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Buying Distilled Water
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Steven L. - 06 May 2006 15:59 GMT I would like to try irrigating with distilled water (who knows if the tap water is contaminated in my area). But I do a lot of irrigating--just one irrigation uses most of a quart of water, and I irrigate several times a day at least. Where do people who do nasal irrigation buy large quantities of distilled water from?
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Susan - 06 May 2006 16:04 GMT > I would like to try irrigating with distilled water (who knows if the > tap water is contaminated in my area). But I do a lot of > irrigating--just one irrigation uses most of a quart of water, and I > irrigate several times a day at least. Where do people who do nasal > irrigation buy large quantities of distilled water from? If I belonged to a warehouse club, I'd try to get it there by the case. I just buy it, for about $1 and pennies per gallon, at my supermarket.
Susan
Steven L. - 07 May 2006 00:01 GMT > x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > If I belonged to a warehouse club, I'd try to get it there by the case. > I just buy it, for about $1 and pennies per gallon, at my supermarket. I have never seen distilled water sold at any supermarket here in the Northeast. What supermarket do you shop at and where is it located?
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Susan - 07 May 2006 00:51 GMT > I have never seen distilled water sold at any supermarket here in the > Northeast. What supermarket do you shop at and where is it located? I've never been to one in the NE (NY) that doesn't have it. In my current grocery, it's hard to see it because it (Poland Spring and Stop n Shop brands) are with the bottled drinking water. Often, it can be found with laundry stuff, because it's what you use in steam irons. Pharmacies always have it, too.
Susan
Steven L. - 07 May 2006 01:07 GMT > x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > current grocery, it's hard to see it because it (Poland Spring and Stop > n Shop brands) are with the bottled drinking water. I'm sorry to tell you this, but Poland Spring and Stop & Stop are not distilled water. Distilled water has been steam-distilled to remove all minerals, meaning it has zero taste. Nobody would drink it.
Distilled water is not drinking water. I think you may be confusing the term "distilled water" with whatever bottling and filtration process Poland Spring uses.
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Susan - 07 May 2006 01:14 GMT > I'm sorry to tell you this, but Poland Spring and Stop & Stop are not > distilled water. Distilled water has been steam-distilled to remove all > minerals, meaning it has zero taste. Nobody would drink it. Steven, I have it in my hand. They both make *distilled water*, labeled "distilled." I know the effing difference between spring and distilled. It's on the top shelf in my Stop n Shop, with barely noticeably different labels than the spring water. You may have just passed it by.
Trust me on this.
> Distilled water is not drinking water. I think you may be confusing the > term "distilled water" with whatever bottling and filtration process > Poland Spring uses. I must sound a lot stupider than I thought.
Sheesh.
Susan
Susan - 07 May 2006 01:17 GMT Scroll down to where it says in bold "varieties."
http://www.nestle-watersna.com/Menu/OurBrands/PolandSpring/Poland+Spring+Package +Sizes+and+Varieties.htm
And once again, SHEEEEEEEESH.
Susan
Steven L. - 08 May 2006 00:24 GMT > x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Trust me on this. I do trust you. And the next time I'm in the supermarket, I will survey all the bottled water they have--every shelf--and see if I can find anything with the word "distilled" on the label.
There's a Stop & Shop in the next town, but it's not one of the big Super Stop & Shops, just a small one. I'll check there too, even though that's not the supermarket I usually shop at.
Thanks for the tip.
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Susan - 08 May 2006 01:03 GMT > I do trust you. And Shirley, too, I hope!
> And the next time I'm in the supermarket, I will survey all the bottled > water they have--every shelf--and see if I can find anything with the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Thanks for the tip. Sure thing. Failing that, drugstores always have it, usually on the bottom shelf somewhere out of sight.
Susan
Steven L. - 08 May 2006 18:05 GMT > x-no-archive: yes > >> Thanks for the tip. > > Sure thing. Failing that, drugstores always have it, usually on the > bottom shelf somewhere out of sight. I knew that, but I was hoping to find it cheaper elsewhere.
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Susan - 08 May 2006 18:36 GMT >> x-no-archive: yes >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > I knew that, but I was hoping to find it cheaper elsewhere. Only a warehouse club, supermarket or a Walmart type place would be cheaper, I think.
