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Just over 2 weeks post-op, bad sinus infection

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Vic - 21 Mar 2005 23:05 GMT
I was doing well and last Friday started feeling bad, lethargic, very
congested and a horrible headache.  My doctor wasn't in so I couldn't see
him until today.  Sure enough, I have a really bad infection on the side the
surgery was done.  I was so disheartened but he gave me an antibiotic and
told me to take it for 10 days.  They also gave me THE SHOT in the rear that
usually helps.  I just wonder what could have caused this.  I haven't been
out in the weather or around any pollen, etc.  I haven't even left my house
since the surgery on March 3rd.

Am I doomed to have this crap forever?  I felt so good for many years after
my last sinus surgery.  I wasn't expecting an infection 2 weeks after this
one.

Has this happened to anyone else?
afdr9lk - 22 Mar 2005 03:43 GMT
> I was doing well and last Friday started feeling bad, lethargic, very
> congested and a horrible headache.  My doctor wasn't in so I couldn't see
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>
> Am I doomed to have this crap forever?

Yes.

> I felt so good for many years after
> my last sinus surgery.  I wasn't expecting an infection 2 weeks after this
> one.
>
> Has this happened to anyone else?

Yes.
Vic - 22 Mar 2005 13:34 GMT
> > I was doing well and last Friday started feeling bad, lethargic, very
> > congested and a horrible headache.  My doctor wasn't in so I couldn't see
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>
> Yes.

Would you mind elaborating a bit?  I would really appreciate some input.

Vicki
Steven L. - 23 Mar 2005 16:50 GMT
>>>I was doing well and last Friday started feeling bad, lethargic, very
>>>congested and a horrible headache.  My doctor wasn't in so I couldn't
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>
> Vicki

Don't listen to him.
Studies have shown that FESS has a cure rate of between 70% and 80%.
That means you have roughly a 3 out of 4 chance of being rid of
sinusitis permanently--if the surgery was done properly.

This NG tends to be a biased sample.  Here you will encounter folks like
me who are in the unlucky 1/4 of FESS patients for whom the surgery
provided only a partial cure.  Because those patients who were cured
have gone back to their lives and don't hang around here.

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Steven L. - 23 Mar 2005 16:48 GMT
> I was doing well and last Friday started feeling bad, lethargic, very
> congested and a horrible headache.  My doctor wasn't in so I couldn't see
> him until today.  Sure enough, I have a really bad infection on the side the
> surgery was done.  I was so disheartened but he gave me an antibiotic and
> told me to take it for 10 days.  They also gave me THE SHOT in the rear that
> usually helps.  I just wonder what could have caused this.  

It's quite common.  It happened to me too, after each of the two
surgeries I had.  Remember there is no way to maintain a sterile field
inside your nasopharynx when they operate.  The trauma of the surgery
damages your cilia which are your first line of defense against germs.
And after the surgery, all that dried blood makes a great growth medium
for bacteria.  The infection should clear as part of the healing process
of the surgery.

What's of more concern to me is that they didn't start you on
antibiotics immediately.  Weren't you on an antibiotic IV drip during
the surgery?  And didn't your ENT tell you to start taking oral
antibiotics the day after the surgery?  Mine did and he gave me 3 weeks'
worth.

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Vic - 23 Mar 2005 17:12 GMT
> > I was doing well and last Friday started feeling bad, lethargic, very
> > congested and a horrible headache.  My doctor wasn't in so I couldn't see
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> antibiotics the day after the surgery?  Mine did and he gave me 3 weeks'
> worth.

That has always puzzled me.  This is the second surgery this doctor has done
on me.  The last was 15 or so years ago.  I had one about 3 years prior to
that.  In all 3 surgeries I was never given any antibiotics.  When I see him
again, I am going to try to remember to ask why.  There must be some reason.

Thanks for your input.  I have been so upset about getting sick again so
soon after the surgery when I was feeling better.  This is my third day on
antibiotics, still having pain and still feel infected, if that makes any
sense.  I will be taking them a total of 10 days.  Hopefully there will be
relief soon.

Vicki
Steven L. - 23 Mar 2005 23:18 GMT
>>>I was doing well and last Friday started feeling bad, lethargic, very
>>>congested and a horrible headache.  My doctor wasn't in so I couldn't
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> sense.  I will be taking them a total of 10 days.  Hopefully there will be
> relief soon.

