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Gary Mark Stocker - 09 Aug 2005 21:26 GMT I am considering going to a chiropractor for my sinus problems. Does anyone know if it works? Thanks in advance.
LesliKay - 11 Aug 2005 02:54 GMT > I am considering going to a chiropractor for my sinus problems. Does anyone > know if it works? Thanks in advance. You know, I used to go to a chiro a lot. I do believe that he helped my sinus problems. He has certain pressure points that he applied pressure to, got my neck good and loose, and it really helped. I may go again soon, as I forgot all about doing those treatments until I saw your post. Believe it or not, the pressure points that he treated were on my hands, between my thumb and forefinger. I do believe the chiro manipulation does work.....
Lesli
Amy Sargent - 07 Sep 2005 04:17 GMT My chiropractor showed me the pressure points on my hands; she also has done pressure points on my forehead and sinus area. The forehead/sinus pressure-point treatment seems to give me a headache. Probably this is because it is moving stuff around, but for the most part I stick with doing the thumb/forefinger pressure points myself.
"Gary Mark Stocker" wrote
> I am considering going to a chiropractor for my sinus problems. Does anyone
> know if it works? Thanks in advance. You know, I used to go to a chiro a lot. I do believe that he helped my sinus problems. He has certain pressure points that he applied pressure to, got my neck good and loose, and it really helped. I may go again soon, as I forgot all about doing those treatments until I saw your post. Believe it or not, the pressure points that he treated were on my hands, between my thumb and forefinger. I do believe the chiro manipulation does work.....
Lesli
Steven L. - 07 Sep 2005 14:59 GMT > My chiropractor showed me the pressure points on my hands; she also has done > pressure points on my forehead and sinus area. The forehead/sinus > pressure-point treatment seems to give me a headache. Probably this is > because it is moving stuff around, but for the most part I stick with doing > the thumb/forefinger pressure points myself. I don't see how that can work, since there is no direct neural pathway from your hands to your sinuses. The nerves in your hands, of course, are connected to your spinal cord, which runs upward to the brain, bypassing the sinus cavities.
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pellmellwillynilly@hotmail.com - 10 Sep 2005 21:11 GMT > > My chiropractor showed me the pressure points on my hands; she also has done > > pressure points on my forehead and sinus area. The forehead/sinus [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me. There is at least one place on my body from which I do not believe there are any direct neural pathways to another place but from which I can feel a distinct (and annoying) connection to that other place when the first place is touched. The place that's touched is one of several Chinese trigger points for the other place. My conclusion is that western physical medicine doesn't have all the answers, and there's at least something credible in those physically unfindable Chinese connections.
pellmellwillynilly@hotmail.com - 10 Sep 2005 21:16 GMT > > My chiropractor showed me the pressure points on my hands; she also has done > > pressure points on my forehead and sinus area. The forehead/sinus [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me. There is at least one place on my body from which I do not believe there are any direct neural pathways to another place but from which I can feel a distinct (and annoying) connection to that other place when the first place is touched. The place that's touched is one of several Chinese trigger points for the other place. My conclusion is that western physical medicine doesn't have all the answers, and there's at least something credible in those physically unfindable Chinese connections.
pellmellwillynilly@hotmail.com - 10 Sep 2005 21:16 GMT > > My chiropractor showed me the pressure points on my hands; she also has done > > pressure points on my forehead and sinus area. The forehead/sinus [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me. There is at least one place on my body from which I do not believe there are any direct neural pathways to another place but from which I can feel a distinct (and annoying) connection to that other place when the first place is touched. The place that's touched is one of several Chinese trigger points for the other place. My conclusion is that western physical medicine doesn't have all the answers, and there's at least something credible in those physically unfindable Chinese connections.
connie - 11 Sep 2005 04:52 GMT SO, I guess the National Institue of Health doesn't know what they are talking about?