Susan
Steven L. - 09 May 2006 04:30 GMT > x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Only a warehouse club, supermarket or a Walmart type place would be > cheaper, I think. Well, you were right! I found it in the big Hannaford supermarket. In the water aisle, it was at the extreme left on the top shelf, which is probably why I never spotted it. But it was there!
If I could ask you about the mechanics: Do you mix the saline in the Waterpik/HydroPulse container, then warm the solution in the microwave? If so, how do you keep the container from touching the bottom of the microwave, which is full of germs?
Just like to know what steps you go thru, exactly.
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Susan - 09 May 2006 13:25 GMT > Well, you were right! Natch. :-)
I found it in the big Hannaford supermarket. In
> the water aisle, it was at the extreme left on the top shelf, which is > probably why I never spotted it. But it was there! See?? Toldja.
> If I could ask you about the mechanics: Do you mix the saline in the > Waterpik/HydroPulse container, then warm the solution in the microwave? I dump 8-10 tsp. (or the larger blue half of the breathease scooper) into the bottle, shake it, and keep it in the bathroom for use. I don't warm it now that I'm not using tap water because running up and down stairs to do so was making me less inclined to irrigate often enough, with bad results. I've gotten used to cool water. I just pour it from the jug into the irrigator container. You have to remove the container for good aim when the jug is very full.
> If so, how do you keep the container from touching the bottom of the > microwave, which is full of germs? When I nuked, I used a pyrex cup in the microwave. I'm assuming any germs in their got nuked, too, since it'll sterilize a kitchen sponge in 30 seconds. Never boil liquid in the microwave; it really *does* explode sometimes, just get it hot but not boiling, if you use that method.
> Just like to know what steps you go thru, exactly. Put salt in jug, shake, use in irrigator. I keep the jug in the bathroom.
Good luck!
Susan
august - 09 May 2006 19:57 GMT > Well, you were right! I found it in the big Hannaford supermarket. In > the water aisle, it was at the extreme left on the top shelf, which is [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Just like to know what steps you go thru, exactly.
> Steven D. Litvintchouk > Email: sdlitvin@earthlinkNOSPAM.net > Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me. I use a clean one teaspoon measuring spoon and add 6 level tsp of pickling salt and 2 tsp. of baking soda to one gallon distilled water, replace lid, shake up thoroughly and I'm ready to go. Your saline preference might differ from mine. I don't heat the water as I've had better luck irrigating with room temp. saline than with heated saline. If I were to want heated, I'd use a pyrex measuring cup and microwave heat one rinse worth of saline at a time. AW
Susan - 09 May 2006 20:34 GMT > I use a clean one teaspoon measuring spoon and add 6 level tsp of pickling > salt and 2 tsp. of baking soda to one gallon distilled water, replace lid, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > a pyrex measuring cup and microwave heat one rinse worth of saline at a > time. AW I forgot to mention my solution ingredients earlier.
I nearly fill a pint container from chinese takeout (after it's been through the dishwasher!) will kosher salt. I add a TBS or so of NuSalt (calcium chloride)salt substitute, a tsp or so of baking soda and a tsp or so of xylitol (optional).
Mix well. I use 8-10 tsp of this mixture to a gallon of distilled water.
Ditto re: the microwaving. During severe congestion or colds, I've found the warm water to be more effective at clearing stuff out.
Susan
august - 10 May 2006 00:10 GMT > x-no-archive: yes
> I forgot to mention my solution ingredients earlier. > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Susan Where do you find the xylitol? I've looked everywhere I thought they might sell it with no luck.
AW
Susan - 10 May 2006 00:15 GMT > Where do you find the xylitol? I've looked everywhere I thought they might > sell it with no luck. > > AW I buy it now in the baking section of a local health food grocery. In the past, I bought it at xylitolnow.com in bulk (I bake with xylitol or erythritol) years ago. You can buy smaller packages probably at netrition.com.
Susan
august - 10 May 2006 20:02 GMT > x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Susan I've been looking in the bulk foods in with the various sugars. no luck. I'll try the packaged sugar aisle and if they don't have any there I'll order some. Thanks for the netrition link. AW
Susan - 10 May 2006 20:52 GMT >>x-no-archive: yes >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > I'll try the packaged sugar aisle and if they don't have any there I'll > order some. Thanks for the netrition link. AW The brand I buy is NOW.
