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Sinus blokage. Polyps or turbinates?

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DD DDD - 27 May 2005 05:55 GMT
I was doing great for a year now. I got off milk and wine. I kept my
humidity at about 35% no higher. (to keep dustmites and mold down) Then
I had a cold 2 weeks ago and whamm. I had to you nose spray and got
rebound affect. Now Im off it and I better. This was a close call.
Normally I would have a sinus infection . I do have some yellow
discharge. And coughed up grey junk. But the cold is gone but still took
another week to get the nose open about 50% on each side. I have a
slight deviated septum. And some polyps. The Dr wanted septum straight
and turbinates and polyps removed. last year. I declined. I just cant
see why all 3 have to be done when another Dr said the septum is not
that bad. and he needed to know what is glogging me. He said he can see
the left side polyps. But why do Dr want to do all 3. Is it money? How
does one know if its polyps or turbinates that cause the blocking? When
I say blocking its about 90% blocked. It also alternates when its better
from left to right. So what do you all think? Last year I changed the
carpet put in 3 hepa filters, kept humidity at 35%. Cleaned the ducts
got off wine and milk and within 3 weeks I was good. I only have
problems if I get a cold or if the air quality is poor. Do polyps swell
from a cold? And turbinates also? I hate to have surgery for something I
dont need. But I will if It works. Secound Dr said the same thing but he
seen my catscan from the first DR so its a game there. Should I try a
third Dr and just say nothing about the previous Doctors?  Sorry so
long... Thank you
Don Brady - 27 May 2005 13:31 GMT
>I was doing great for a year now. I got off milk and wine. I kept my
>humidity at about 35% no higher. (to keep dustmites and mold down) Then
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>He said he can see
>the left side polyps. But why do Dr want to do all 3.

Well if the turbinates are blocking and so are the polyps, they both need to be
addresssed.

Make sure you only do sub-mucus turbinate resunction, not removal or excessive
reduction.

They want to have the best chance of success by addressing all issues.

Often it is necessary to do minimal straighening of the septum also to
facilitate their use of the endoscope.

I agree that you would not want excessive surgery on the septum.
> Is it money? How
>does one know if its polyps or turbinates that cause the blocking?

A CT scan.
> When
>I say blocking its about 90% blocked. It also alternates when its better
>from left to right.
The alternation is normal.

> So what do you all think? Last year I changed the
>carpet put in 3 hepa filters, kept humidity at 35%. Cleaned the ducts
>got off wine and milk and within 3 weeks I was good. I only have
>problems if I get a cold or if the air quality is poor.

Well you might not need surgery then or at least can take your time.

Is it improving still?

>Do polyps swell
>from a cold? And turbinates also?
Yes they can.
>I hate to have surgery for something I
>dont need. But I will if It works. Secound Dr said the same thing but he
>seen my catscan from the first DR so its a game there. Should I try a
>third Dr
You can.   They are used to people getting multiple opinions.  The can pretty
well figure it out anyway from teh way you talk about it etc. as as well as the
CT scans.   I would not get another CT scan if you have one - just bring it.

But I think it is very important to choose a surgeon who is very experienced.
Often (but not always)  these are in amjor University medical centers.

>and just say nothing about the previous Doctors?  
Murray Grossan - 29 May 2005 19:00 GMT
On 5/27/05 5:31 AM, in article dr2e911qbkq1r9m3qih39mt6ar8ktu329f@4ax.com,

>> I was doing great for a year now. I got off milk and wine. I kept my
>> humidity at about 35% no higher. (to keep dustmites and mold down) Then
[quoted text clipped - 45 lines]
> Yes they can.
>> I hate to have surgery for something I
Here is the problem from the surgeon's point of view.
Patient has a deviated septum - not 100%, he has antrum blockage, he has
enlarged turbinates. He has some polyps.
Its is fine to try all manners of medical treatment, but according to the
films, when you get through, he still has antrum blockage. So, after weeks
or longer of Rx you still have to do the surgery to prevent further disease.
It is poor medicine to put someone through months of Rx needlessly.

If you are going to open the antrum you don't really have to do the
turbinates and the septum. BUT, what if months later the patient still has
problems and you decide you should have done the septum and the turbinates?
How do you feel about bringing the patient back to surgery with the ENORMOUS
expense, etc etc. because you made the wrong decision and didn't do the
turbinates?
The name of the game is to do as little surgery as possible, getting the
patient well, but you also don't want to end up doing a second surgery
because you, essentially, failed the patient.
For most surgeons, the "additional surgery " is done because we don't want
the patient to have to return for a second trip to the OR. So, we do the
turbinates in order to avoid this possibility. The septum is a tough call.
Many patients get along fine with some deviation. But you have to decide, if
you are doing other surgery, whether its best to leave the septum deviated
and risk another surgery some day, or not.
I have done many adenoid surgeries and left the tonsils because I felt
tonsil surgery wasn't needed, despite the protest of the parents to do both.
Occasionally I made the wrong choice Fortunately, not often.
Murray Grossan - 28 May 2005 22:53 GMT
On 5/26/05 9:55 PM, in article
8199-4296A840-286@storefull-3355.bay.webtv.net, "DD DDD" <eee2004@webtv.net>
wrote:

> I was doing great for a year now. I got off milk and wine. I kept my
> humidity at about 35% no higher. (to keep dustmites and mold down) Then
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> third Dr and just say nothing about the previous Doctors?  Sorry so
> long... Thank you

Whoever has the CT scan, you should make an appointment and have the doctor
explain exactly what the CT shows so that you fully understand it.

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