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Ivker Book - Sinus Survival

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loxaluck - 17 Nov 2005 18:15 GMT
Hello:

i guess it is inexpensive enough so i should probably just pick it up and
check it out for myself.  Perhaps I have gotten as much out of "western"
medicine that I can, but it sounds as if it will involve a regimen of some
time.  Has anyone followed through with the steps outlined?  For how long?

it seems as if the early chapters will outline a description and some
discussion of vitamins and supplements.  is any of this information such
that can not be gathered for free through the internet?

the 2nd half of the book seems to be devoted to various "state of mind"
theories, with chapters such as: Dreamwork and Journaling; Optimism and
Humor; Prayer; Gratitude; Finding Spirit in Nature...

Not to knock the above, but just wondering how much of the book deals with
what.

thanks
Don Brady - 17 Nov 2005 18:50 GMT
>Hello:
>
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>Not to knock the above, but just wondering how much of the book deals with
>what.

Quite a few people like this book.     It certianly looks good superficially.

But just in my *personal* opinion, a lot of it is bunk.

Having tried everything, I have found in my own experience that all of the stat
of mind approaches make absolutely no diffenence.

What does matter is allergenand irritant avoidance, sleep and diet. to me.

I think that a lot of his fungal stuff is very questionable too.

But people love the book because it appears to offer non-traditional solutions,
which is what people are hoping for.
dfddf - 18 Nov 2005 03:09 GMT
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> But people love the book because it appears to offer non-traditional solutions,
> which is what people are hoping for.

Well for chronic sinusitis nothing traditional appears to work...
Steven L. - 17 Nov 2005 19:11 GMT
> Hello:
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> discussion of vitamins and supplements.  is any of this information such
> that can not be gathered for free through the internet?

The first half of the book is pretty good, if you're looking for
"alternative" approaches like nutrition and environmental changes.  And
Dr. Ivker recommends specific doses of nutritional supplements--how much
to take and how often.  That's something I have rarely found on the
Internet.

But the Sinus Survival Program he outlined has not had an impressive
track record in its first scientific study:

"Silvers,   Ivker  (publisher of Sinus Survival) and Kirkpatrick found
that use of Fluconazole was helpful in treatment of chronic sinusitis
patients who failed aggressive conventional treatment. Those patients
first underwent Dr. Ivker's holistic treatment, but did not respond in
the first 6 weeks. It was difficult to assess the holistic treatment
because of the study design, but the Diflucan did appear to have some
benefit."

http://tinyurl.com/cp8yb

Finally, Dr. Ivker apparently never met an "alternative" treatment he
didn't like.  He even endorses homeopathy and reflexology, which I
regard as total quackery.  Reflexology is so wacko that I'm surprised
that Dr. Ivker, a trained doctor, would include it in his book.

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sedum41 - 17 Nov 2005 19:31 GMT
I think first half of the Ivker book has the most value as it lists as
Steven said the amounts of vitamins and supplements to take. It also gives
a good description of the antibiotics and environmental things to try. Of
course new antibiotics are developed since the book came out. I agreee
some of the 'new age' stuff is a little over the top. (Although I practice
yoga/meditation and I think it helps). I would recommend getting the Ivker
book from your local library. There are many editions of the book but you
could probably go with any of the recent ones. Check interlibrary loan
also. My library had the book and if it didn't my library consortium which
has something like 25 libraries could get it for me (very convenient). I
read several of the other sinus books this way so I didn't waste any money
buying books I didn't need or find helpful. Dr. David Kennedy and Dr.
Grossan each have sinus books I got through the library consortium. Each
book has some suggestions worth exploring. One thing from Dr. Grossan's
book - tea with honey and use of papaya/bromelian based decongestants may
help you.

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