Susan
august - 12 May 2006 08:07 GMT august wrote:
>>>>Where do you find the xylitol? I've looked everywhere I thought they >>>>might sell it with no luck.
> The brand I buy is NOW. > > Susan Found the xylitol today in the vitamin section at Wild Oats. It was even on sale. However they didn't have the salt substitute, so that's next on my shopping list. AW
Susan - 12 May 2006 13:11 GMT > Found the xylitol today in the vitamin section at Wild Oats. It was even on > sale. However they didn't have the salt substitute, so that's next on my > shopping list. AW NuSalt should be in just about any regular supermarket. If it has anti caking agents, they haven't bothered me in the quantities I use it. Don't buy Morton's Lite though; I think it's half sodium chloride.
Susan
Murray Grossan - 10 May 2006 03:53 GMT On 5/9/06 11:57 AM, in article sKKdnTmzffNheP3ZRVn-tg@comcast.com, "august"
>> Well, you were right! I found it in the big Hannaford supermarket. In >> the water aisle, it was at the extreme left on the top shelf, which is [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > a pyrex measuring cup and microwave heat one rinse worth of saline at a > time. AW You shouldn't put the Hydro Pulse basin in the microwave, it will damage the fittings
Shirley ann - 07 May 2006 12:19 GMT I just saw it last week at Stop and Shop, it is right next to their Acadia Spring water here in my town and that is on the Cape.
It is located on a lower shelf, I am almost bought it by mistake otherwise I would not have seen it.
shirleyann
Murray Grossan - 09 May 2006 05:54 GMT On 5/6/06 5:07 PM, in article HSa7g.710$u4.109@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net, "Steven L." <sdlitvin@earthlinkNOSPAM.net> wrote:
>> x-no-archive: yes >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > term "distilled water" with whatever bottling and filtration process > Poland Spring uses. Please don't get confused . You don't want the pharamcy grade distilled water that is terribly expensive and you don't need it. You do want the "pure" drinking water, either distilled or water for heart patients. But again, how bad is your local water?
Steven L. - 11 May 2006 22:18 GMT > On 5/6/06 5:07 PM, in article > HSa7g.710$u4.109@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net, "Steven L." [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > "pure" drinking water, either distilled or water for heart patients. > But again, how bad is your local water? My local water is tap water from the city of Lowell MA. Do you or anyone else have any recommendations on how I could get it tested inexpensively?
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Susan - 11 May 2006 22:55 GMT > My local water is tap water from the city of Lowell MA. Do you or > anyone else have any recommendations on how I could get it tested > inexpensively? I had mine tested for free by my county's health dept. I'd nuke or boil tap water no matter what, though. I used distilled because it's very cheap and convenient.
Susan
Murray Grossan - 12 May 2006 03:19 GMT On 5/11/06 2:18 PM, in article 4463AA44.3030403@earthlinkNOSPAM.net, "Steven L." <sdlitvin@earthlinkNOSPAM.net> wrote:
> I could get it tested > inexpensively? Your own city or state agency makes measurements and this is public record. In Los Angeles it is the Water Department.
Susan - 12 May 2006 13:10 GMT > On 5/11/06 2:18 PM, in article 4463AA44.3030403@earthlinkNOSPAM.net, "Steven > L." <sdlitvin@earthlinkNOSPAM.net> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Your own city or state agency makes measurements and this is public record. > In Los Angeles it is the Water Department. That's the overall picture from their various test wells, but not from your house. I had my own house tested because the inspection engineer recommended not drinking the water due to old galvanized main water supply pipe. I replaced it even though our water test was within acceptable limits.
Sometimes there are variables that make the condition of water in an individual home different.
My water authority sends an information report yearly about their own tests and the results.
Susan
august - 12 May 2006 08:04 GMT > My local water is tap water from the city of Lowell MA. Do you or anyone > else have any recommendations on how I could get it tested inexpensively? > Steven D. Litvintchouk > Email: sdlitvin@earthlinkNOSPAM.net > Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me. It's public information. My water district mails me a flyer with all the specs several times a year. AW
Shirley ann - 07 May 2006 12:13 GMT Stop and Shop foodstore sells their brand of distilled water by the name of Acadia. I buy their Natural Spring bottled water. It is now selling for .99 a gallon.
