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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Sinusitis / September 2006How is the HydroMed kit
I'm thinking of just paying the $100 and ordering it. Does it work well?? Mel > I'm thinking of just paying the $100 and ordering it. > > Does it work well?? > > Mel It works well, for me, and I've had no problems with my unit. My sister's has died twice, and warranty service has been really unfortunate the second time around. Neti pots are reported by others to work very well, as has the waterpik attacment you can buy for about $30 I think. Some folks use NeilMed bottles, but I hated it, it wasn't effective for me and I don't recommend it. Susan National Allergy Supply is selling it for $80 for the "special" this month. They're on the web. Judy > x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Susan > x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Susan To me the hydromed isn't worth the money. I believe the opposite of the claim that cilia, for whatever reason, cease to function properly and then you develop chronic sinusitis; then the cilia are reactivated by this device and cure the chronic sinusitis. More than likely the case is that the cilia cannot function because of some underlying problem. No amount of cilia stimulation is going to cure your chronic sinusitis. If anyone has ever bought one of these and has been cured, I would bet that they would have cured regardless. None of the truly chronic people here in this group who own one of these devices has been cured by it. The only benefit of this device is that it may, in some cases, vibrate loose some mucus and flush it out. ...and yes I own one. I've been meaning to reply: I completely agree with everything you wrote. There has been some research about how saline does "wake up" or stimulate cilia, but to my knowledge, no delivery system has been shown to be the essential delivery method. My understanding of the utility of irrigation is that some noses don't self-cleanse well, and irrigation removes crusts, excess mucous, debris and can stimulate ciliary action. The belief in the pulsatile delivery system vs. all other methods seems to be anedectodal. I have seen people with chronic sinusitis benefit from irrigation, some to the point of feeling "cured", but it was any form of irrigation that helped. I think you made some excellent points. Judy > > x-no-archive: yes > > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > ...and yes I own one. I have used the Nielmed bottle for years and switched to the Hydromed last fall. I have found that I prefer it to the nielmed bottle and I appears to work better also. > I've been meaning to reply: I completely agree with everything you > wrote. There has been some research about how saline does "wake up" or [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > > > > ...and yes I own one. > x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Some folks use NeilMed bottles, but I hated it, it wasn't effective for > me and I don't recommend it. I use both Hydromed and NielMed. There are three reasons why I still use NielMed on occasion, even though I know it's not as effective: 1. NeilMed is quieter. The walls in my apartment building seem to be made out of paper; my neighbors even complain about the noise from my coughing. So NielMed is best at night so I don't disturb my neighbors. 2. Neilmed is more convenient on travel. You can irrigate even in a moving airplane (though with the new restrictions on carry-on luggage, that's not as easy as it used to be). 3. NeilMed is a backup system if we have an electrical power outage (and those happen all too frequently). We once lost electrical power for nearly 24 hours, but NeilMed was still working. :-)  SignatureSteven D. Litvintchouk Email: sdlitvin@earthlinkNOSPAM.net Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me. Steven, I also use the hydromed for home and Neilmed for travel. With the Neilmed, do you pump gently or should the solution go up more forcefully? With the gentle pumping, I feel as if the only happening is a cleaning of the lower part of my nose. > > x-no-archive: yes > > [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > Email: sdlitvin@earthlinkNOSPAM.net > Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me. > Steven, I also use the hydromed for home and Neilmed for travel. With > the Neilmed, do you pump gently or should the solution go up more > forcefully? With the gentle pumping, I feel as if the only happening > is a cleaning of the lower part of my nose. EXACTLY. And with a stronger squeeze, I feel like I'm drowning, and it still doesn't work for me. Better than nothing, but not good enough. Susan i found that the NeilMed worked best for me following my first surgery when i had tons of scabbing and clotted material to get out. i would squeeze the bottle as hard as i could