1: J Manipulative Physiol Ther. 1995 Jan;18(1):38-41. Related Articles, Links
Nasal specific technique as part of a chiropractic approach to chronic sinusitis and sinus headaches.
Folweiler DS, Lynch OT.
Faculty, Western States Chiropractic College, Portland, OR, USA.
OBJECTIVE: To demonstrate the use of nasal specific technique in conjunction with other chiropractic interventions in managing chronic head pain. CLINIC FEATURES: A 41-yr-old woman was treated for chronic sinusitis and sinus headaches. She had suffered weight loss and pain over a 2-month period. INTERVENTION AND OUTCOME: Chiropractic manipulation and soft tissue manipulation administered 2-6 times per month for approximately 1 yr had minimal long-term effect on the patient's head pain. When additional interventions (nasal specific technique and light force cranial adjusting) were added to the treatment regimen, significant relief of symptoms was achieved after the nasal specific technique was performed. The duration of the relief increased with successive therapeutic sessions, with minimally persistent symptoms after 2 months of therapy. CONCLUSION: The nasal specific technique, when used in conjunction with other therapies, may be useful in treating chronic sinus inflammation and pain. Further investigation is needed to identify the usefulness of the nasal specific technique as an independent intervention, the use of the technique in other types of patients and presentations, and the mechanism of therapeutic benefit.
Publication Types: Case Reports
PMID: 7706959 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
Murray Grossan - 11 Sep 2005 18:31 GMT On 9/10/05 8:52 PM, in article 1126410745.615314.169160@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com, "connie" <cgotowala@aol.com> wrote:
> SO, I guess the National Institue of Health doesn't know what they are > talking about? [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > PMID: 7706959 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] A. did they have sinusitis as defined by a bacterial / viral infection involving the sinus cavities over a two week period B In conjunction with other therapies. Yes, I would like my patients to have foot massage in conjunction with other therapies. Which insurance company pays for this?
Steven L. - 12 Sep 2005 14:40 GMT > On 9/10/05 8:52 PM, in article > 1126410745.615314.169160@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com, "connie" [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > A. did they have sinusitis as defined by a bacterial / viral infection > involving the sinus cavities over a two week period At the risk of changing the subject: It is highly likely that a viral common cold will infect the sinuses, and an ordinary cold can last two weeks. Thus your definition suggests that short-term acute sinusitis is an inevitable accompaniment to a common cold.
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Susan - 11 Sep 2005 19:19 GMT This citation is from a chiropractic college and a related journal. If there's an NIH connection, I've missed it. The national library of medicine catalogs a lot of literature, crappy and otherwise.
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> SO, I guess the National Institue of Health doesn't know what they are > talking about? [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > PMID: 7706959 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] pellmellwillynilly@hotmail.com - 13 Sep 2005 05:25 GMT > SO, I guess the National Institue of Health doesn't know what they are > talking about? [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > PMID: 7706959 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] Am I missing something in the above? I see nothing indicating that the case report cited here came out of the National Institute(s) of Health or that its conclusions were supported by the NIH. It's just the abstract of an article from a (probably chiropractic) journal. Is the NIH involved here?
Mike Murray - 20 Sep 2005 01:29 GMT >SO, I guess the National Institue of Health doesn't know what they are >talking about?
>When additional interventions (nasal specific >technique and light force cranial adjusting) were added to the >treatment regimen, significant relief of symptoms was achieved after >the nasal specific technique was performed. When they mention "nasal specific technique" or "cranial adjusting", are they referring to pressure points on the hands ?
mevangelista_dc - 23 Aug 2007 17:51 GMT Nasal Specific Technique involves treatment in the nasal passage specifically in the turbinates with a small balloon. Chiropractors can do more than just spinal adjustments. There are many chiropractic specialties such as Pediatrics, Orthopedics, Nutrition, Internal Medicine, Radiology, etc.
