Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Sinusitis / May 2005
Newbie to HydroPulse
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Sue777 - 21 May 2005 21:22 GMT OK, I used a neti pot for a couple of months and decided that I do think I like the results, I've had fewer headaches. That could be coincidence, or it could be a result of irrigating regularly, but I figured if irrigating can't hurt and MIGHT help, it's worth doing. But I have two questions about the use of my new HydroPulse:
1. I'm thrilled that it doesn't take as long to irrigate using the HydroPulse as it did the neti pot, but it seems like it's over almost TOO quickly. I barely had one side done before the container was empty and I had to mix another batch for the other nostril. Today when I used it again, I felt the same way and used two batches. It's all over within a minute, and I am used to it taking SEVERAL minutes to run the contents of the neti pot through my nose. I really think doing it longer is probably better, but I don't want to go through 4 or more packets of the additive in one day!
2. I woke up without a headache this morning, which I found to be a pleasant surprise. After being up a few hours I started to feel one coming on, so I went up to irrigate to "head it off at the pass". I actually think it might have made things worse, because now it IS a fullblown headache. Maybe it would have been even if I didn't irrigate, but I'm very disapointed that it didn't work to stop the headache like I had hoped. Is this because I'm new and I've still got lots of blocked mucous way up deep that isn't draining yet? Maybe the water pressure actually packed it up there tighter?
Any thoughts would be appreciated. Sue
Steven L. - 22 May 2005 01:17 GMT > OK, I used a neti pot for a couple of months and decided that I do > think I like the results, I've had fewer headaches. That could be [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > longer is probably better, but I don't want to go through 4 or more > packets of the additive in one day! I too have found the 16 ounces in the HydroPulse tank to be insufficient when my sinuses are acting up. To save money, it's cheaper to mix your own additive. Ordinary plain table salt will do--I haven't noticed any problems from the slightly incorrect pH balance.
> 2. I woke up without a headache this morning, which I found to be a > pleasant surprise. After being up a few hours I started to feel one [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > lots of blocked mucous way up deep that isn't draining yet? Maybe the > water pressure actually packed it up there tighter? it could be the latter. Try using a lower setting on the Hydropulse.
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Murray Grossan - 22 May 2005 19:13 GMT On 5/21/05 5:17 PM, in article NcQje.4171$X92.1111@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net, "Steven L." <sdlitvin@earthlinkNOSPAM.net> wrote:
>> OK, I used a neti pot for a couple of months and decided that I do >> think I like the results, I've had fewer headaches. That could be [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > it could be the latter. Try using a lower setting on the Hydropulse. Steve is right, again. There is no problem with using plain salt - one teaspoon of salt to the 500 cc of the Hydro Pulse basin with a 1/4 teaspoon of baking soda for some. Breathe.ease XL is primarily for those with painful, irritated nasal membranes and some persons do better with it. Sinus as a cause of headache is actually an uncommon factor. Much more common is the neck, neck muscles, or even the circulation. For example, Migraine is a condition of spasm of the blood vessels, followed by extreme dilatation. Many persons help their headaches by neck massage, shower massage to the back of the neck, etc - see www.ent-consult.com
Sue777 - 22 May 2005 19:27 GMT Wow... this last post really shocked me, as I thought "sinus" and "headache" were often used together. I'm not doubting what you say, I'm just very surprised, because I thought sinus headaches were a very COMMON thing, not an uncommon one. Thanks for the "recipe" on solution. I have a brand new bocx of XL, but when that is gone, I'll try salt. Sue
Susan - 22 May 2005 19:33 GMT > Wow... this last post really shocked me, as I thought "sinus" and > "headache" were often used together. I'm not doubting what you say, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > try salt. > Sue My experience is that sinus inflammation and headache are very closely linked for me. Inflamed and infected ethmoid sinus is the only trigger I have for migraines. Untreated allergies cause aching in my frontal sinuses.
Susan
Steven L. - 22 May 2005 22:55 GMT > x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > linked for me. Inflamed and infected ethmoid sinus is the only trigger I > have for migraines. Me too. I never had migraines in my entire *life* until I developed chronic sinusitis. Then I started getting classic migraines, complete with auras (those scintillating scotomas blocking my vision).
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Sue777 - 23 May 2005 02:55 GMT Thank you Susan and Steve..... I'm finding comfort in the fact that I'm not the only one suffering from this "uncommon factor". :)
Sue
Murray Grossan - 23 May 2005 06:43 GMT On 5/22/05 2:57 PM, in article mf7ke.4951$Lc1.4916@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net, "Steven L." <sdlitvin@earthlinkNOSPAM.net> wrote:
>> x-no-archive: yes >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > sinusitis. Then I started getting classic migraines, complete with > auras (those scintillating scotomas blocking my vision). If you are having true migraine, it is not from the sinueses. Have you tried daily shower hard to the neck, turning extremely to the right and left slowly for 4-5 minutes? Sometimes this clears the migraine. Also if you are taking niacin in your vitamins that can be a trigger as a vasodilator. Details at my web site.
Susan - 23 May 2005 15:15 GMT > If you are having true migraine, it is not from the sinueses. > Have you tried daily shower hard to the neck, turning extremely to the right > and left slowly for 4-5 minutes? Sometimes this clears the migraine. > Also if you are taking niacin in your vitamins that can be a trigger as a > vasodilator. Details at my web site. I don't know if it's "true migraine" or not. For me, the vomiting, pain behind my right eye (side of infection), top of my head exploding and day long weakness are just like migraine, so I call it sinus migraine. Antibiotics got rid of my migraines years ago, then my sinuses got worse. Only diff I can see is that I don't require a dark, silent room, and I have no aura or visual disturbance other than focus problems.
Susan
Don Brady - 23 May 2005 10:06 GMT >I never had migraines in my entire *life* until I developed chronic >sinusitis. Then I started getting classic migraines, complete with >auras (those scintillating scotomas blocking my vision). The migraines and the sinusitis could have a common cause (e.g poor blood circulation to that area).
Murray Grossan - 22 May 2005 02:33 GMT On 5/21/05 1:25 PM, in article 1116707127.675546.211300@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com, "Sue777" <salexandre@cox.net> wrote:
> OK, I used a neti pot for a couple of months and decided that I do > think I like the results, I've had fewer headaches. That could be [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > Any thoughts would be appreciated. > Sue The Hydro Pulse irrigation is too fast?? Some people camplain that Hydro Pulse irrigation takes too much time! Are you using a stream almost an inch high? I think fast is a relative term. The amount of solution has little to do with the effect, its the pulsation that is the therapy.
Sue777 - 22 May 2005 17:32 GMT Yes, "fast" is a relative term. In my original post I had stated that it seemed "fast" as compared to when I was using the Neti pot to irrigate. That seemed to take forever to pass one potful of water through my sinuses. And I do understand that it's the pulsating action, NOT the solution that produces the desired effect, but when the 16 ounces of solution is gone, the pulsating is over, too. So the longer I can make the solution last, the longer I am exposed to the pulsating. I'll try turning down the pressure and seeing if that prolongs the irrigation time enough. Thanks. Sue
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