and sometimes thought that i wanted to shoot a garden hose up my nose. following this when i was more concerned with PND i used the neti pot and the hydro pulse. i used the hydro pulse because many within this group have spoken of the benenfit of the "pulsatile" irrigation. it was easy and comfortable to use but i always felt it was too mild and didnt really reach far enough --i had it at its highest setting. i always followed the hydropulse with the neti pot. after my hydropulse unit started leaking and because i had failed to maintain it properly with frequent cleanings, i went with and continue today with the neti pot. > I use both Hydromed and NielMed. There are three reasons why I still > use NielMed on occasion, even though I know it's not as effective: > > 1. NeilMed is quieter. The walls in my apartment building seem to be > made out of paper; my neighbors even complain about the noise from my > coughing. So NielMed is best at night so I don't disturb my neighbors. It's definitely quieter. > 2. Neilmed is more convenient on travel. You can irrigate even in a > moving airplane (though with the new restrictions on carry-on luggage, > that's not as easy as it used to be). It would be more convenient for travel if it didn't allow my symptoms to return. I hate having to pack up my irrigator to take with me. That's why I plan to get a neti pot. > 3. NeilMed is a backup system if we have an electrical power outage > (and those happen all too frequently). We once lost electrical power > for nearly 24 hours, but NeilMed was still working. :-) So is a neti pot. Maybe I'm a klutz, but I find the NeilMed feels like I'm drowning, I get uneven force/stream, etc... I think a neti pot (or I hope it will) will feel more like a controlled, even stream. Susan Susan, I primarily use the Neti pot, but will use the NeilMed if I feel like I'm fighting off something--it seems like the increased pressure can irrigate some stuff out. I give it such a hard squeeze that I use about half on each side, then there's about a quarter of a bottle left, and it comes out as air, and a water mix that doesn't seem like a good idea. I'll only use it occasionally. The neti is consistent, the flow is constant and the pressure low. I used a waterpik for years, but never aggressively cleaned the tubing, and was pretty sick during that time. Judy > x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Susan > Susan, > I primarily use the Neti pot, but will use the NeilMed if I feel like [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > idea. I'll only use it occasionally. The neti is consistent, the flow > is constant and the pressure low. What you describe is what I hate about NeilMed. > I used a waterpik for years, but never aggressively cleaned the > tubing, and was pretty sick during that time. Yikes. I clean more often than recommended, alternating vinegar solution with bleach solution. Susan I do notice that Dr. Grossan has posted on other threads recently, but has remained silent on this one, which directly addresses his device. Judy > x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Susan > I do notice that Dr. Grossan has posted on other threads recently, but > has remained silent on this one, which directly addresses his device. Really? I haven't seen a post from him in a very long time. Susan He posted yesterday re: plane travel and his nasal gel. Judy > x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Susan > He posted yesterday re: plane travel and his nasal gel. > Judy Ah, so he did. Intereseting. Susan On 9/12/06 1:08 PM, in article 4moie1F6qm2tU1@individual.net, "Susan" <nevermind@nomail.com> wrote: > x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Susan Glad to know I was missed. Two weeks in Russia automatically keeps you out of the internet. So I go to the internet café. They won't take dollars or visa. So I begged for rubles and got some. So I get AOL and its in Russian. So I finally am in, but it will only accept two numbers of my 8 number password. When I try to fix it, I get a message in Russian. Finally I got some help and did get in, managed to get off one message to my family and then it crashed. By that time no one would give me more ruble and besides the boat was leaving. . On 9/12/06 8:38 AM, in article 1158075502.381561.93320@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com, "judy.n" > I do notice that Dr. Grossan has posted on other threads recently, but > has remained silent on this one, which directly addresses his device. > Judy >> x-no-archive: yes Do you suppose that being in Russia for two weeks without internet might have something to do with that? > Do you suppose that being in Russia for two weeks without internet might > have something to do with that? Yes, I assumed it meant that you were away. Hope you enjoyed your trip! Susan |
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