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Gary Mark Stocker - 09 Aug 2005 21:26 GMT
I am considering going to a chiropractor for my sinus problems. Does anyone
know if it works? Thanks in advance.
LesliKay - 11 Aug 2005 02:54 GMT
> I am considering going to a chiropractor for my sinus problems. Does anyone
> know if it works? Thanks in advance.

You know, I used to go to a chiro a lot.  I do believe that he helped my
sinus problems.  He has certain pressure points that he applied pressure to,
got my neck good and loose, and it really helped.  I may go again soon, as I
forgot all about doing those treatments until I saw your post.  Believe it
or not, the pressure points that he treated were on my hands, between my
thumb and forefinger.  I do believe the chiro manipulation does work.....

Lesli
Amy Sargent - 07 Sep 2005 04:17 GMT
My chiropractor showed me the pressure points on my hands; she also has done
pressure points on my forehead and sinus area.  The forehead/sinus
pressure-point treatment seems to give me a headache.  Probably this is
because it is moving stuff around, but for the most part I stick with doing
the thumb/forefinger pressure points myself.

"Gary Mark Stocker" wrote

> I am considering going to a chiropractor for my sinus problems. Does
anyone
> know if it works? Thanks in advance.

You know, I used to go to a chiro a lot.  I do believe that he helped my
sinus problems.  He has certain pressure points that he applied pressure
to,
got my neck good and loose, and it really helped.  I may go again soon, as
I
forgot all about doing those treatments until I saw your post.  Believe it
or not, the pressure points that he treated were on my hands, between my
thumb and forefinger.  I do believe the chiro manipulation does work.....

Lesli
Steven L. - 07 Sep 2005 14:59 GMT
> My chiropractor showed me the pressure points on my hands; she also has done
> pressure points on my forehead and sinus area.  The forehead/sinus
> pressure-point treatment seems to give me a headache.  Probably this is
> because it is moving stuff around, but for the most part I stick with doing
> the thumb/forefinger pressure points myself.

I don't see how that can work, since there is no direct neural pathway
from your hands to your sinuses.  The nerves in your hands, of course,
are connected to your spinal cord, which runs upward to the brain,
bypassing the sinus cavities.

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pellmellwillynilly@hotmail.com - 10 Sep 2005 21:11 GMT
> > My chiropractor showed me the pressure points on my hands; she also has done
> > pressure points on my forehead and sinus area.  The forehead/sinus
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There is at least one place on my body from which I do not believe
there are any direct neural pathways to another place but from which I
can feel a distinct (and annoying) connection to that other place when
the first place is touched. The place that's touched is one of several
Chinese trigger points for the other place. My conclusion is that
western physical medicine doesn't have all the answers, and there's at
least something credible in those physically unfindable Chinese
connections.
pellmellwillynilly@hotmail.com - 10 Sep 2005 21:16 GMT
> > My chiropractor showed me the pressure points on my hands; she also has done
> > pressure points on my forehead and sinus area.  The forehead/sinus
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There is at least one place on my body from which I do not believe
there are any direct neural pathways to another place but from which I
can feel a distinct (and annoying) connection to that other place when
the first place is touched. The place that's touched is one of several
Chinese trigger points for the other place. My conclusion is that
western physical medicine doesn't have all the answers, and there's at
least something credible in those physically unfindable Chinese
connections.
pellmellwillynilly@hotmail.com - 10 Sep 2005 21:16 GMT
> > My chiropractor showed me the pressure points on my hands; she also has done
> > pressure points on my forehead and sinus area.  The forehead/sinus
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me.

There is at least one place on my body from which I do not believe
there are any direct neural pathways to another place but from which I
can feel a distinct (and annoying) connection to that other place when
the first place is touched. The place that's touched is one of several
Chinese trigger points for the other place. My conclusion is that
western physical medicine doesn't have all the answers, and there's at
least something credible in those physically unfindable Chinese
connections.
connie - 11 Sep 2005 04:52 GMT
SO, I guess the National Institue of Health doesn't know what they are
talking about?

