Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Sinusitis / January 2006
allergy tests, important step!
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canoeeee - 14 Jan 2006 15:19 GMT I didn't know allergies could develop with time. I tested negative generally in 1992. New testing found out that I'm allergic to dust mites, mold, feathers, etc, which was definitely worsening my sinusitis! SO, along with February revision surgery and current ridding my bedroom, etc. of allergens, I feel more hopeful of relief than I have in 14 year. Any suggestions out there, beyond the ones in FAQ for getting as allergen free as possible? We're getting a new mattress and pillows today, getting rid of old rugs,dust mops, plants and old books (sad), weeding 50% of tchotckies (stuff that only collects dust), buying an air filter, putting new filters on our heating/cooling system, cleaning and repainting moldy downstairs bathroom. Anything else?
Susan - 14 Jan 2006 16:44 GMT > I didn't know allergies could develop with time. I tested negative > generally in 1992. New testing found out that I'm allergic to dust mites, [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > new filters on our heating/cooling system, cleaning and repainting moldy > downstairs bathroom. Anything else? Buy allergen barriers for all the new bedding, or it won't be better for long. Make sure to dust a lot, including the backs of headboards, pictures on the wall, tops of doorways, and ceilings and walls once per month. Only have rugs that you can turn over and vacuum top and bottom. Consider 100% natural latex pillows and mattress. They're not hospitable to mold or mites and they're heavenly to sleep on.
I've done all of this for years, and I still need allergy shots, irrigation and meds for sinusitis.
Susan
canoeeee - 15 Jan 2006 20:38 GMT Thank you thank you Dr. Grossan. My mom is on thyroid pills, and I tested low once, then normal. I'll get tested again right away. It's amazing to be answered by a doc on-line. Really cool! Thanks, Susan, for the suggestions. I'll get an allergy barrier for the mattress. I was going to, but they cost almost $60, so I thought I'd skip the step. Also, didn't think about underside of rug, back of headboard, tops of doors or walls or ceiling. Big help.
Susan - 15 Jan 2006 21:49 GMT > Thanks, Susan, for the suggestions. I'll get an allergy barrier for the > mattress. I was going to, but they cost almost $60, so I thought I'd skip > the step. Also, didn't think about underside of rug, back of headboard, > tops of doors or walls or ceiling. Big help. If you want to save money on the barrier, buy the cheap vinyl one and put an inexpensive mattress pad over that and launder the pad in hot water with your sheets each week. You must get one for your pillow; splurge for the comfortable microfiber for that.
Susan
Don Brady - 17 Jan 2006 00:43 GMT >Thank you thank you Dr. Grossan. My mom is on thyroid pills, and I tested >low once, then normal. Try to get the numeric value of TSH so that people here can comment on it. Different labs use different standards. The recommended range has been continously revised and nto all albs have kept up with it.
On the other hand, just because you (and I) may have borderline low thyroid does not necessarily mean that we shold treat it. It is a difficult issue.....
Also, if you are one a low calorie diet, that may effect it (and your immune response!).
> I'll get tested again right away. It's amazing to >be answered by a doc on-line. Really cool! Steven L. - 17 Jan 2006 16:32 GMT > x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > I've done all of this for years, and I still need allergy shots, > irrigation and meds for sinusitis. Susan, do you or any one else you know suspect you have allergies to things the usual allergy tests don't test for?
My ENT is convinced I have allergies because of my hypersensitive/hypersecretory turbinates. And on my own, I have found that OTC antihistamines like Chlor-Trimeton have stopped sneezing attacks that I often get. But I was tested for allergies, three times, by the usual skin tests. And all results were negative. So not only is this a mystery, but I can't get a prescription for a minimally sedating antihistamine because the doctors say "If the allergy tests are negative, you don't have allergies so you don't need antihistamines."
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Murray Grossan - 17 Jan 2006 16:47 GMT On 1/17/06 8:32 AM, in article m_8zf.1056$rH5.107@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net, "Steven L." <sdlitvin@earthlinkNOSPAM.net> wrote:
> I've done all of this for years, and I still need allergy shots, >> irrigation and meds for sinusitis. Steve, have you tried Singular? That seems to help for stubborn allergy situations. Practically no side effects.
Murray Grossan, M.D. Www.EarAid.net
Susan - 17 Jan 2006 17:03 GMT > On 1/17/06 8:32 AM, in article > m_8zf.1056$rH5.107@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net, "Steven L." [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Murray Grossan, M.D. > Www.EarAid.net Boy, Singulair screwed me up bigtime. Read the patient feedback about it on askapatient.com. I posted there, too.
