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Fred - 17 Dec 2005 17:20 GMT
I used to have some very serious and dangerous sinus attacks.  The
symtpom was acute drowsiness.  Something was swelling my sinuses and
causing this drowsiness.  It would happen usually when I was driveing
in my auto for 15 to 20 minutes.  Thirty five years ago, I was so
drowsy while driving that I lost consciousness, drove into a roadside
bank and rolled my car.  It took a lot of trial and error before I
found out what the triggers were.  One was second hand cigarette smoke.
The other was red wine.  I cannot begin to count the times where I
returned from the mountains after skiing and was so drowsy that I had
to pull off the road to recover.  The culprit was hot spiced wine that
I would drink after a long day of skiing.   I have been fired from jobs
where there was excessive cigarette smoke.  I would start to doze in a
meeting and the boss fired for "falling asleep on the job".  The night
I wrecked my car, I was in a smokey bar that was serving cheap red wine
as a "quarter night" special.  Last night I went to a Christmas party.
It was a no smokeing party.  Red wine was served but I did not drink
any.  I drove home safely.  I was fully allert and awake and I have not
incurred this drowsy feeling for quite some time now.
Murray Grossan - 17 Dec 2005 18:28 GMT
On 12/17/05 9:20 AM, in article
1134840006.508954.5030@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com, "Fred" <fenisz@aol.com>
wrote:

> I used to have some very serious and dangerous sinus attacks.  The
> symtpom was acute drowsiness.  Something was swelling my sinuses and
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> any.  I drove home safely.  I was fully allert and awake and I have not
> incurred this drowsy feeling for quite some time now.

Insurance companies now recognize that persons with several driving
accidents need to be evaluated for sleep apnea, as this is a common cuase of
the accidents you describe.
Fred - 17 Dec 2005 19:19 GMT
> On 12/17/05 9:20 AM, in article
> 1134840006.508954.5030@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com, "Fred" <fenisz@aol.com>
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> accidents need to be evaluated for sleep apnea, as this is a common cuase of
> the accidents you describe.

Good point.  I think that insurance companies are more acutely of the
driving hazzards caused from people falling asleep at the wheel.  I do
have apnea but it has not affected my driving.  I do know that my
problems were induced by sinus problems.  I posted to see if anyone
else has this problem.  I learned through trial and error how to keep
my nasal passages open.  Since I have been successful at keeping my
nasal passages open, I have not had this onrush of acute drowsiness.
If I can save someones life by starting this thread, it will be worth
it.  One of the reasons why people drink red wine is because it makes
them mellow.  There are histamines in red wine.  Maybe too much mellow
causes drowsiness.  This makes you want to go to sleep.  Too much
mellowness behind the wheel of a car can cause an accident.
Murray Grossan - 18 Dec 2005 19:40 GMT
On 12/17/05 11:19 AM, in article
1134847195.551328.280950@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com, "Fred"
<fenisz@aol.com> wrote:

> I do
> have apnea but it has not affected my driving.

Why not get this treated and cleared then see it the daytime sleepyness
stops.
Acute pain, swelling, stuffiness is not a cause for becoming drowsy.  
Steven L. - 18 Dec 2005 23:15 GMT
> On 12/17/05 11:19 AM, in article
> 1134847195.551328.280950@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com, "Fred"
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> stops.
> Acute pain, swelling, stuffiness is not a cause for becoming drowsy.  

An underlying chronic sinus infection that causes the symptoms of pain,
swelling and stuffiness can also cause malaise.  Malaise is a frequent
accompaniment to respiratory infections.

I frequently find myself dozing off when I have a bad cold or sinus
infection.

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Don Brady - 19 Dec 2005 00:02 GMT
>An underlying chronic sinus infection that causes the symptoms of pain,
>swelling and stuffiness can also cause malaise.  Malaise is a frequent
>accompaniment to respiratory infections.
>
>I frequently find myself dozing off when I have a bad cold or sinus
>infection.

Of course  it also can be difficult to sleep well with such an infection.......
Fred - 20 Dec 2005 19:50 GMT
I had a 3 year peroid from 1982 to 1985 where I had a continous chronic
sinus infection.  It had a lot to  do with my working conditions.  I
was an insurance agent and  had to report to an office once each week.
The office was manned by 18 agents and managers.  8 to 10 of these
people were heavy smokers.  There was no ventillation.  You could see
the smoke accumulating on the cieling.  I would leave after each
meeting feeling very sick.  I developed a chronic cough that did not
stop until I quit my job three years later.  I also had chronic
rhinitis.  This became infected.  The infection dripped into my lungs
giving me chronic bronchitis.  I developed a low grade fever.  I had
chills.  In other words, I was a pretty sick dude.  During some of
these meetings, I would have my drowsy problems as I described about my
driving.  My manager would get mad at me and make a specticle of me.
My health failed in 1984 and I quit my job in 1985.  I worked hard to
create a good agency and I lost it due to the cigarette smoke inside my
office.  This was the early 80's.  By the late 80's, the anti smoking
movement started to take hold.  Now, most of us do not have to live
with the constant threat of inflammation of our respiratory tracts by
second hand smoke.  I am still sensitive to other chemicals and
pollins, etc.  I do not have the massive sinus inflammations that I had
in the 80's.
 
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