Do not buy any bottled water that comes from Cape Cod. I always read the label to see where it comes from. The town of Falmouth residents cannot drink or use their tap water at all for cooking or drinking water. I have a friend that just sold his house there and he could not use theirs. It is because of the Air Base (Otis)..
shirleyann
Murray Grossan - 09 May 2006 05:49 GMT On 5/6/06 4:01 PM, in article 5V97g.663$u4.147@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net, "Steven L." <sdlitvin@earthlinkNOSPAM.net> wrote:
>> x-no-archive: yes >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > I have never seen distilled water sold at any supermarket here in the > Northeast. What supermarket do you shop at and where is it located? Some markets have a machine that you can use, you bring your own container.
But really any bottled water should be OK, free of chlorine and chemicals. If you boil/microwave the water you usually get rid of the chlorine and most buggies.
loxaluck - 06 May 2006 18:44 GMT isnt it just as good to boil your tap/well water?
Susan - 06 May 2006 19:45 GMT > isnt it just as good to boil your tap/well water? That's what I used to do, then I got lazy. It's not as pure, but should be sterile.
Susan
august - 06 May 2006 20:32 GMT >I would like to try irrigating with distilled water (who knows if the tap >water is contaminated in my area). But I do a lot of irrigating--just one >irrigation uses most of a quart of water, and I irrigate several times a >day at least. Where do people who do nasal irrigation buy large quantities >of distilled water from? Like Susan said, the local warehouse grocerys are good places to shop for inexpensive distilled water. The local WINCO store sells a gallon of distilled for .56 down from previous price of .58 per gallon. Crapmart - I mean Walmart usually had locally source distilled water for about .77 a gallon last time I was there. I buy 12-15 gallons at a time and this will last me a couple months. Personally, I think the ease and convenience of mixing up high quality saline a gallon at a time is worth every cent of the the .56 cents and the time spent going to the store. My local city water is from wells and I just don't want to be putting any MTBE or farm chemicals up my nose, regardless of dilution percentage. AW
Steven L. - 07 May 2006 00:03 GMT >> I would like to try irrigating with distilled water (who knows if the tap >> water is contaminated in my area). But I do a lot of irrigating--just one [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > gallon last time I was there. I buy 12-15 gallons at a time and this will > last me a couple months. I have never seen distilled water sold at the local Wal-marts here in Massachusetts. Spring water, bottled drinking water, yes, but not distilled water. The next time I'm in a Wal-Mart I'll ask about it.
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august - 07 May 2006 07:17 GMT >> Like Susan said, the local warehouse grocerys are good places to shop for >> inexpensive distilled water. The local WINCO store sells a gallon of [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Massachusetts. Spring water, bottled drinking water, yes, but not > distilled water. The next time I'm in a Wal-Mart I'll ask about it. The distilled water is always right next to the spring water and the filtered water here. The labels often look almost alike. Maybe they were just out the day you looked. AW
Murray Grossan - 09 May 2006 05:51 GMT On 5/6/06 4:03 PM, in article mX97g.665$u4.154@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net, "Steven L." <sdlitvin@earthlinkNOSPAM.net> wrote:
>>> I would like to try irrigating with distilled water (who knows if the tap >>> water is contaminated in my area). But I do a lot of irrigating--just one [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Massachusetts. Spring water, bottled drinking water, yes, but not > distilled water. The next time I'm in a Wal-Mart I'll ask about it. There is distilled water and also water for the heart, which is usually cheaper but it contains a slight bit of salt which is fine for nasal irrigation. Distilled water is more expensive than low salt water for heart patients. See about home delivery.
Andy - 08 May 2006 18:50 GMT > I would like to try irrigating with distilled water (who knows if the > tap water is contaminated in my area). But I do a lot of > irrigating--just one irrigation uses most of a quart of water, and I > irrigate several times a day at least. Where do people who do nasal > irrigation buy large quantities of distilled water from? When I first got my AYR saline rinse kit, I used distilled water. As others have mentioned, I just got mine at the supermarket (Albertson's here, but Wal Mart also has it). After I used it up, I got lazy and started using tap water.
What are the potential risks of using straight tap water?
Susan - 08 May 2006 21:02 GMT > What are the potential risks of using straight tap water? It's not sterile, so you risk introducing pathogens. You could always nuke it or boil it first, which is what I do when I used it.
Susan
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