I hope so too.
BTW, there's an interesting story about the antibiotics on my last
surgery.  I'm allergic to the penicillins and the cephalosporins, so my
ENT was having trouble finding another IV antibiotic he could administer
during my surgery.

I came up with the right answer.  I told my ENT to inquire if the
dispensary had IV Cipro.  Since I take Levaquin safely, I knew I could
take Cipro.  And I knew the dispensary had to have IV Cipro in stock.
Because that's the first-line antibiotic treatment for a terrorist
anthrax attack, and all the Boston hospitals are stockpiling it now as
part of Homeland Security.

It turned out I was right.
So I had IV Cipro during my surgery.

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Vic - 24 Mar 2005 11:11 GMT
> >>>I was doing well and last Friday started feeling bad, lethargic, very
> >>>congested and a horrible headache.  My doctor wasn't in so I couldn't
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> It turned out I was right.
> So I had IV Cipro during my surgery.

That was great thinking, Steven.  Had I been given antibiotics during and
after surgery maybe I wouldn't be suffering right now.  This is day 4 on
antibiotics and I am still hurting.  He told me if I didn't feel a whole lot
better by Friday to call him.  If  I don't, I most certainly will.

Thanks for all of your positive input to me.

Vicki
ARoberts - 24 Mar 2005 12:17 GMT
> BTW, there's an interesting story about the antibiotics on my last
> surgery.  I'm allergic to the penicillins and the cephalosporins, so my
> ENT was having trouble finding another IV antibiotic he could administer
> during my surgery.

Didn't they have erythromycin?  I had so many IV bags of that during a
(presumed) bout of pneumonia that they had to ice my arms down from the
burning.  Of course, it wasn't pneumonia at all, but adult-onset asthma...
iamthezookeeper - 24 Mar 2005 14:48 GMT
Vicki...I had antibiotics before, during, and after all of my sinus
surgeries. Like Steve, I have many allergies to antibiotics, the only ones
I can take are called Quinolons. The site where the IV Tequin goes gets
pretty sore and red. I take a one month cycle of oral antibiotic after
surgery along with Diflucan because it always causes severe yeast
infections. I can't believe you didn't get these automatically. There is
also an antibiotic to put into your nasal wash called Gentamycin and it
works quite well. Some use the NeilMed squeeze bottle with sterile saline
and this and have found great results. This is Friday and I hope you are
feeling better by now. Let us know. Good luck. Trudy.
Steven L. - 25 Mar 2005 02:27 GMT
> Vicki...I had antibiotics before, during, and after all of my sinus
> surgeries. Like Steve, I have many allergies to antibiotics, the only ones
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> also an antibiotic to put into your nasal wash called Gentamycin and it
> works quite well.

CAUTION:  The Cleveland Clinic is one hospital that has recently stopped
using Gentamicin irrigation.  They have found that among their most
sensitive patients, enough Gentamicin is entering the bloodstream thru
the nose to cause very serious systemic effects (neurological).  They
have switched to recommending irrigation with an aqueous solution of
Bactroban.

> Some use the NeilMed squeeze bottle with sterile saline
> and this and have found great results.

I use it too, especially when I'm on travel and can't tote around my
Grossan irrigator.

But my ENT doesn't mind if I use tap water.  Tap water is safe in most
major metropolitan areas.

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Steven L. - 25 Mar 2005 02:24 GMT
>>BTW, there's an interesting story about the antibiotics on my last
>>surgery.  I'm allergic to the penicillins and the cephalosporins, so my
>>ENT was having trouble finding another IV antibiotic he could administer
>>during my surgery.
>
> Didn't they have erythromycin?  

Erythromycin is ineffective on sinus infections in adults, due to
insufficient coverage.

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Murray Grossan - 25 Mar 2005 04:15 GMT
On 3/24/05 3:17 AM, in article DMSdnQ9OXblIPN_fRVn-1Q@comcast.com,

>> BTW, there's an interesting story about the antibiotics on my last
>> surgery.  I'm allergic to the penicillins and the cephalosporins, so my
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> (presumed) bout of pneumonia that they had to ice my arms down from the
> burning.  Of course, it wasn't pneumonia at all, but adult-onset asthma...

Ask your doctor about administering the antibiotic via pulsatile irrigation.

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