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Killer Cabs Sales Team - 21 Dec 2004 18:06 GMT
I don't know if this exists in the US, but I'm sure it will by another name.

Its a sticky eucalyptus type gunk, with Levomenthol, camphor, turpentine
oil, thymol, nutmeg oil, cedarwood oil, white soft paraffin.

Now - if I put a huge wadge of this stuff on a T shirt before I go to sleep,
it really helps keep my passages clear (not totally but way better than
without) - and at some point in the night it must have been all inhaled as
it usually practically odourless in the morning.

It does say clearly on the pot that this is a method (on the chest actually)
for infants 6 months upwards.

I'm just curious to know if doing this every night is in any way harmful?
Are any of those things 'not good' to be inhaling for eight hours every
night? I have not noticed any harmful effects, to the contrary - only good
ones.

--

Tony
Tony Banana - 21 Dec 2004 19:19 GMT
It is available in the US as Vick's vapor rub or a generic form.

The bottle does say not to put it in your nostrils.  I'm not
sure why.  Maybe there is some kind of rebound effect.

I rub it above my eyebrows and below my eyes before
bed if my sinuses are really bad.  It does help to ease
the congestion at night.

A vaporizer or steam source will also help keep your
sinuses from drying out at night.

Tony
Ron - 21 Dec 2004 23:12 GMT
> Now - if I put a huge wadge of this stuff on a T shirt before I go to sleep,
> it really helps keep my passages clear (not totally but way better than
> without) - and at some point in the night it must have been all inhaled as
> it usually practically odourless in the morning.

I am just thinking here, if I put a wad of that stuff on a shirt and then went to bed with it,
with all the rolling around and turning over, I'd have Vick's Vaporub all over everything
and it would be a big mess. How do you keep from getting that stuff all over the place?
Killer Cabs Sales Team - 22 Dec 2004 18:01 GMT
That's a good question!!

I'm really not sure - I've not thought about it. I think it's consistency is
the key. It's quite 'stodgy', so if you tried to say, wipe a bit off with a
tissue, it's actually quite stubborn - you'd rub it in rather than off. It's
putty like - it's not 'wet' at all, more like chewing gum.

Perhaps the small amount that comes off just gets tranferred and breathed in
too - the sheets / pillow don't smell of it.

That's got me though I must confess! :)

--

Tony

> > Now - if I put a huge wadge of this stuff on a T shirt before I go to sleep,
> > it really helps keep my passages clear (not totally but way better than
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> with all the rolling around and turning over, I'd have Vick's Vaporub all over everything
> and it would be a big mess. How do you keep from getting that stuff all over the place?
ENTconsult - 23 Dec 2004 05:40 GMT
A recent study showed that Vick's Vapo Rub can be highly beneficial to nose and
chest.
Murray Grossan, M.D.
http://www.ent-consult.com
Tony Banana - 23 Dec 2004 13:49 GMT
>A recent study showed that Vick's Vapo Rub can be highly beneficial to nose
>and
> chest.
> Murray Grossan, M.D.
> http://www.ent-consult.com

Why do the instructions say not to place the vapor rub beneath your nostrils
?

Thanks,

Tony
Killer Cabs Sales Team - 23 Dec 2004 23:03 GMT
In the UK, it says not to place 'in the nostrils' - given it's consistency,
I'd say particularly with youngsters it's possibly to do with it blocking
the airway completely - it's very thick and 'paste' like and I would think
could block the nostrils entirely.

Just a guess.

--

Tony

> >A recent study showed that Vick's Vapo Rub can be highly beneficial to nose
> >and
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>
> Tony
Ron G - 23 Dec 2004 23:17 GMT
There was (is) concern that having it too close to the nose allows very tiny
oil droplets to enter the lungs. Lately, there were warnings about possible
permanent lung damage.

These are not the "fable" type warnings, they were published in the
newspapers, if I remember correctly.

