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lrhone11 - 25 Feb 2006 21:09 GMT
Hi my name is Lauren and I am starting a sinus support group.  I have
had 4 surgeries, chronic sinusitis and allergic fungal sinusitis.  I
have been in the ICU because of sinusitis and I have been suffering for
years.  I wanted to start this website to help other people who suffer
from this too.

I am looking for your opinions on my site (please don't be mean and
nasty - polite criticism is welcome) and I am also looking for
sinusitis "stories"  so if any of you are aspiring writers and would
like to publish an account of your situation on the web, with your
permission I would love to post your story.

This is a work in progress with a lot more that I want to add.  I am
going on vacation for about a week so much of the new stuff will be
added when I get back.

Please take a moment to visit:  http://www.sinusgroup.org and tell me
what you think.

Warmly,

Lauren in Chicago
Susan - 25 Feb 2006 21:18 GMT
> Hi my name is Lauren and I am starting a sinus support group.  I have
> had 4 surgeries, chronic sinusitis and allergic fungal sinusitis.  I
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>
> Lauren in Chicago

Why not just participate here if you want to help sinus sufferers?

Susan
lrhone11 - 25 Feb 2006 21:21 GMT
Because I like web development and wanted to teach myself how to
develop a website.  I have been so sick lately that I put my kids in
school full time (3 and 5) and I want to contribute somehow to sinus
sufferers.  I also plan on using the website to lobby for more research
on chronic sinusitis.
Susan - 25 Feb 2006 21:28 GMT
> Because I like web development and wanted to teach myself how to
> develop a website.  I have been so sick lately that I put my kids in
> school full time (3 and 5) and I want to contribute somehow to sinus
> sufferers.  I also plan on using the website to lobby for more research
> on chronic sinusitis.

I guess I think this is very accessible, has a core of knowledgable
folks, and I wonder why your first inclination is to replace it, rather
than add to it?

You can't support sinus sufferers here while building an informational
web site?  Are you planning to try to get advertisers to sponsor your
web site?

Susan
Susan - 25 Feb 2006 21:30 GMT
> x-no-archive: yes
>
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>
> Susan

Nevermind, I just looked at your site and answered my own question.  If
you helped folks here, it'd be for free.

Susan
lrhone11 - 25 Feb 2006 21:34 GMT
I am not sure I understand the above post - my site is free.
lrhone11 - 25 Feb 2006 21:33 GMT
Susan,

I can support sinus sufferers by building an information site - I just
thought having everything in one place would nice.  I guess we will
have to kindly agree to disagree.  I am just trying to keep myself busy
and my mind off my daily headaches.  I haven't even thought that far
ahead regarding advertisers to sponsor my site.  I am not looking for
an income, I have a long history of community activism and grassroots
organizing and I decided to do this because sinusitis is my life
unfortunately.  I have weekly visits to the ENT and it has become  a
true disability.
Steven L. - 26 Feb 2006 04:12 GMT
> Susan,
>
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> unfortunately.  I have weekly visits to the ENT and it has become  a
> true disability.

It's become a true disability for me too.

I have a suggestion:  Instead of an ordinary website, how about hosting
a sinusitis blog?  I always hoped someone would start a sinus blog.
Essentially you would post articles of interest on sinusitis (including
a journal of your own life experiences), and invite other people to
comment on those specific articles.

Blogging software is now available for free on the net.

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lrhone11 - 25 Feb 2006 21:34 GMT
Susan,

I can support sinus sufferers by building an information site - I just
thought having everything in one place would nice.  I guess we will
have to kindly agree to disagree.  I am just trying to keep myself busy
and my mind off my daily headaches.  I haven't even thought that far
ahead regarding advertisers to sponsor my site.  I am not looking for
an income, I have a long history of community activism and grassroots
organizing and I decided to do this because sinusitis is my life
unfortunately.  I have weekly visits to the ENT and it has become  a
true disability.
lrhone11 - 25 Feb 2006 21:34 GMT
Susan,

I can support sinus sufferers by building an information site - I just
thought having everything in one place would nice.  I guess we will
have to kindly agree to disagree.  I am just trying to keep myself busy
and my mind off my daily headaches.  I haven't even thought that far
ahead regarding advertisers to sponsor my site.  I am not looking for
an income, I have a long history of community activism and grassroots
organizing and I decided to do this because sinusitis is my life
unfortunately.  I have weekly visits to the ENT and it has become  a
true disability.
lrhone11 - 25 Feb 2006 21:34 GMT
Susan,

