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AlexM - 20 Feb 2005 20:24 GMT

Two questions about Dr. Grossan's products.

1) Can I soak spray bottle in bleach to clean/desinfect it ? I clean my
Hydro Pulse weekly in any way, hence the question. (I am not sure if the
bottle is bleach-resistant).

2) What could happen to HydroPulse irrigator if it is left with bleach
inside for more than 10 minutes ? (Well, it did actually happen, for half
an hour... It works fine afterwards, though).

AlexM

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Allen L. - 21 Feb 2005 01:44 GMT

> Two questions about Dr. Grossan's products.
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> AlexM

I've been using Dr. Grossan's products (at least the WaterPic adapters) for
about 6 or more years and on earlier posts to this group, some of us decided
that is really wasn't necessary to bleach/clean as often as suggested if
only one user is using the machine (in my case a WaterPic). In fact, I now
just rinse mine off with regular water as the bacteria that I'm leaving are
'mine' and will not infect me that much more than I am, *if* I am infected.
I might clean once every 6 months or so with bleach.

You can leave the bleach solution in for quite a while as long as it is
diluted...it will only possibly harm the hoses, and I'm not so sure if a
diluted solution would do that much damage to them if not left for a
extremely long time. Are you using the recommended very diluted bleach/water
formula? It's just a lot of hassle to clean the thing with bleach every week
in my opinion.

...Allen

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Steven L. - 21 Feb 2005 17:37 GMT

>>Two questions about Dr. Grossan's products.
>>
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> just rinse mine off with regular water as the bacteria that I'm leaving are
> 'mine'

That's not necessarily true.

The bacteria that get into the machine can be deposited there by
airborne dust or tap water (if you use tap water). Those bacteria
aren't "yours". We've had folks tell this NG that they got pseudomonas
infections from their machines. Pseudomonas is carried in non-distilled
water.

Louis Pasteur showed how even distilled water will be teeming with
bacteria after just a day or two--thanks to airborne dust particles
falling into the water.

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Allen L. - 21 Feb 2005 22:38 GMT

>>>Two questions about Dr. Grossan's products.
>>>
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>>>AlexM

Allen L. wrote:

>> I've been using Dr. Grossan's products (at least the WaterPic adapters)
>> for about 6 or more years and on earlier posts to this group, some of us
>> decided that is really wasn't necessary to bleach/clean as often as
>> suggested if only one user is using the machine (in my case a WaterPic).
>> In fact, I now just rinse mine off with regular water as the bacteria
>> that I'm leaving are 'mine'

> That's not necessarily true.
>
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> bacteria after just a day or two--thanks to airborne dust particles
> falling into the water.

I'm sure your correct Steven, as I was mainly speaking to the fact that I
use reverse osmosis water...(I know it will contain some impurities and
bacteria), but as I stated, some people a few years ago were doing what I
said. I guess if one used distilled water it would be fairly safe if the
machine were washed out good daily, but of course the bleach would be the
best. Although the bleach *is* a hassle, and a *bad* hassle with the wife,
if you splash it on the carpet. :-))

...Allen

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Murray Grossan - 22 Feb 2005 03:46 GMT

On 2/21/05 2:38 PM, in article 1qtSd.28663$Bx5.28437@fe1.texas.rr.com,

>>>> Two questions about Dr. Grossan's products.
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>
> ...Allen

About once a week you can run 3% hydrogen peroxide through the Hydro Pulse
machine and let it sit for two hours.
Place the nasal tip on the handle and place it into the reservoir. Add 200
cc of 3% peroxide. Run for a minute in and out - recirulating. Let it sit
for 2 hours then rinse.
For the nasal spray bottle you are better off washing it in detergent and
rinsing it well.,

You need to run some dilute vinegar through the machine about once every
week or two to remove any possible salt deposits.
Murray Grossan, M.D.

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Joe Faust - 01 Mar 2005 10:45 GMT

>About once a week you can run 3% hydrogen peroxide through the Hydro Pulse
>machine and let it sit for two hours.
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>week or two to remove any possible salt deposits.
>Murray Grossan, M.D.

I spoke with your customer service at Hydro Med last week regarding
diminshed output on a few months old Hydro Pulse. Even at maximum
output there is barely a 1/4 inch stream of water. I was asked if I am
using table salt or sea salt. When I responded sea salt I was told
that sea salt will clog the unit, and will require a factory repair or
exchange. Sent in my paperwork via fax and awaiting a response.

I find no mention of sea salt or table salt in the User Instruction
manual, just salt. Why no warning? What is the difference?

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Allen L. - 01 Mar 2005 12:05 GMT

>>top snipped<<

>> You need to run some dilute vinegar through the machine about once
>> every week or two to remove any possible salt deposits.
>> Murray Grossan, M.D.

In news:qkh8219dnm5u4mhr3lh85mrnimbnhd5os6@4ax.com,
Joe Faust <joe_faustNOSPAM@verizon.net> typed:

> I spoke with your customer service at Hydro Med last week regarding
> diminshed output on a few months old Hydro Pulse. Even at maximum
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> I find no mention of sea salt or table salt in the User Instruction
> manual, just salt. Why no warning? What is the difference?

Sea salt has impurities in it and that *might* be the cause. I used to use
it, but changed a few years ago to just regular non-iodized salt. The
iodized type (one everyone uses mainly) can cause some burning effects. I
also use a small amout of baking soda mixed in, and I think the baking soda
keeps the waterpic from clogging up...don't know about the Hydro Med, but
would assume it is about the same thing.

...Allen

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Murray Grossan - 01 Mar 2005 17:18 GMT

On 3/1/05 2:45 AM, in article qkh8219dnm5u4mhr3lh85mrnimbnhd5os6@4ax.com,

>> About once a week you can run 3% hydrogen peroxide through the Hydro Pulse
>> machine and let it sit for two hours.
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> I find no mention of sea salt or table salt in the User Instruction
> manual, just salt. Why no warning? What is the difference?

\After every irrigation, you must run clear water through the machine. Once
a week with vinegar is not sufficient.
The problem with sea salt is that it is evaporated ocean water. May contain
fish excreta, fish germs, etc.
In the Tsumani in Indonesia, one of their biggest problems is that cuts and
wounds were contaminated with sea water which led to infections that hadn't
been seen before and are hard to treat.
The contents of sea salt vary all over the place. You can buy special sea
salt at Gourmet Shops from favored regions which are "better" for taste.
Since I don't know what is in your bottle of sea salt, I don't advise it for
nasal / sinus irrigation.

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