1: J Manipulative Physiol Ther. 1995 Jan;18(1):38-41. Related Articles,
Links

Nasal specific technique as part of a chiropractic approach to chronic
sinusitis and sinus headaches.

Folweiler DS, Lynch OT.

Faculty, Western States Chiropractic College, Portland, OR, USA.

OBJECTIVE: To demonstrate the use of nasal specific technique in
conjunction with other chiropractic interventions in managing chronic
head pain. CLINIC FEATURES: A 41-yr-old woman was treated for chronic
sinusitis and sinus headaches. She had suffered weight loss and pain
over a 2-month period. INTERVENTION AND OUTCOME: Chiropractic
manipulation and soft tissue manipulation administered 2-6 times per
month for approximately 1 yr had minimal long-term effect on the
patient's head pain. When additional interventions (nasal specific
technique and light force cranial adjusting) were added to the
treatment regimen, significant relief of symptoms was achieved after
the nasal specific technique was performed. The duration of the relief
increased with successive therapeutic sessions, with minimally
persistent symptoms after 2 months of therapy. CONCLUSION: The nasal
specific technique, when used in conjunction with other therapies, may
be useful in treating chronic sinus inflammation and pain. Further
investigation is needed to identify the usefulness of the nasal
specific technique as an independent intervention, the use of the
technique in other types of patients and presentations, and the
mechanism of therapeutic benefit.

Publication Types:
Case Reports

PMID: 7706959 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
Murray Grossan - 11 Sep 2005 18:31 GMT
On 9/10/05 8:52 PM, in article
1126410745.615314.169160@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com, "connie"
<cgotowala@aol.com> wrote:

> SO, I guess the National Institue of Health doesn't know what they are
> talking about?
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>
> PMID: 7706959 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

A. did they have sinusitis as defined by a bacterial / viral infection
involving the sinus cavities over a two week period
B In conjunction with other therapies.  Yes, I would like my patients to
have foot massage in conjunction with other therapies. Which insurance
company pays for this?
Steven L. - 12 Sep 2005 14:40 GMT
> On 9/10/05 8:52 PM, in article
> 1126410745.615314.169160@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com, "connie"
[quoted text clipped - 40 lines]
> A. did they have sinusitis as defined by a bacterial / viral infection
> involving the sinus cavities over a two week period

At the risk of changing the subject:  It is highly likely that a viral
common cold will infect the sinuses, and an ordinary cold can last two
weeks.  Thus your definition suggests that short-term acute sinusitis is
an inevitable accompaniment to a common cold.

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Susan - 11 Sep 2005 19:19 GMT
This citation is from a chiropractic college and a related journal.  If
there's an NIH connection, I've missed it.  The national library of
medicine catalogs a lot of literature, crappy and otherwise.

Susan

> SO, I guess the National Institue of Health doesn't know what they are
> talking about?
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>
> PMID: 7706959 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
pellmellwillynilly@hotmail.com - 13 Sep 2005 05:25 GMT
> SO, I guess the National Institue of Health doesn't know what they are
> talking about?
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
>
> PMID: 7706959 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

Am I missing something in the above? I see nothing indicating that the
case report cited here came out of the National Institute(s) of Health
or that its conclusions were supported by the NIH. It's just the
abstract of an article from a (probably chiropractic) journal. Is the
NIH involved here?
Mike Murray - 20 Sep 2005 01:29 GMT
>SO, I guess the National Institue of Health doesn't know what they are
>talking about?

>When additional interventions (nasal specific
>technique and light force cranial adjusting) were added to the
>treatment regimen, significant relief of symptoms was achieved after
>the nasal specific technique was performed.

When they mention "nasal specific technique" or "cranial adjusting",
are they referring to pressure points on the hands ?  
mevangelista_dc - 23 Aug 2007 17:51 GMT
Nasal Specific Technique involves treatment in the nasal passage specifically
in the turbinates with a small balloon.
Chiropractors can do more than just spinal adjustments. There are many
chiropractic specialties such as Pediatrics, Orthopedics, Nutrition, Internal
Medicine, Radiology, etc.