Best----
Ron

> In the UK, it says not to place 'in the nostrils' - given it's consistency,
> I'd say particularly with youngsters it's possibly to do with it blocking
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> >
> > Tony
Tony Banana - 23 Dec 2004 23:42 GMT
> There was (is) concern that having it too close to the nose allows very
> tiny
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> Best----
> Ron

That's probably the reason.  I'll ask a doc that I know.
I have been told that mucus that builds up in the throat/nose
overnight tends to aspirate into the lungs.  That's why it's
best to use a humidifier and decongestants to keep any
bacteria/virus from working its way into the lungs
at night.

Tony
ENTconsult - 24 Dec 2004 03:09 GMT
Why do the instructions say not to place the vapor rub beneath your nostrils
they don't want it put inside the nose. If it is then it is considered a drug.
Murray Grossan, M.D.
http://www.ent-consult.com
Don Brady - 24 Dec 2004 03:27 GMT
>Why do the instructions say not to place the vapor rub beneath your nostrils
>they don't want it put inside the nose. If it is then it is considered a drug.
>Murray Grossan, M.D.
>http://www.ent-consult.com

Ah and then they would have to go through expensive trials to try to get FDA
approval......
Tony Banana - 24 Dec 2004 04:24 GMT
>>Why do the instructions say not to place the vapor rub beneath your
>>nostrils
________________________________________________________________
>>they don't want it put inside the nose. If it is then it is considered a
>>drug.
>>Murray Grossan, M.D.
>>http://www.ent-consult.com
________________________________________________________________

> Ah and then they would have to go through expensive trials to try to get
> FDA
> approval......
________________________________________________________________
It works well when placed right under the nostrils or even just rub
a little inside.

I wonder if Vicks has published any reports on potential problems
in doing this over the course of a common cold or even long
term for chronic sinusitis relief.

Vicks also sells those little inhalers where you directly sniff the
medication into your nostrils.  I don't think they needed FDA
approval for those little inhalers.

Tony
Randy Gamble - 24 Dec 2004 13:10 GMT
> Why do the instructions say not to place the vapor rub beneath your nostrils
> they don't want it put inside the nose. If it is then it is considered a drug.
> Murray Grossan, M.D.
> http://www.ent-consult.com

My ENT told me that is was to prevent the petroleum product from
entering the lungs.

Randy
ENTconsult - 07 Jan 2005 05:19 GMT
My ENT told me that is was to prevent the petroleum product from
entering the lungs.
that is true too, but the company is more concerned with FDA clamping down that
it is a drug.

Baby oil is great for preventing outer ear infection or swimmer's ear, yet I
can't get Johnoson's to recommend this for fear that FDA might accuse them of
having a drug.

Murray Grossan, M.D.
http://www.ent-consult.com
Steven L. - 22 Dec 2004 16:26 GMT
> I don't know if this exists in the US, but I'm sure it will by another name.
>
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> without) - and at some point in the night it must have been all inhaled as
> it usually practically odourless in the morning.

yes, I used to use it.
Here in the U.S., there are some competing products that are less
messy--one is a stick package (like a deodorant stick) and you rub it on
the same way you rub a deodorant on your underarms.

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Sue Donim - 23 Dec 2004 04:16 GMT
What is that product called?

>> I don't know if this exists in the US, but I'm sure it will by another
>> name.
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> messy--one is a stick package (like a deodorant stick) and you rub it on
> the same way you rub a deodorant on your underarms.
Steven L. - 24 Dec 2004 01:09 GMT
> What is that product called?

I'm sorry, I don't remember the name anymore.  If you go to a
well-equipped drugstore and look for Vicks VapoRub, you should see the
competing products listed right next to it.

>>>I don't know if this exists in the US, but I'm sure it will by another
>>>name.
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>>messy--one is a stick package (like a deodorant stick) and you rub it on
>>the same way you rub a deodorant on your underarms.

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