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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Sinusitis / January 2007

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I think I have post nasal drip, and I plan on using a Hydro Pulse Irrigator

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TissuePaper - 09 Jan 2007 21:48 GMT
I don't have any sinuses infections, I breathe fine through my nose, and I
don't have a runny nose.  But for the last few years I've had a lump of
mucus in the back of my throat that I try to cough out.

I've just started drinking lots of hot tea, but I'd like to try the
irrigation that I've heard so much about.  This is what I intend on buying,
if I should get something else, please let me know.

-Hydro Pulse Irrigator
-Breathe Ease XL
Susan - 09 Jan 2007 22:24 GMT
> I don't have any sinuses infections, I breathe fine through my nose, and I
> don't have a runny nose.  But for the last few years I've had a lump of
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> irrigation that I've heard so much about.  This is what I intend on buying,
> if I should get something else, please let me know.

Check out the durable looking irrigators at ethicare.com and/or the
WaterPik attachments made of metal, not plastic.  Or try the irrigation
bottle at NeilMed.  If you're not infected, it should do fine.  The
other low cost, effective option is a neti pot.

You don't need the expensive salt mixture, just make your own with some
kosher salt, baking soda and maybe a little xylitol if you want some in
there.  The price of the stuff you mentioned is wildly high.  I make a
lb of saline mixture powder for pennies.

Susan
Murray Grossan - 10 Jan 2007 16:36 GMT
On 1/9/07 2:24 PM, in article 50ij0cF1g40vmU1@mid.individual.net, "Susan"
<nevermind@nomail.com> wrote:

> You don't need the expensive salt mixture, just make your own with some
> kosher salt, baking soda and maybe a little xylitol if you want some in
> there.  The price of the stuff you mentioned is wildly high

You are absolutely correct.The price of the Breathe.ease XL  for nasal spray
is TERRIBLY high!  Why go through the HUGE Budget Breaking expense ? Imagine
how much it costs
14.95 for 190 gms
It takes two grams to make one month's supply of nasal spray.
So you only have 95 months worth of product. GASP that's 16 cents a month !
Who can afford that. That's really highway robbery, taking advantage of the
poor and the lame. And their claim that it has the proper balance of
electrolytes, like the Ringer's solution, again you are perfectly right -
for 16 cents a month you could make it yourself and look at all the money
you would save. Why, why, in about 50 months alone you might have saved a
whole quarter. And If you continue for 200 months you could even possibly
save a whole dollar.
. All you need is a scale, a measuring unit, a sterile place to work,
medical grade products, etc.

2 gms/ month for spray? Yes, you measure two gms in the spoon that is
provided and add to four ounces of water. Add one ounce to the furnished
refillable spray bottle and put the other 3 ounces in the refrigerator. Each
week you change the solution, as there are no potentially irritating
preservatives. Two gms a month into 190  is about 95 months. Of course since
its an enhanced product you probably won't need to continue to use it for
nearly that long anyway.

The writer is right, the price is Wildly High. Yet, is 16 cents a month
really so high? Ain't I worth it?
Susan - 10 Jan 2007 17:00 GMT
> On 1/9/07 2:24 PM, in article 50ij0cF1g40vmU1@mid.individual.net, "Susan"
> <nevermind@nomail.com> wrote:
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> It takes two grams to make one month's supply of nasal spray.
> So you only have 95 months worth of product. GASP that's 16 cents a month !

If you irrigate with it, which is what the OP was asking about, it's
expensive, and unnecessarily so.

> Who can afford that. That's really highway robbery, taking advantage of the
> poor and the lame. And their claim that it has the proper balance of
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> The writer is right, the price is Wildly High. Yet, is 16 cents a month
> really so high? Ain't I worth it?  

What we have here is a clear view of the difference between a seller in
search of profit and a sinusitis sufferer offering mutual self help and
support.

Your sarcasm and disinformation (the OP was discussing irrigation, not
spray) is noted.

Susan
TissuePaper - 15 Jan 2007 17:46 GMT
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> Susan

Thanks for your reply.

From what I've been reading in this groups archives, pulsatile irrigation
works better to restore cilia.  Would the Neilmed bottle w/it's saline
solution stimulate the cilia?

Also, I've read claims that if you use the Hydropulse for a few weeks the
post nasal drip will go away and you won't have to use the machine again (at
least for a while).  Is this the case with the NeilMed/any bottle for
irrigating?

Thanks.
Susan - 15 Jan 2007 17:57 GMT
> Thanks for your reply.
>
> From what I've been reading in this groups archives, pulsatile irrigation
> works better to restore cilia.

That's a claim oft posted by the seller of the irrigator, but not backed
by any objective science demonstrating it in comparison to any other method.

If it did that, perhaps those of us here with chronic infections
wouldn't be.

 Would the Neilmed bottle w/it's saline
> solution stimulate the cilia?

Possibly, but who knows, until we see comparison studies?

> Also, I've read claims that if you use the Hydropulse for a few weeks the
> post nasal drip will go away and you won't have to use the machine again (at
> least for a while).  Is this the case with the NeilMed/any bottle for
> irrigating?

If you're not infected, just suffering thickened secretions and PND,
your best bets are to drink lots of water to thin the secretions (this
really works!), irrigate with either a spray bottle or other device
(irrigator, neti pot, etc) and have any allergies treated with
aggressive (3 mos) sensitization schedule.  Remove allergens from your
environment, especially your bedroom and workspace.  Put
barriers/allergen encasements on all bedding.

Those claims you cite are made by the seller, no one here has had PND or
 sinusitis go away for good as a result of using any device, that I'm
aware of.

Susan

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