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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Sinusitis / November 2004sinusitis symptoms
I have been having some symptoms and I wanted to discuss them here. They have been with me for more than a year. I tried discussing them with a couple of physicians but they always diagnosed me with allergies. The allergy medicines never worked. My symptoms are as follows: I wake up not fully refreshed, sort of tired. There is repeated yawning for about 10 minutes after waking up. Water comes out of my eyes (5 to 6 drops from each eye). After yawning my head feels less stiff and I get a clearing feeling. If I dont yawn, then I feel less focused and fatigued. I dont get headaches. But my eyeballs feel a little soar. A couple of weeks ago, I went jogging, and when I bent down doing some exercise, there was a lot of light green colored drainage from my nose. I got the CT scan done and the doctor found left frontal and left maxillary sinusitis. The report says --"There is 2 mm mucosal thickening of the floor of the left frontal sinus. The right frontal sinus is clear. Ethmoid air cells are clear. The right maxillary antrum is clear. The sphenoid sinuses are clear. There is an air-fluid level in the left maxillary antrum, and there is near-complete opacification of the left maxillary antrum. Also there is slight nasal septal deviation to the left. I dont know what is slight but when I feel my nasal septum by Q tip, I feel quite a lot of difference between my left side and right side. The left side septum is has this weird bulge in it and I am amazed that I had never noticed it before. I took levaquin for 1 month. No improvement whatsoever. What should I do next? I just started nasal irrigation. I heard about some sinusbuster pepper spray. Is that good? Please give me some advice. >I have been having some symptoms and I wanted to discuss them here. >They have been with me for more than a year. I tried discussing them [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] >do next? I just started nasal irrigation. I heard about some >sinusbuster pepper spray. Is that good? Please give me some advice. You can try steroidal sprays (Flonase or Nasonex), Long term, you will probably have to make the indoor air clean of dust and mold in order to reverse the condition. I have been using Nasacort AQ for 1 month now - It showed no effect what so ever. Please give me some advice. Do I need to get surgery to make the septum in the right position. ? All the infection is on the left side and my septum has deviation to left - This means that air flow is blocked on the left side which is causing infection and blockage on the left side. Have any one tried natural therapies like irrigation etc? Are there any other natural therapies ? Has anyone seen good effect by yoga practice? Has anyone tried accupuncture? Also one more question? I was wondering how the maxillary sinuses drain. I mean they are in the cheek and how are they going to drain against gravity ? Can some one direct me to some source where I can get a good picture of the drainage passages ? I just want to know the physiology so that I can try to figure out a solution. > >I have been having some symptoms and I wanted to discuss them here. > >They have been with me for more than a year. I tried discussing them [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > Long term, you will probably have to make the indoor air clean of dust and mold > in order to reverse the condition. >I have been using Nasacort AQ for 1 month now - It showed no effect >what so ever. Make sure you are using it right. Spray away from the septum. >Please give me some advice. Do I need to get surgery to >make the septum in the right position. ? All the infection is on the >left side and my septum has deviation to left - This means that air >flow is blocked on the left side which is causing infection and >blockage on the left side. It depends how things look on a CT scan. The deviated septum may or may not be the original cause of the sinusitis. It is impossible to be sure. Usually sinusitis has at least two causes in an individual. Once you have chronic sinusitis, just straightening the septum may not be enough to correct it any more. It depends how far it is progressed. You need expert interpretation of a CT scan to be sure. I would get second opinions from seveveral different sinus specialists, at least one of whom should be at a major University medical center. >Have any one tried natural therapies like irrigation etc? Are there >any other natural therapies ? Has anyone seen good effect by yoga [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >drain. I mean they are in the cheek and how are they going to drain >against gravity ? Yes they have to drain upward. The hair-like cilia wash the mucus blanket upward. > Can some one direct me to some source where I can >get a good picture of the drainage passages ? I just want to know the >physiology so that I can try to figure out a solution. http://www.sinuses.com/toc.htm a. sounds like you have sleep apnea b. sounds like the maxiallary sinus is obstruced, blocked and if it is not opened, your symptoms may get worse. whatn the opening to the maxillary sinus is completely blocked, Irrigation may not help. Murray Grossan, M.D. http://www.ent-consult.com >>I have been having some symptoms and I wanted to discuss them here. >>They have been with me for more than a year. I tried discussing them [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > Long term, you will probably have to make the indoor air clean of dust and mold > in order to reverse the condition. Also she should try jogging in a non-polluted area. If she jogs along a road crowded with traffic, she's going to breathe in so much smog she might as well smoke cigarettes. If the outdoors is too polluted, she might as well buy a treadmill and exercise indoors.  