I can support sinus sufferers by building an information site - I just
thought having everything in one place would nice.  I guess we will
have to kindly agree to disagree.  I am just trying to keep myself busy
and my mind off my daily headaches.  I haven't even thought that far
ahead regarding advertisers to sponsor my site.  I am not looking for
an income, I have a long history of community activism and grassroots
organizing and I decided to do this because sinusitis is my life
unfortunately.  I have weekly visits to the ENT and it has become  a
true disability.
lrhone11 - 25 Feb 2006 21:39 GMT
I am sorry for all the duplicate posts - my daughter was sitting on my
lap and I didn't know she was leaning on my keyboard.
lrhone11 - 25 Feb 2006 21:34 GMT
Susan,

I can support sinus sufferers by building an information site - I just
thought having everything in one place would nice.  I guess we will
have to kindly agree to disagree.  I am just trying to keep myself busy
and my mind off my daily headaches.  I haven't even thought that far
ahead regarding advertisers to sponsor my site.  I am not looking for
an income, I have a long history of community activism and grassroots
organizing and I decided to do this because sinusitis is my life
unfortunately.  I have weekly visits to the ENT and it has become  a
true disability.
augustwestern - 26 Feb 2006 06:59 GMT
> Susan,
>
> I can support sinus sufferers by building an information site - I just
> thought having everything in one place would nice.

You have a nice website. You should change the wording that indicates your
discussion group is the first support group and online community for
sinusitis disease sufferers and add a link somewhere for this Usenet group.
This group has been active for 11 years. There are other online sinusitis
groups but most aren't very active. Usenet was around a long time before
Google was born. DejaNews used to archive Usenet groups and now that Google
owns DejaNews they took over archiving but their are many ways to access
Usenet besides using Google.

Under the Pain icon you mention the Headache Clinic run by Dr Cady in
Missouri. Have you seen Dr Cady? He used to have a radio program broadcast
in the Midwest that I'd listen to when visiting the area.

best,   AW
lrhone11 - 26 Feb 2006 11:10 GMT
> > Susan,
> >
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>
> best,   AW
lrhone11 - 25 Feb 2006 21:34 GMT
Susan,

I can support sinus sufferers by building an information site - I just
thought having everything in one place would nice.  I guess we will
have to kindly agree to disagree.  I am just trying to keep myself busy
and my mind off my daily headaches.  I haven't even thought that far
ahead regarding advertisers to sponsor my site.  I am not looking for
an income, I have a long history of community activism and grassroots
organizing and I decided to do this because sinusitis is my life
unfortunately.  I have weekly visits to the ENT and it has become  a
true disability.
Susan - 25 Feb 2006 21:45 GMT
> Susan,
>
> I can support sinus sufferers by building an information site - I just
> thought having everything in one place would nice.  I guess we will
> have to kindly agree to disagree.

Works for me.

 > I am just trying to keep myself busy
> and my mind off my daily headaches.

Can't you keep busy without luring people away from an established
support group?

  I haven't even thought that far
> ahead regarding advertisers to sponsor my site.

There's advertising on your site now, if I'm not mistaken.

 I am not looking for
> an income, I have a long history of community activism and grassroots
> organizing and I decided to do this because sinusitis is my life
> unfortunately.  I have weekly visits to the ENT and it has become  a
> true disability.

I'm sorry your sinusitis is so severe.

We're all here because our sinusitis has been debilitating.  This is a
support group, we all know what that's like.

Susan
lrhone11 - 25 Feb 2006 21:57 GMT
There's advertising on your site now, if I'm not mistaken. >

I am trying to break even on my monthly webhosting so I can justify to
my husband why I am doing this.  I have been looking for a support
group for about 5 years and I just found you guys today - I guess I
didn't look hard enough.