>>SO, I guess the National Institue of Health doesn't know what they are
>>talking about?
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>When they mention "nasal specific technique" or "cranial adjusting",
>are they referring to pressure points on the hands ?
connie - 11 Sep 2005 04:52 GMT
SO, I guess the National Institue of Health doesn't know what they are
talking about?

1: J Manipulative Physiol Ther. 1995 Jan;18(1):38-41. Related Articles,
Links

Nasal specific technique as part of a chiropractic approach to chronic
sinusitis and sinus headaches.

Folweiler DS, Lynch OT.

Faculty, Western States Chiropractic College, Portland, OR, USA.

OBJECTIVE: To demonstrate the use of nasal specific technique in
conjunction with other chiropractic interventions in managing chronic
head pain. CLINIC FEATURES: A 41-yr-old woman was treated for chronic
sinusitis and sinus headaches. She had suffered weight loss and pain
over a 2-month period. INTERVENTION AND OUTCOME: Chiropractic
manipulation and soft tissue manipulation administered 2-6 times per
month for approximately 1 yr had minimal long-term effect on the
patient's head pain. When additional interventions (nasal specific
technique and light force cranial adjusting) were added to the
treatment regimen, significant relief of symptoms was achieved after
the nasal specific technique was performed. The duration of the relief
increased with successive therapeutic sessions, with minimally
persistent symptoms after 2 months of therapy. CONCLUSION: The nasal
specific technique, when used in conjunction with other therapies, may
be useful in treating chronic sinus inflammation and pain. Further
investigation is needed to identify the usefulness of the nasal
specific technique as an independent intervention, the use of the
technique in other types of patients and presentations, and the
mechanism of therapeutic benefit.

Publication Types:
Case Reports

PMID: 7706959 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
Steven L. - 11 Sep 2005 13:07 GMT
> SO, I guess the National Institue of Health doesn't know what they are
> talking about?
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
>
> PMID: 7706959 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

This was obviously not a controlled experiment, so the placebo effect
cannot be discounted.

And this paper was published in a chiropractic journal, whose reviewers
I would suspect would be sympathetic to papers suggesting how effective
chiropractic can be.

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connie - 11 Sep 2005 04:52 GMT
SO, I guess the National Institue of Health doesn't know what they are
talking about?

1: J Manipulative Physiol Ther. 1995 Jan;18(1):38-41. Related Articles,
Links

Nasal specific technique as part of a chiropractic approach to chronic
sinusitis and sinus headaches.

Folweiler DS, Lynch OT.

Faculty, Western States Chiropractic College, Portland, OR, USA.

OBJECTIVE: To demonstrate the use of nasal specific technique in
conjunction with other chiropractic interventions in managing chronic
head pain. CLINIC FEATURES: A 41-yr-old woman was treated for chronic
sinusitis and sinus headaches. She had suffered weight loss and pain
over a 2-month period. INTERVENTION AND OUTCOME: Chiropractic
manipulation and soft tissue manipulation administered 2-6 times per
month for approximately 1 yr had minimal long-term effect on the
patient's head pain. When additional interventions (nasal specific
technique and light force cranial adjusting) were added to the
treatment regimen, significant relief of symptoms was achieved after
the nasal specific technique was performed. The duration of the relief
increased with successive therapeutic sessions, with minimally
persistent symptoms after 2 months of therapy. CONCLUSION: The nasal
specific technique, when used in conjunction with other therapies, may
be useful in treating chronic sinus inflammation and pain. Further
investigation is needed to identify the usefulness of the nasal
specific technique as an independent intervention, the use of the
technique in other types of patients and presentations, and the
mechanism of therapeutic benefit.

Publication Types:
Case Reports

PMID: 7706959 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
connie - 11 Sep 2005 04:52 GMT
SO, I guess the National Institue of Health doesn't know what they are
talking about?

1: J Manipulative Physiol Ther. 1995 Jan;18(1):38-41. Related Articles,
Links

Nasal specific technique as part of a chiropractic approach to chronic
sinusitis and sinus headaches.

Folweiler DS, Lynch OT.

