> I'm having a rough time getting an answer so I can make a decision on
> whether to take antibiotics or not. I've got a very nasty little sinus
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>
> Anyone know about combining these meds?
I'll address two points.
1) 4-6 days is not very long for a sinus infection to clear. You don't
say whether you've tried frequent saline irrigation, along with
decongestants and/or mucus thinners. If not, I'd try that before taking
antibiotics. In my experience, it takes at least 30 days of them to
clear an infection; less may just piss it off and make it resistant to
the drugs.
2) For answers to questions about drug interactions, check out rxlist.com
Susan
iJah - 26 Jan 2006 15:36 GMT
iJah wrote:
>> I'm having a rough time getting an answer so I can make a decision on
>> whether to take antibiotics or not. I've got a very nasty little sinus
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>>
>> Anyone know about combining these meds?
>I'll address two points.
>
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>
>Susan
Thanks Susan. I understand, but I'm a real baby/whiner - six days
being ill feels like a long time. I suppose there are many in this
discussion group who would be thrilled to have an infection that only
lasted a week. I'll probably take your advice and hold off on the
antibiotics.
Susan - 26 Jan 2006 15:52 GMT
> Thanks Susan. I understand, but I'm a real baby/whiner - six days
> being ill feels like a long time. I suppose there are many in this
> discussion group who would be thrilled to have an infection that only
> lasted a week. I'll probably take your advice and hold off on the
> antibiotics.
If you don't like being sick, you should scrupulously avoid anything
that might make your acute infection turn into a chronic one. If you
don't improve, consider seeing an ENT before you self medicate
inadequately. It might be more effective to irrigate with abx than to
take them orally, where little gets into the actual sinuses.
Susan
Shirley Ann - 27 Jan 2006 10:30 GMT
Call your drugstore about mixing your Meds. If they are safe to take
together.
shirleyann
Murray Grossan - 27 Jan 2006 16:14 GMT
On 1/27/06 2:30 AM, in article
20849-43D9F64C-478@storefull-3138.bay.webtv.net, "Shirley Ann"
<shirleyann2@webtv.net> wrote:
> Call your drugstore about mixing your Meds. If they are safe to take
> together.
>
> shirleyann
The title of this stream is off topic, but it really is not off topic. Drug
interactions are terribly important and the FDA/ legal profession makes it
much more difficult because the PDR and package insert all list the same 101
side effects, so hardly anyone knows which are the significant ones and
which are the real ones. What is even more confusing, some of the studies
they list compare placebo with the drug, with more side effects from the
placebo. The drugs that I use every single day and have the most knowledge
about lists side effects I have never seen or heard of.
If you are taking medications your safest bet is to use one pharmacist who
gets to know you. This method saved my son in lows life, when he showed up
with an Rx which, had he taken with his other meds, might have killed him.
The pharmacist, who fills his meds regularly, recognized that he shouldn't
be taking the new Rx.
This practice is even more needed today, when we have a shortage of
pharmacists and they are required to move quickly.
Another problem is that your foot doctor prescribes one drug, your heart
doctor another, your lung doctor another, etc You really need your own
pharmacist to keep track. I guess that's why I try to avoid any Rx and stick
to saline nose drops when patients present with 8 or more drugs I know
nothing about.
> I'm having a rough time getting an answer so I can make a decision on
> whether to take antibiotics or not. I've got a very nasty little sinus
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> Seroquel and even better, if it's OK - which antibiotic to use - and
> since the antibiotics are over a year old do they still have potency?
You need to ask your doctor or pharmacist, but I *think* you should be
all right. (These days, CVS and Walgreens have drug interactions on
their computers and can check quickly.) I wouldn't use either one for a
sinus infection though. Why aren't you seeing a doctor if you're sick?
Now, for my world-famous (ha-ha) lecture on Drug Interactions 101:
Chemically, Zithromax is a funny beast. Technically it's in the same
category as Biaxin and erythromycin, but its unique chemical structure
causes it to have fewer interactions with Seroquel than either Biaxin or
erythromycin would.
If you want to learn more about the magic of drug interactions, surf the
Internet and study up on an enzyme system called "Cytochrome P450."
This class of about ten different enzymes is needed to metabolize
certain drugs and get them out of your system, so they don't build up in
your body every time you take the next dose.
Erythromycin (or Biaxin) inhibits the action of Cytochrome P450 3A4, an
enzyme needed for the metabolism of Seroquel. (Zithromax does NOT
inhibit that enzyme.) That's why those two drugs, erythromycin and
Seroquel, cannot be taken together (unless you cut way back on your dose
of Seroquel). With that enzyme inhibited, the blood level of Seroquel
will continue to rise in your body every time you take another dose.
That's how this game is played: Some drugs and foods *inhibit* certain
P450 enzymes. Some other drugs and foods *potentiate* certain P450
enzymes, and yet other drugs like Seroquel *need* to be metabolized by
one of those enzymes (Seroquel is a so-called enzyme "substrate").
So that's how the game is played: Take a P450 inhibitor of some enzyme
X with a P450 substrate of X, and the substrate will build up in your
body, causing side effects. Take a potentiator of X with a substrate of
X, and the substrate will be metabolized too quickly, so you get a less
effective dose in your body. And here's the chart:
http://medicine.iupui.edu/flockhart/table.htm

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Preesi - 26 Jan 2006 18:43 GMT
>> I'm having a rough time getting an answer so I can make a decision on
>> whether to take antibiotics or not. I've got a very nasty little
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> http://medicine.iupui.edu/flockhart/table.htm
On Biaxin I get high!
Its got mania as a side effect so watch Biaxin with Seroquel

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iJah - 27 Jan 2006 01:33 GMT
iJah wrote:
>> I'm having a rough time getting an answer so I can make a decision on
>> whether to take antibiotics or not. I've got a very nasty little sinus
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>> Seroquel and even better, if it's OK - which antibiotic to use - and
>> since the antibiotics are over a year old do they still have potency?
>You need to ask your doctor or pharmacist, but I *think* you should be
>all right. (These days, CVS and Walgreens have drug interactions on
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>
>http://medicine.iupui.edu/flockhart/table.htm
This is real good to know Steve. I appreciate the info greatly, but
now i'm overwhelmed trying to figure out the interactions between my
meds. I'm on two blood pressure meds, but which do something with P450
enzyme and then Seroquel and from time to time other oddball meds.
Good lord, no doctor or pharmacist has ever mentioned this to me. I
tend to think now that some cardiac/circulatory 'events' i've had are
due to the enzyme interplay.
Steven L. - 27 Jan 2006 03:56 GMT
> This is real good to know Steve. I appreciate the info greatly, but
> now i'm overwhelmed trying to figure out the interactions between my
> meds.
Most major pharmacy chains have all this on their computers by now. In
fact, I have found that pharmacists at Walgreens and CVS are willing to
check out potential drug interactions on their computer, even before
I've filled prescriptions there. So just ask them and they will run the
check for you on any meds you want.
If you want to spend the money, you can even buy drug-interaction
software for your computer at home.

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