With 37 million people suffering from sinusitis I am sure there is a
teeny tiny portion of the that community that I could effectively reach
and help - that doesn't know about this group.   I also think it is
reasonable that people who have disabilities like this can also belong
to more than one group - personally I wouldn't rely on any "one" group
for all of my support or information.
Susan - 25 Feb 2006 22:07 GMT
> There's advertising on your site now, if I'm not mistaken. >
>
> I am trying to break even on my monthly webhosting so I can justify to
> my husband why I am doing this.  I have been looking for a support
> group for about 5 years and I just found you guys today - I guess I
> didn't look hard enough.

ROFL!!  It takes about 30 seconds for anyone who's ever been online to
find this group.

> With 37 million people suffering from sinusitis I am sure there is a
> teeny tiny portion of the that community that I could effectively reach
> and help - that doesn't know about this group.   I also think it is
> reasonable that people who have disabilities like this can also belong
> to more than one group - personally I wouldn't rely on any "one" group
> for all of my support or information.

I think you're here to make a buck and that you've already proven to be
a liar.

Susan
lrhone11 - 25 Feb 2006 22:13 GMT
Please accept my apologies - I really did not mean to offend you or
anyone else.  I have done searches before for sinusitis support groups
but I didn't know until recently that google had groups - like yahoo
does.   I am not familiar with usenet groups.  I wish I knew more about
them.  I have also asked every ENT I have been to (and their nurses and
PA's) in Chicago for a support group and they could not refer me to
one,  I humbly apologize for my ignorance.

Lauren
Susan - 25 Feb 2006 22:28 GMT
> Please accept my apologies - I really did not mean to offend you or
> anyone else.  I have done searches before for sinusitis support groups
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>
> Lauren

I don't think ignorance is the thing you ought to be apologizing for, in
this case.

Susan
CGipper - 26 Feb 2006 05:24 GMT
Susan,
Give it a break! She is simply doing something to try to help, and you
have such a negative attitude about it. If you don't want to praticipate
in it ..fine, but please get over it!
Rick - 26 Feb 2006 06:25 GMT
>Susan,
> Give it a break! She is simply doing something to try to help, and you
>have such a negative attitude about it. If you don't want to praticipate
>in it ..fine, but please get over it!

I agree.  She isn't harming anyone, and might be helping many.  It's
good to have several venues for information - it's what's made the
'net a success.  And may I state that not everyone has easy access to
Usenet, or even know what it is, nor do some ISPs even provide it.
Sure, someone can go to google groups and get the info that way, but
it isn't as easy for many people as using Agent - or a good web site
for that matter.  If she ends up selling snake oil, then everyone will
know.  Unless that happens, it's better to ease up, or take it private
with her.
Susan - 26 Feb 2006 15:38 GMT
> Susan,
>  Give it a break! She is simply doing something to try to help, and you
> have such a negative attitude about it. If you don't want to praticipate
> in it ..fine, but please get over it!

I don't know who you are or what your interest in this discussion is,
but I've reached a different conclusion about it.

I like the blogging suggestions and the suggestion to link to this group.

Susan
Steven L. - 26 Feb 2006 17:03 GMT
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>
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>
> I like the blogging suggestions and the suggestion to link to this group.

In fact, one of the first discussion subjects I would suggest for her
blog would be the FAQ of this newsgroup.  I've long maintained that the
current version of the FAQ is nearly worthless for 95% of the queries we
get on this newsgroup.  (Notice how practically no one refers a newbie
to it, to answer any of the newbie's questions.)  A blog would be a
great place to start a discussion leading to its total revision--or
maybe to its being scrapped altogether.

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Don Brady - 26 Feb 2006 19:27 GMT
>In fact, one of the first discussion subjects I would suggest for her
>blog would be the FAQ of this newsgroup.  I've long maintained that the
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>great place to start a discussion leading to its total revision--or
>maybe to its being scrapped altogether.

Actually my suggestion would be that a wiki would probably be the ideal way. It
is designed for collaboration.

I can put one up if the interest is there (I am already running a wiki on the
server for other domains so it would be easy if someone wants to work on
maintaining it).  

I have emailed you a few times on these topics in the past, but maybe your spam
filters blocked my emails or something.......
augustwestern - 27 Feb 2006 22:01 GMT
> Susan,

 I have weekly visits to the ENT and it has become  a
> true disability.

