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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Sinusitis / September 2006Allergy shots = getting well?
Hi folks, It's been about 5-6 weeks since I started getting allergy shots (2x - 2x a week). Since then, I haven't hardly been congested, and I have only irrigated a few days in a row when I thought something was coming on (but didn't). The initial shots were pretty dilute, and I just *graduated* to a more potent serum. But...could I be getting better in this short period? I have to say I never was one for awful congestion. My problems, as noted here before, were more in the area of constant infections, only then helped out by a couple of 30 day doses of Levaquin at one time, and Biaxin XL at another. I'm hoping this is long-term. I pretty much hope for the best, and prepare for the worst. As someone once said, your problems get better when you aren't constantly reminded of them. So being mostly symptom-free sure is nice for a change. I read some article that said that early response to allergy shots is a great indication that they'll work for you. The first vials are so dilute, but they still give you local reactions... For me, allergy shots have been crucial. I've tried to stop them, but end up back on them. Over the years, my mix has changed as my skin testing has showed that the shots worked against specific allergens. Currently, it's molds and dander. It's been trees, grass, weeds, dust mites in the past. I don't think I'll ever stop. The studies say that if you get to maintenance and continue for three years, the benefit lasts for at least a year after stopping. I figure, why not just keep getting them if they work. Isn't it great when something actually makes you feel better? Judy > Hi folks, > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > when you aren't constantly reminded of them. So being mostly > symptom-free sure is nice for a change. I'm glad they work for you two. They don't for me. I took them both as a teenager, and later again as an adult, both times for years, and can't say they helped me at all. I've read other reports from people, and talked to others, who said they didn't work for them. So--it's good to hear that they actually help some people. I'm going to see an allergist today (not the one I saw a couple weeks ago, and he's not on my HMO plan) whom I saw a couple years ago, and like with others, didn't help me much. This time I'm bringing articles and will suggest trying the long-term macrolide therapy, and change my Nexium dosage to twice per day (both discussed in other threads). I hope something will work. >I read some article that said that early response to allergy shots is a > great indication that they'll work for you. The first vials are so [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] >> when you aren't constantly reminded of them. So being mostly >> symptom-free sure is nice for a change. Chiropractors are known for having a "knack" for reducing or even eliminating allergies, especially for those people who allergy shots and meds don't work... the problem is not the chemical make-up in your blood stream (what you're trying to change with meds and shots....) but quite probably what is called a subluxation in your upper cervical region... the medula of the brain extends down into the foramen of the first and second vertebra in the spinal column of your neck. This is what controls your immune system and consequently may lead to frequent allergic reactions... check out local Chiropractic offices and call them to see if they "treat allergy sufferers"... if they respond enthusiastically "Yes", then you've found a Doctor that really knows what he or she is doing and can almost definetly help for a fraction of the cost of meds and trips to the allergists.... It's worth a shot... pardon the pun. (I was allergic to my cat -- sinus infections all the time, swelling in eyes and around face, red bumps on my arms when I pet her... -- since I've been working for a Chiropractic Doctor (D.C.) for 4 1/2 years, I haven't had one sinus infection or what could be called any form of allergic reaction to my cat.) IT WORKS WHETHER YOU BELIEVE IN IT OR NOT! this is the most important thing to remember! P.S.: Medical doctors are generally uneducated as far as how Chiropractic works and the efficacy of spinal manipulation, so asking your MD may be futile. Good luck! KW ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > I'm glad they work for you two. > [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > >> when you aren't constantly reminded of them. So being mostly > >> symptom-free sure is nice for a change. > Chiropractors are known for having a "knack" for reducing or even > eliminating allergies, especially for those people who allergy shots [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Good luck! KW Hello, Do Chiropractic Doctors do a lot of x-rays of the spine before they do any treatment? Thanks J. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > I'm glad they work for you two. [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > > >> when you aren't constantly reminded of them. So being mostly > > >> symptom-free sure is nice for a change. > Chiropractors are known for having a "knack" for reducing or even > eliminating allergies, especially for those people who allergy shots [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > what he or she is doing and can almost definetly help for a fraction of > the cost of meds and trips to the allergists.... Ha Ha Ha! I would change the last sentence to: >check out local Chiropractic offices and call > them to see if they "treat allergy sufferers"... if they respond > enthusiastically "Yes", then you've found a........ QUACK!!!! I would change the first sentence to: > Chiropractors are known for having a "knack" for......... saying they can cure all ailments with spinal manipulation, which is pure BS, snake oil, quackery. There is absolutely no medical evidence to prove what you wrote here. It is complete hogwash! Name one independent medical study that proves that a "subluxation" in the upper cervical region causes allergy symptoms, and that the first and second vertebrae in your neck "control your immune system". Cite scientific references for this please, not chiropractic propaganda. It is amazing how gullible human beings are, that many fall for this kind of crap. Well, I guess it's because we who suffer from chronic diseases that are not easily "cured" are desperate for some relief from our symptoms, and therefore become easy "marks" for any snake oil vendor, any product or procedure that promises to help us. Buyer beware! >> Chiropractors are known for having a "knack" for reducing or even >> eliminating allergies, especially for those people who allergy shots [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > >Buyer beware! I agree. I used to go to a chiro for a year or so because of my bad back and neck. I felt a little better, although not as good as what I could do on my own with exercise, losing weight, etc. Things started going downhill when I called to say I couldn't make my appt. because I was coming down with something. The chiro said that was the time to come in, saying some of the things Chiro Manager posted above. A red light went off. After all, I'd been to see him sick before and the effect was negligible at best. But the kicker was when he started a subtle pitch to have my newborn daughter brought in, saying he adjusts infants starting at 3 weeks. That is one of the scariest things I've ever been told and I believe that was the last treatment I ever had from him. I generally go with what my GP (an internal medicine doctor) says about chiros. He said they're ok for the low back, and will make you feel better, but you have to keep going for treatments. The second thing he said is not to have my upper cervical area *adjusted* because it's more likely to receive additional injury from adjustment. Sorry if I ran off topic, but if somebody's going to bring up a treatment for sinusitis that's unproven, and could cause additional problems, I can't be silent. Rick Rick I agree with you. For years I wouldn't deal with chiropractors, because we have a fundamental disagreement about disease: does it all originate from misalignment of the spine and can be treated by manipulation, or is disease caused by many other factors? I understand there are several philopsophical schools in chiropractic, but I just couldn't deal with the differences in what we believed. Then, I began to work with some great DO's whose manipulations did help muskulosketal problems. Then, my husband who's a dentist and has chronic mid-back pain due to his work, was referred to one by a massage therapist and a few manipulations were helpful--but no permanent fix. Then, my ENT referred me to one he respected when I developed vertigo (after I'd seen the ENT, and the neuro-otologist.) This chiropractor was very professional, and his goal was to gently strengthen my neck to minimize any cervical component of my vertigo, but the exercises caused radicular pain down my arm, and the very gentle cervical manipulations weren't helpful. However, my older daughter took a nasty fall off her horse and has had back pain for years. She saw the top back surgeon in our state, got an MRI, did PT: no real benefit. The chiropractor's manipulations weren't very helpful, but his PT concentrated on her facet joints, and that was helpful. So, I agree with you. They can be helpful in some cases of back pain. There was a recent article comparing standard PT to yoga for back pain, and yoga won. I downloaded the poses, and most were very similar to the PT done by the chiropractor for my daughter: the bridge, spinal twists. Judy > >> Chiropractors are known for having a "knack" for reducing or even > >> eliminating allergies, especially for those people who allergy shots [quoted text clipped - 69 lines] > > Rick > I'm glad they work for you two. > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > to twice per day (both discussed in other threads). I hope something will > work. The shots did not work for me, either. I took shots for 3 years, then a few years later, I had shots for 5 more years. Unfortunately, they did nothing for me. I may get tested again, we'll see. Becca |
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