Faculty, Western States Chiropractic College, Portland, OR, USA.

OBJECTIVE: To demonstrate the use of nasal specific technique in
conjunction with other chiropractic interventions in managing chronic
head pain. CLINIC FEATURES: A 41-yr-old woman was treated for chronic
sinusitis and sinus headaches. She had suffered weight loss and pain
over a 2-month period. INTERVENTION AND OUTCOME: Chiropractic
manipulation and soft tissue manipulation administered 2-6 times per
month for approximately 1 yr had minimal long-term effect on the
patient's head pain. When additional interventions (nasal specific
technique and light force cranial adjusting) were added to the
treatment regimen, significant relief of symptoms was achieved after
the nasal specific technique was performed. The duration of the relief
increased with successive therapeutic sessions, with minimally
persistent symptoms after 2 months of therapy. CONCLUSION: The nasal
specific technique, when used in conjunction with other therapies, may
be useful in treating chronic sinus inflammation and pain. Further
investigation is needed to identify the usefulness of the nasal
specific technique as an independent intervention, the use of the
technique in other types of patients and presentations, and the
mechanism of therapeutic benefit.

Publication Types:
Case Reports

PMID: 7706959 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
Don Brady - 11 Sep 2005 09:44 GMT
>1: J Manipulative Physiol Ther. 1995 Jan;18(1):38-41. Related Articles,
>Links
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>treatment regimen, significant relief of symptoms was achieved after
>the nasal specific technique was performed.

Do we know that

(a) the headaches were entirely sinus in origin (people use the term "sinus
headache" very loosely)?

(b) the relief really affected the course of sinusitis, as opposed to merely
making headaches less bothersome?

If this report ws based on one single person,  can we really attribute much if
any  significance to it?   It is just anectotal.  The headaches might have gone
away anyway for other reasons.

Sinusitis means inflammation or infection of the sinuses (not headaches) and
should be defined in terms of objective criteria based on CT scans.

Just relieving pain without affecting the sinusitis might be of value, but
would not address the underlying problem.
pellmellwillynilly@hotmail.com - 11 Aug 2005 02:58 GMT
> I am considering going to a chiropractor for my sinus problems. Does anyone
> know if it works? Thanks in advance.

I've seen chiropractors regularly for more than 20 years for spinal and
joint manipulation, with no noticeable effects on my sinuses. Perhaps
they would be worse without those years of care, but certainly they are
still problematic at times. Do you know what kind of work is done by
the chiropractor you're considering for sinuses? Some chiropractors
engage in practices considerably outside traditional manipulation.
Steven L. - 11 Aug 2005 03:30 GMT
> I am considering going to a chiropractor for my sinus problems. Does anyone
> know if it works? Thanks in advance.

The spine (which is what chiropractors manipulate) has absolutely
nothing to do with your sinuses.

Of course, neck pain is sometimes mistaken for sinus pain, and
chiropractors might be able to help your neck pain.

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Mike Murray - 20 Sep 2005 01:34 GMT
>> I am considering going to a chiropractor for my sinus problems. Does anyone
>> know if it works? Thanks in advance.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>Of course, neck pain is sometimes mistaken for sinus pain, and
>chiropractors might be able to help your neck pain.

It's like the guy looking for the lost dime under the streetlight.

My one and only chiropractic experience was for what turned out to be
frozen shoulder... which worsened significantly during the two-month
treatment regimen (consisting of heat packs and spinal manipulation,
to "treat the underlying cause").

When I finally wised up and was referred to a physical therapist by my
GP, it cleared up in a few weeks.
mevangelista_dc - 23 Aug 2007 17:31 GMT
Yes, it does work but the specific technique is called Nasal Specific
Technique or Endo Nasal technique. Find a chiropractor that does this either
an SOT practitioner or a DABCI will be able to help you with your sinus
problem. With the NST/ENT, the results are immediate and dramatic. My husband
has had this treatment and has vowed to not take the sinus/allergy meds again
and just have this done when he has flare-ups.

>I am considering going to a chiropractor for my sinus problems. Does anyone
>know if it works? Thanks in advance.
 
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