My ENT says this stuff is VERY DANGEROUS tol the mucosal lining of one's
nasal passages....BE CAREFUL!!
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> I just ran it by my husband who is a dentist, and he feels that
> peroxide burns and is not beneficial as a mouth rinse. I've heard for
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> >
> > Susan
> I just ran it by my husband who is a dentist, and he feels that
> peroxide burns and is not beneficial as a mouth rinse.
About 20 years ago I told my dentist I was using peroxide and
he said that it can cause cancer. He also said my only hope
was to have gum surgery. I ignored him and now every time
I go in for a yearly checkup he tells everyone in the office
that I'm his greatest success story. I'm sixty years old now
and my gums are perfect and there is no cancer.
My GP said he had gum surgery and it didn't work. When I
suggested that he floss and use peroxide, he said that would
be too much trouble.
> I've heard for
> years that it is damaging to healing tissue and shouldn't be used on
> wounds.
Peroxide is good for infected tissue and small cuts, but it's
not very effective on large open wounds.
> I do use it to disinfect toothbrushes though,
I have done this for years.
> and when my daughter
> wore contacts, the cleansing solution was peroxide, but it completely
> disappated after 6-8 hours and her optometrist cautioned her that if
> she took them out of solution too soon, it would burn her eyes.
> So, the stuff has some value, but it's tough on healing wounds and
> mucous membranes.
I guess tough means it stings.
Try putting peroxide on your hands and rubbing it in. If you
have any infections it will only burn the areas that are infected.
The same is true with gum and sinus tissues.
> > > 9. Tilt your head back and spray into nostrils with your 50/50
> > > mixture whenever you have a cold, or plugged sinuses. It will
> > > bubble and help to kill the bacteria. Hold for a few minutes
> > > then blow your nose into a tissue.
> >
> > You had me til this one, OUCH, you're outta your effing mind!
When I get a sinus infection that doesn't heal in a couple of
weeks I use a peroxide spray, and I haven't had to use antibiotics
for a sinus infection in over ten years. However I did take
antibiotics for ear infections a few years ago and the resulting
systemic yeast infections almost killed me. Most alternative
doctors don't recommend it, but what finally worked was drinking
a glass of vinegar and water about an hour before meals. Now I
just eat a little sour kraut every day.
> > Much less than that still burns intolerably and causes swelling.
The burning and swelling is actually a good thing, because not
only does it kill bacteria, it also causes the immune system to
attack the diseased tissue.
I have also noticed that when your body starts to heal itself,
it can seem like you are getting worse. Most people will probably
quit using whatever is helping them at this point. For instance,
when I started using vinegar I also started to get infections
one after another on various parts of my body for no apparent
reason. But I eventually realized what was happening is that
my body was just slowly getting rid of numerous low grade
infections that had accumulated over the years.
There are a lot of things you can do. One that is not mentioned
here is mucous producing foods and foods that produce sticky mucous.
Some examples: white and french breads, cooked cereals, cheese,
eggs, etc. The best diet for someone with infections seems to be
a high protein diet of mostly meat, fish, vegetables and a small
amount of whole grain bread and cereals. Small amounts of fruit
are probably okay, but anything sweet can be a problem for people
with yeast infections. The paleolithic diet sounds pretty good,
but is probably a little too strict for most people. Of course,
there are always exceptions. Some people seem to be able to eat
anything and stay healthy, but you won't find those people here.
Susan - 14 Aug 2006 23:04 GMT
> The burning and swelling is actually a good thing, because not
> only does it kill bacteria, it also causes the immune system to
> attack the diseased tissue.
The burning and swelling seem to mean that my tissues have been
exposed to a caustic substance.
I use a lesser amount that still stings, but doesn't cause swelling that
keeps me from breathing through my nose!
> There are a lot of things you can do. One that is not mentioned
> here is mucous producing foods and foods that produce sticky mucous.
> Some examples: white and french breads, cooked cereals, cheese,
> eggs, etc.
Those aren't mucus producing foods, they're glycemic foods. They raise
blood glucose to unhealthy levels that suppress immunity and feed
pathogens, including yeast. I take double doses of antibiotics with no
yeast flareups because I manage my bg so tightly.
The best diet for someone with infections seems to be
> a high protein diet of mostly meat, fish, vegetables and a small
> amount of whole grain bread and cereals. Small amounts of fruit
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> there are always exceptions. Some people seem to be able to eat
> anything and stay healthy, but you won't find those people here.
The best diet for humans is proteins, healthy fats and lots of veggies.
That's what I eat.
Susan
Don Brady - 15 Aug 2006 02:53 GMT
>> I just ran it by my husband who is a dentist, and he feels that
>> peroxide burns and is not beneficial as a mouth rinse.
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>suggested that he floss and use peroxide, he said that would
>be too much trouble.
Larry,
Thanks for tips.
How do you use it on the gums?
Brush with it?
Thanks,
Don
Larry Fletcher - 15 Aug 2006 16:32 GMT
> >> I just ran it by my husband who is a dentist, and he feels that
> >> peroxide burns and is not beneficial as a mouth rinse.
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> >suggested that he floss and use peroxide, he said that would
> >be too much trouble.
> Thanks for tips.
> How do you use it on the gums?
I use a small amount full-strength like regular mouthwash and
just keep it in until the foaming starts to subside. On the
bottle it says to use 50% water, but then you would probably
end up using more.
In the first post I forgot to mention that when I have my teeth
professionally cleaned there is almost no plaque. It gets to be
kind of embarrassing, so occasionally I skip the cleaning for
a year or two. Lately I've started to wonder if I will ever
need to have my teeth professionally cleaned again.
> Brush with it?
I brush without toothpaste, then floss or stimudent and rinse
with peroxide, but it probably wouldn't hurt anything if you
used toothpaste first. (You don't want to get peroxide on
your clothes, but if you do, just delete it with water.)
About the time I started using peroxide there was an article
by a doctor that said to brush with a combination of baking
soda and peroxide to cure gum disease, but I don't remember
how often or the exact details. He claimed that no germs
could survive this mixture (mixed like a paste). Usually I
just brush with baking soda once a month, but a couple of days
ago I tried this mixture. I used my finger to put it between my
teeth and then used a stimudent (drugstore toothpick) to clean
between the teeth, and then brushed. Now my teeth feel like
they were cleaned at a dentists office. (By the way, don't put
baking soda and peroxide in a bottle because it will eventually
explode.)
After writing this I found a copy of the article. It was written
in 1980 by Shirley Elder in magazine called Modern Maturity. The
article is about Dr. Paul H. Keyes, a government scientist that had
been working on this for 25 years. It was also written for older
people with serious gum disease and it's a little more complicated
than I described. The article says you are supposed to use salt,
baking soda and hydrogen peroxide and work the dry paste into the
gums at the tooth line with a stimudent once a day. No doubt this
method would speed up the healing, but just using peroxide as a
mouthwash would probably work for most people and it's a lot easier.
I also found some more information by searching Google for Dr. Paul
Keyes, but so far I haven't seen anything as good and as easy to
understand as the article I have.
Don Brady - 16 Aug 2006 03:56 GMT
Excellent - thanks Larry.