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Derek Lawler - 05 Nov 2006 00:02 GMT
My wife is in the hospital after several days of trying to call attention to
an inflamed, hard lump in the corner of her left eye.  She has had headaches
for years following sinus surgery about seven years ago.  Nobody seemed to
know what to do about it, including the surgeon that did the work twice on
her sinuses.
Now it has become a very serious matter.  We don't have the results yet of
the cat scan and on the weekend all the specialists are away.  She has to
endure the pain and pressure till Monday apparently and is being given
morphine.
The ophthalmologist that called attention to the seriousness of it mentioned
lancing this mucocele after treating with antibiotics.
Has anyone any experience with this type of  lesion?

Derek
Roy - 05 Nov 2006 01:10 GMT
> My wife is in the hospital after several days of trying to call attention to
> an inflamed, hard lump in the corner of her left eye.  She has had headaches
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> lancing this mucocele after treating with antibiotics.
> Has anyone any experience with this type of  lesion?

You might want to have an MRI done, also.
I pray that God will heal your wife.

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RB
Derek Lawler - 05 Nov 2006 02:24 GMT
Thanks RB for your well wishes.  I think an MRI was already done but I can't
get anyone to discuss the results with me until Monday.  When I went to
visit earlier she seemed to feel better but got a 2mg injection of morphine
and was almost asleep when I left.
If the ER doctor had known what it was on Wednesday when she first went in
we would have been ahead on Tx. He called it conjunctivitis and Rx'd Cipro
eyedrops.

Derek
Steven L. - 05 Nov 2006 03:16 GMT
> My wife is in the hospital after several days of trying to call attention to
> an inflamed, hard lump in the corner of her left eye.  She has had headaches
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> lancing this mucocele after treating with antibiotics.
> Has anyone any experience with this type of  lesion?

Yes, we've had people on this newsgroup with mucoceles.  Nasty little
bastards, if you excuse my language.  I had a mucocele that had to be
popped, but it never got as bad as what your wife is going thru.  But
others did:

http://tinyurl.com/yymgpf

When the mucocele starts to invade the orbit of the eye, or even worse,
abscess into the brain, it's bad news.  You need to find a good ENT
surgeon--fast.

There's plenty of info on the Internet about sinus mucoceles.  Just
Google for
sinus mucocele
and you'll get stuff.

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Derek Lawler - 05 Nov 2006 03:29 GMT
Thanks, Steven.  I have been looking at a lot of information and diagrams of
sinuses from Google.  Now how can I get an ENT to do emergency surgery on
Sunday?  This has me really worried as the infection might move upwards
through the ethmoid sinus. She has already been given drip IV antibiotics
and they say her white count it marginal. Other than infection what else
could happen?
I also noticed that contrary to everything I have been told by doctors, it
IS possible to clean out the nasolacrymal duct using stents. For years my
tears have flowed over my cheeks and not into my nasal cavity the way they
normally should and this could have been corrected by now.
Derek
kathywb2001@yahoo.com - 05 Nov 2006 07:25 GMT
> Thanks, Steven.  I have been looking at a lot of information and diagrams of
> sinuses from Google.  Now how can I get an ENT to do emergency surgery on
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> normally should and this could have been corrected by now.
> Derek

I've read a little bit about mucoceles;  don't know that much about
them, but I agreed this does require urgent surgical intervention.  If
you can't get emergyency surgery today, find out what kind of
antibitoics she his receiving.  Make sure that she is on something
broad specturm that would cover ANY infectious agent that could go to
her brain, and it has to be something that has good CNS and bone
penetration.   Don't just trust what the ER doctor has put her on.
When they first put my mother in the hosital at the end of June, the
first thing they did was give her Rocephin and she is allergic to
cephalosporins and had a bad reacton, even though it was clearly
written that she was allergic to them.  Then the 3rd time she was
admitted, they were about to give it to her again, just seconds before
I arrived and stopped them.  I woulnd't want to give any advice on what
antibitotics would be best; look up the one she is on and see what kind
of coverage it has.  Keep track of all of her blood work, especially
WBC and ESR.    You might want to keep in mind the possibility of a
fungal pathogen also.

Have they been able to get any kind of culture and sensitivities?  Have
they done a spinal tap?  I'm not sure the later would be in order, but
would be a consideraton if she starts running a high fever or blood
work becomes worse.  The benefits have to outweigh the risks.

Good luck!!
Kathyw
Steven L. - 05 Nov 2006 15:05 GMT
> Thanks, Steven.  I have been looking at a lot of information and diagrams of
> sinuses from Google.  Now how can I get an ENT to do emergency surgery on
> Sunday?  

If the ER doctors on call think it's an emergency, they'll help you get
an ENT.  If not, hopefully she can hang in there till Monday.

What IV antibiotic is your wife on?  I think IV Cipro might be a decent
choice here.  Quinolones have broad coverage, and thanks to the
terrorist threat, just about every hospital stocks IV Cipro these days.
 (If the infection continues to get worse, then maybe they should use
the "last resort" IV vancomycin.)

I agree with kathywb2001 about an MRI scan.  But I can't understand how
even a CT scan could have missed a mucocele this big as to cause all
this trouble. When did your wife have her last CT scan?

> This has me really worried as the infection might move upwards
> through the ethmoid sinus. She has already been given drip IV antibiotics
> and they say her white count it marginal. Other than infection what else
> could happen?

Blindness in that eye, if the mucocele and associated infection
continues to invade the orbit of the eye.

Of course, the surgery now has a significant risk of blindness too,
since they're going to be operating so close to the eye and its optic
nerve.  So like I said, it's vital that you find a really experienced
ENT who can do this properly.  It's going to be trickier than the usual
removal of polyps and things that most ENTs routinely do for sinus problems.

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Derek Lawler - 06 Nov 2006 02:27 GMT
Looks like she'll be waiting till Monday.
She has been getting Cleocin Phosphate, Clindamycin injection, 900mg/50mL as
a drip and percoset for pain.
They have the images from CT scan and MIR but radiologist won't read them
till Monday am.
The red, inflamed mucocele has bulged out a bit more which has me very
anxious to get this resolved.
There are some allegedly very good ocular surgeons in the area but her HMO
(Vista) might not cover some of them.
I talked to her ophthalmologist this afternoon and he gave me some names of
doctors he would recommend.

Derek
Steven L. - 06 Nov 2006 13:41 GMT
> Looks like she'll be waiting till Monday.
> She has been getting Cleocin Phosphate, Clindamycin injection, 900mg/50mL as
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> There are some allegedly very good ocular surgeons in the area but her HMO
> (Vista) might not cover some of them.

Right now, I wouldn't worry about the cost.  If nothing else, the
surgery is deductible on your income tax.

There are just times in your life when you have to use your VISA card,
the one "insurance" card that every physician accepts.

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