>>SO, I guess the National Institue of Health doesn't know what they are >>talking about? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >When they mention "nasal specific technique" or "cranial adjusting", >are they referring to pressure points on the hands ? connie - 11 Sep 2005 04:52 GMT SO, I guess the National Institue of Health doesn't know what they are talking about?
1: J Manipulative Physiol Ther. 1995 Jan;18(1):38-41. Related Articles, Links
Nasal specific technique as part of a chiropractic approach to chronic sinusitis and sinus headaches.
Folweiler DS, Lynch OT.
Faculty, Western States Chiropractic College, Portland, OR, USA.
OBJECTIVE: To demonstrate the use of nasal specific technique in conjunction with other chiropractic interventions in managing chronic head pain. CLINIC FEATURES: A 41-yr-old woman was treated for chronic sinusitis and sinus headaches. She had suffered weight loss and pain over a 2-month period. INTERVENTION AND OUTCOME: Chiropractic manipulation and soft tissue manipulation administered 2-6 times per month for approximately 1 yr had minimal long-term effect on the patient's head pain. When additional interventions (nasal specific technique and light force cranial adjusting) were added to the treatment regimen, significant relief of symptoms was achieved after the nasal specific technique was performed. The duration of the relief increased with successive therapeutic sessions, with minimally persistent symptoms after 2 months of therapy. CONCLUSION: The nasal specific technique, when used in conjunction with other therapies, may be useful in treating chronic sinus inflammation and pain. Further investigation is needed to identify the usefulness of the nasal specific technique as an independent intervention, the use of the technique in other types of patients and presentations, and the mechanism of therapeutic benefit.
Publication Types: Case Reports
PMID: 7706959 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
Steven L. - 11 Sep 2005 13:07 GMT > SO, I guess the National Institue of Health doesn't know what they are > talking about? [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > PMID: 7706959 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] This was obviously not a controlled experiment, so the placebo effect cannot be discounted.
And this paper was published in a chiropractic journal, whose reviewers I would suspect would be sympathetic to papers suggesting how effective chiropractic can be.
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connie - 11 Sep 2005 04:52 GMT SO, I guess the National Institue of Health doesn't know what they are talking about?
1: J Manipulative Physiol Ther. 1995 Jan;18(1):38-41. Related Articles, Links
Nasal specific technique as part of a chiropractic approach to chronic sinusitis and sinus headaches.
Folweiler DS, Lynch OT.
Faculty, Western States Chiropractic College, Portland, OR, USA.
OBJECTIVE: To demonstrate the use of nasal specific technique in conjunction with other chiropractic interventions in managing chronic head pain. CLINIC FEATURES: A 41-yr-old woman was treated for chronic sinusitis and sinus headaches. She had suffered weight loss and pain over a 2-month period. INTERVENTION AND OUTCOME: Chiropractic manipulation and soft tissue manipulation administered 2-6 times per month for approximately 1 yr had minimal long-term effect on the patient's head pain. When additional interventions (nasal specific technique and light force cranial adjusting) were added to the treatment regimen, significant relief of symptoms was achieved after the nasal specific technique was performed. The duration of the relief increased with successive therapeutic sessions, with minimally persistent symptoms after 2 months of therapy. CONCLUSION: The nasal specific technique, when used in conjunction with other therapies, may be useful in treating chronic sinus inflammation and pain. Further investigation is needed to identify the usefulness of the nasal specific technique as an independent intervention, the use of the technique in other types of patients and presentations, and the mechanism of therapeutic benefit.
Publication Types: Case Reports
PMID: 7706959 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
connie - 11 Sep 2005 04:52 GMT SO, I guess the National Institue of Health doesn't know what they are talking about?
1: J Manipulative Physiol Ther. 1995 Jan;18(1):38-41. Related Articles, Links
Nasal specific technique as part of a chiropractic approach to chronic sinusitis and sinus headaches.
Folweiler DS, Lynch OT.
Faculty, Western States Chiropractic College, Portland, OR, USA.