Just curious what in the world would require weekly visits to the ENT Dr
unless this means getting an allergy shot?
lrhone11 - 28 Feb 2006 23:04 GMT
Allergic Fungal Sinusitis  - weekly suctioning of mucous
aroberts - 26 Feb 2006 20:51 GMT
> Hi my name is Lauren and I am starting a sinus support group.  I have
> had 4 surgeries, chronic sinusitis and allergic fungal sinusitis.  I
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> Warmly,

> Lauren in Chicago

I visited your site, and it's a nicely-organized work.  The advertising
doesn't offend me--it's a website and not unexpected--it's better than the
spammers who inundate newsgroups.  Since you're from Chicago, I hope that
you have consulted Dr. Stankiewicz, co-chair of the Otorhinolarngology
department at Loyola--he's the best around.
lrhone11 - 27 Feb 2006 16:20 GMT
I appreciate the constructive feedback on my website.  My goal is to
have relevant advertising that does not "overpower" or "trick" readers
into believing that the advertisement is information.  I will be adding
a blog and I will be adding a bunch of relevant information.  I placed
a link to this newsgroup the moment I found this group.  It can be
found under the "resources" section in the website.  I don't consider
this group competition or other groups out there as competition for my
website.  All I really want to do is provide new, timely, relevant,
breaking news for sinusitis sufferers.   I feel that the sinusitis
community (information and research) is very fragmented due to the
nature of the disease.   I have also found out some very interesting
things regarding my own health that have really helped me recently and
I want to share them with others.  I might put  a promotion together
where if you sign up for the community you will get a free ebook.

I am currently being treated at the University of Chicago.  Dr.
Naclerio is my ENT and Dr. Corey is my allergist.  They have been
invaluable as a resource for me over the last 2 years.  I have seen Dr.
McMahan, Dr. Panje, Dr. Allegretti, and a few others to name a few.  I
have not seen Dr. Stankiewicz - however I will keep that information
handy.  I have figured out that sometimes you need to change doctors to
find relieve or find someone to "think outside the box", or even for
second opinions.

I am posting from Florida at the moment - the weather is really quite
nice here I am surprised I don't have a headache from the flight and
the mold.

Lauren
kathywb2001@yahoo.com - 02 Mar 2006 07:28 GMT
I visited your site and also think it is well organized and
informative.  I don't see that it impinges in any way on this forum.
It is a different format, and I see it as a welcome addition to all of
us who suffer from chronic sinusitis.  This forum has been
indispensible and will continue to be so, but I don't see why anyone
would object to another support group.  I hope you are open to
suggestions on articles, experiences, etc. to include in the future.

Kathyw

> I appreciate the constructive feedback on my website.  My goal is to
> have relevant advertising that does not "overpower" or "trick" readers
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>
> Lauren
lrhone11 - 02 Mar 2006 14:19 GMT
Thank you Kathy, yes I am open to suggestions regarding articles, etc.
I think that people who have medical problems should have many places
to go for help, information, and support.  I am not looking to replace
this forum at all.  I am hoping that I will be able to reach people who
would otherwise not be able to find this forum.  I will also continue
to refer people to this usenet group as long as this group continues to
welcome new membership.

Lauren
tyshock - 02 Mar 2006 15:19 GMT
Hi Lauren,

I think you're sincere in your efforts to help people.  If you could
get your site to take off, I think it would be a benefit to the
community.

I'm a web developer by profession, so I'll give you some advice:

A site like yours depends on fresh, updated content.  By glancing at
your source, it looks like you using dreamweaver and it's templating
system.  For a site with your content model, you should look into one
of the free php portal systems (I say php only because your forums use
php, and I know your server would support it).

The biggest benefit for you there would come when adding news/content,
and it's associated workflow.  Instead of editing your pages in
dreamweaver and uploading all your new content, you would just go input
your content over an actual webpage within your site and it would
instantly be reflected.  There are tons of benefits on top of that, but
this isn't the forum for that.  I just figured, if you have lofty goals
for your site, it's better to implement something like this now than to
wait until you have much more content to deal with.

Take a look here:  http://www.opensourcecms.com/

Good Luck,

Tyler
lrhone11 - 03 Mar 2006 15:36 GMT
Tyler,

Thank you, I just posted a question in the forum on
www.opensourcecms.com - I appreciate it and may email you later.

Lauren
 
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