Using Ampho B with sinus infection?

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Rick - 22 Mar 2006 04:46 GMT

Ok, here we go again. New situation:

Looks like I may be coming down with another infection. :- (

For those still with me who at least think that the Ampho B is a
viable treatment, should I continue to use it, and maybe irrigate with
saline? Is that too much irrigation?

I'm calling the doc's office tomorrow. And the lab's pharmacy. Maybe
with all that contradictory information that I'll probably hear from
both, I'll have enough to make an ill-informed decision.

Since I've just started Ampho B, I'm inclined to continue it. I
really, really don't want to have sinus surgery (right ethmoids). I'm
willing to exhaust all possible options (that aren't dangerous), and
endure another infection or two along the way. If Ampho B takes 3
months to get results, I think I need to take that route.

I really enjoy reading comments from y'all. It's like I'm not alone
anymore.

Rick

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Steven L. - 22 Mar 2006 13:00 GMT

> Ok, here we go again. New situation:
>
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> viable treatment, should I continue to use it, and maybe irrigate with
> saline? Is that too much irrigation?

Mayo's theory is that Allergic Fungal Sinusitis produces changes in the
sinuses that make them more susceptible to bacterial infection. If
they're right, then stopping the ampho irrigation won't help, and could
conceivably make things worse.

When you have a nasty sinus infection, there's no such thing as too much
irrigation. When I have a sinus infection, I produce such a flood of
mucus in my sinuses that I am forced to irrigate every two or three
*hours* around the clock (yes, I even irrigate when I wake up in the
middle of the night). The alternative would be I would literally gag
and choke on my own post-nasal drip. So over the course of a day I use
*gallons* of irrigation solution.

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Rick - 22 Mar 2006 15:52 GMT

>> Ok, here we go again. New situation:
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>and choke on my own post-nasal drip. So over the course of a day I use
>*gallons* of irrigation solution.

I don't have it that bad. I feel some thickening of mucous in the
back of my throat. I've noticed in the past couple of weeks (even
before starting the Ampho B irrigation) that I would get a sensation
of mucous (I guess) going to the back of my throat. I've never had
that sensation before, so I'm wondering if that's post-nasal drip.

After irrigating with Ampho B this morning, I felt a little better,
but not well enough to go to work. So I'm taking it easy today. I
really don't want to take antibiotics at this point, because that's
not seeming to work for the long term anymore (or hardly even for the
short term).

I do need to start feeling better. For a guy of 51, I work out harder
at the gym doing the elliptical trainer and stationary bike as those
15-20 years younger. When I'm well, I go 4-5 days a week. I
sometimes wonder if doing that is actually overdoing it, but I also
know if I didn't exercise at all, I'd be in worse shape overall.

Rick

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Murray Grossan - 22 Mar 2006 17:05 GMT

On 3/22/06 6:52 AM, in article vrn2225ikcqcsrsa66nq4t6agds7besauk@4ax.com,

>>> Ok, here we go again. New situation:
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>
> Rick

Actually the Mayo theory is that the eosinophiles which are supposed to kill
the fungus, produce Major Basic Protein. But in the sick sinus patient, they
produce too much Major Basic Protein - MBP. It is the MBP that makes the
patient sick by irritating and inflaming the sinuse.nose. Since the fungus
and the MBP are both in the mucus, irrigation helps remove both of them. But
when you irrigate excessively you also might remove some of the good stuff -
good white cells, lysozyme, etc.
This is why for some persons irrigation with or without anti fungals can
help.
Also why some persons benefit from allergic desensitization to the fungus.
For more up to date on this see Dr Tichenor's site, www.sinuses.com

P.S. PLEASE. Just becase someone disagrees with the writer is NOT a personal
attack. NEVER answer personal attacks, NEVER. Then they will go away. One of
the boards went down in flames because just one person was attacking
writers. He went away when he was ignored. But it is OK to attack spammers.

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Don Brady - 22 Mar 2006 22:11 GMT

>P.S. PLEASE. Just becase someone disagrees with the writer is NOT a personal
>attack. NEVER answer personal attacks, NEVER. Then they will go away. One of
>the boards went down in flames because just one person was attacking
>writers. He went away when he was ignored. But it is OK to attack spammers.

Well put!

Actually, I myself do not want to attack even spammers.

I just want to let them know what people expect - many are not really aware of
what expectations are and are actually glad to know.

If they still persist I will complain to their ISP's quickly enough, as
virtually all ISP's have rules against spamming newsgroups and will enforce
them. But I do not want to go to those lengths for most people, who actually
can usefully contribute to the newsgroup and take part once they learn more
about what is and is not considered appropriate.....

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