OBJECTIVE: To demonstrate the use of nasal specific technique in conjunction with other chiropractic interventions in managing chronic head pain. CLINIC FEATURES: A 41-yr-old woman was treated for chronic sinusitis and sinus headaches. She had suffered weight loss and pain over a 2-month period. INTERVENTION AND OUTCOME: Chiropractic manipulation and soft tissue manipulation administered 2-6 times per month for approximately 1 yr had minimal long-term effect on the patient's head pain. When additional interventions (nasal specific technique and light force cranial adjusting) were added to the treatment regimen, significant relief of symptoms was achieved after the nasal specific technique was performed. The duration of the relief increased with successive therapeutic sessions, with minimally persistent symptoms after 2 months of therapy. CONCLUSION: The nasal specific technique, when used in conjunction with other therapies, may be useful in treating chronic sinus inflammation and pain. Further investigation is needed to identify the usefulness of the nasal specific technique as an independent intervention, the use of the technique in other types of patients and presentations, and the mechanism of therapeutic benefit.
Publication Types: Case Reports
PMID: 7706959 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
Don Brady - 11 Sep 2005 09:44 GMT >1: J Manipulative Physiol Ther. 1995 Jan;18(1):38-41. Related Articles, >Links [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >treatment regimen, significant relief of symptoms was achieved after >the nasal specific technique was performed. Do we know that
(a) the headaches were entirely sinus in origin (people use the term "sinus headache" very loosely)?
(b) the relief really affected the course of sinusitis, as opposed to merely making headaches less bothersome?
If this report ws based on one single person, can we really attribute much if any significance to it? It is just anectotal. The headaches might have gone away anyway for other reasons.
Sinusitis means inflammation or infection of the sinuses (not headaches) and should be defined in terms of objective criteria based on CT scans.
Just relieving pain without affecting the sinusitis might be of value, but would not address the underlying problem.
pellmellwillynilly@hotmail.com - 11 Aug 2005 02:58 GMT > I am considering going to a chiropractor for my sinus problems. Does anyone > know if it works? Thanks in advance. I've seen chiropractors regularly for more than 20 years for spinal and joint manipulation, with no noticeable effects on my sinuses. Perhaps they would be worse without those years of care, but certainly they are still problematic at times. Do you know what kind of work is done by the chiropractor you're considering for sinuses? Some chiropractors engage in practices considerably outside traditional manipulation.
Steven L. - 11 Aug 2005 03:30 GMT > I am considering going to a chiropractor for my sinus problems. Does anyone > know if it works? Thanks in advance. The spine (which is what chiropractors manipulate) has absolutely nothing to do with your sinuses.
Of course, neck pain is sometimes mistaken for sinus pain, and chiropractors might be able to help your neck pain.
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Mike Murray - 20 Sep 2005 01:34 GMT >> I am considering going to a chiropractor for my sinus problems. Does anyone >> know if it works? Thanks in advance. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Of course, neck pain is sometimes mistaken for sinus pain, and >chiropractors might be able to help your neck pain. It's like the guy looking for the lost dime under the streetlight.
My one and only chiropractic experience was for what turned out to be frozen shoulder... which worsened significantly during the two-month treatment regimen (consisting of heat packs and spinal manipulation, to "treat the underlying cause").
When I finally wised up and was referred to a physical therapist by my GP, it cleared up in a few weeks.
mevangelista_dc - 23 Aug 2007 17:31 GMT Yes, it does work but the specific technique is called Nasal Specific Technique or Endo Nasal technique. Find a chiropractor that does this either an SOT practitioner or a DABCI will be able to help you with your sinus problem. With the NST/ENT, the results are immediate and dramatic. My husband has had this treatment and has vowed to not take the sinus/allergy meds again and just have this done when he has flare-ups.
>I am considering going to a chiropractor for my sinus problems. Does anyone >know if it works? Thanks in advance.
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