It does relieve a lot of allergy sx for some folks, but is not as safe as marketing has led docs to believe.
Susan
Steven L. - 17 Jan 2006 22:43 GMT > On 1/17/06 8:32 AM, in article > m_8zf.1056$rH5.107@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net, "Steven L." [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Steve, have you tried Singular? That seems to help for stubborn allergy > situations. Practically no side effects. No one will prescribe allergy meds for me because the allergy tests were negative.
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Susan - 17 Jan 2006 22:46 GMT > No one will prescribe allergy meds for me because the allergy tests were > negative. I have to tell you, this is the weirdest thing I've ever heard. I, and most folks I know, get allergy meds rx'ed based upon complaints of allergy sx. Very few folks I know with allergy meds get tested.
Susan
Don Brady - 19 Jan 2006 03:19 GMT >No one will prescribe allergy meds for me because the allergy tests were >negative. You could just order from http://meds4yourhealth.com/?show=deal .
If a prescription is needed in Europe (where they are) they will find a doctor to write one.
Murray Grossan - 21 Jan 2006 04:51 GMT On 1/17/06 2:43 PM, in article mqezf.1218$rH5.481@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net, "Steven L." <sdlitvin@earthlinkNOSPAM.net> wrote:
> No one will prescribe allergy meds for me because the allergy tests were > negative. Tell then you have Vasomotor Rhinitis and that you need Allegra for that.
But Chlortrimeton which is not OTC is still an excellent allergy medicaition.
Susan - 17 Jan 2006 17:02 GMT > do you or any one else you know suspect you have allergies to things the > usual allergy tests don't test for? Yeah and no, at different times in my life. Many years ago, when I reacted severely to many things, I was RAST tested. The test didn't turn up a single one of my inhalant allergies, but showed I was allergic to foods in the order of severity I had predicted to the docs pre-test. This was during a time that I was becoming incredibly immune compromised due to undiagnosed, longstanding tick borne diseases. My pregnancy knocked down my hypervigilant immune system and corrected a lot of my symptoms, BTW, for years.
On skin testing, I was positive for allergies I was pretty aware of; ragweed, trees, greas, house dust and mites, molds, and slightly or not at all to cats (I always have two, and used to be much more allergic to them, now I'm barely sensitive at all).
I (and many folks I know of) find that all allergic symptoms are relieved by quieting the immune system with desensitization to the worst and most omnipresent antigens and few most severe allergies. Most allergists do this so slowly that patients conclude the shots don't work. I travel over an hour to see a doc who desensitizes me in 12 weeks, then shots ever two weeks to a month. Tremendous improvement in my quality of life, but I still can be reactive to high dust or mold levels.
I know folks who are anergic, don't react on skin testing, but who get diagnosed by environmental medicine docs and desensitized using drops under the tongue.
Skin and/or RAST testing can miss your allergies depending on your own response to the challenge.
> My ENT is convinced I have allergies because of my > hypersensitive/hypersecretory turbinates. And on my own, I have found [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > antihistamine because the doctors say "If the allergy tests are > negative, you don't have allergies so you don't need antihistamines." Steven, if the usual skin tests don't work, I'd push for RAST testing of your blood. If that doesn't work, I'd look into environmental medicine. It has a bit of "alternative" taint, but I know of enough folks for whom it's been the only way to diagnose and treat very severe allergies.
Susan
Boron Elgar - 17 Jan 2006 18:36 GMT >My ENT is convinced I have allergies because of my >hypersensitive/hypersecretory turbinates. And on my own, I have found [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >antihistamine because the doctors say "If the allergy tests are >negative, you don't have allergies so you don't need antihistamines." Have you tried Astelin? Grated, it is topical, but it is approved for non-allergic rhinitis.
Boron
Murray Grossan - 14 Jan 2006 22:28 GMT On 1/14/06 7:19 AM, in article d65bd156b10a07e520e49151818e7981@localhost.talkaboutsupport.com, "canoeeee" <nan22@aol.com> wrote:
> I didn't know allergies could develop with time. I tested negative > generally in 1992. New testing found out that I'm allergic to dust mites, [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > new filters on our heating/cooling system, cleaning and repainting moldy > downstairs bathroom. Anything else? When allergies develop in age, we like to check for blood thyroid levels. A lowered level can be associated with allergy onset and can be cured by taking thyroid to correct it.
By the way, another single cause of onset of allergy symptoms is the use of ozone generating filters.
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