SignatureSteven D. Litvintchouk Email: sdlitvin@earthlinkNOSPAM.net Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me. >Also she should try jogging in a non-polluted area. If she jogs along a >road crowded with traffic, she's going to breathe in so much smog she >might as well smoke cigarettes. Yes there were recent studies that showed that even driving to work every day increases the risk of a heart attack among susceptible individuals, because of the intake of pllution. >If the outdoors is too polluted, she might as well buy a treadmill and >exercise indoors. I guess so, although I cannot tolerate exercising indoors. I am just too sensitive to dust. I cough constantly. I tolerate jogging, even beside traffic , better at least from a symptomatic point of view. I am much more sensitive to dust than to air pollution. However, I am trying to jog mainly in parks now. > I guess so, although I cannot tolerate exercising indoors. I am just too > sensitive to dust. I cough constantly. I tolerate jogging, even beside > traffic , better at least from a symptomatic point of view. I am much more > sensitive to dust than to air pollution. Well, I'm the exact opposite in that regard. I cannot tolerate the sulfurous fumes from the exhausts of some vehicles. SignatureSteven D. Litvintchouk Email: sdlitvin@earthlinkNOSPAM.net Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me. >Well, I'm the exact opposite in that regard. I cannot tolerate the >sulfurous fumes from the exhausts of some vehicles. Very interesting. Of course we may be most sensitive to the irritant to which we have been most exposed... <snip> >My symptoms are as follows: <snip> > I got the CT scan done and the doctor found >left frontal and left maxillary sinusitis. The report says --"There is [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >do next? I just started nasal irrigation. I heard about some >sinusbuster pepper spray. Is that good? Please give me some advice. i think sinusbuster pepper spray rocks! it's moisturizes, shrinks swollen tissue and often seems to help open up the airways without any 'rebound' effect - can be used long term. but, you have to be able to survive 'the burn' - the red pepper in the spray certainly does produce a 'sensation' - but it's just enough to make your eyes water and get the mucous flowing - so, it's a good burn ;-) iJah After suffering with multiple sinus infections, year after year, for decades, I experimented with flooding my nasal passages with a mixture of diluted 3% hydrogen peroxide, baking soda and kosher salt. In order to flood my nasal passages and keep them flooded, I keep my forehead pointed downward. I keep my forehead down for quite a while, hoping that the anti-infective mixture can get to the infected area(s) within my sinuses and nasal passages. . It works! I have been sinus infection free for about 3 years. I think that I had chronic infection problems with my turbinates, so flooding my nasal passages with the anti-infective mixture worked very well, for me, since the infected areas were fairly easy to reach. . I have fully documented my experience and how I did it at Healthboards.com. There are posts there by people who have tried my "upside down sinus flooding" and have received either partial relief or total relief. There are also posts there from those who it hasn't helped, and by those who don't think that it is a good idea. I have no connection at all with Healthboards. I use it because I consider it to be the best facility for discussing health problems on the Internet. . To find out more, select one of the following links: . Here is the link to the detailed documentation of the "Upside Down Sinus Flooding" and also discussion: . http://www.healthboards.com/boards/showthread.php?t=139765 . . Here is the link to discussion about the "Upside Down Sinus Flooding" in the Allergy Board: . http://www.healthboards.com/boards/showthread.php?t=129210 . Here is the link to discussion about the "Upside Down Sinus Flooding" in the Colds/Flu Board: . http://www.healthboards.com/boards/showthread.php?t=124803 . . "If you save one life, it is as though you save the world" > I have been having some symptoms and I wanted to discuss them here. > They have been with me for more than a year. I tried discussing them [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > do next? I just started nasal irrigation. I heard about some > sinusbuster pepper spray. Is that good? Please give me some advice. what is the difference between kosher salt and the regular salt that you buy at the grocery store? What will happen if you remove hydrogen peroxide from your mixture? will it still work? > After suffering with multiple sinus infections, year after year, for > decades, I experimented with flooding my nasal passages with a mixture of [quoted text clipped - 68 lines] > > do next? I just started nasal irrigation. I heard about some > > sinusbuster pepper spray. Is that good? Please give me some advice. ===> "hexagonh" <hexagonh@yahoo.com> wrote in message what is the difference between kosher salt and the regular salt that you buy at the grocery store? <=== Regular salt contains additives that can sting the sinuses. Kosher salt is much less irritating to the sinuses. Peroxide DOES sting, expecially if the sinus/nasal membranes are raw and damaged from infection. ===> What will happen if you remove hydrogen peroxide from your mixture? will it still work? <=== Hydrogen peroxide is very deadly against most fungal, viral or bacterial germs. Adding baking soda to peroxide makes it a more powerful anti-infective. While salt won't kill most germs, germs don't like living in salty condition, so adding the kosher salt to the mixture, while not really necessary, also helps. If the infection is tucked away in a hard to reach place, like within the maxillary sinuses, the power of hydrogen peroxide won't matter since it won't be able to get to the germs that are there. If the germs are more accessible, like around the turbinates, which is where I think that I had my chronic, annual sinus infection problems, then the peroxide can reach the germs and hopefully kill them all. My first success with flooding my sinuses with peroxide, to get rid of my chronic sinus infection problems, also included the taking an antibiotic at the same time. If you are interested in more info, please read the documentation at: http://www.healthboards.com/boards/showthread.php?t=139765 Best of luck and health to you. > > After suffering with multiple sinus infections, year after year, for > > decades, I experimented with flooding my nasal passages with a mixture of [quoted text clipped - 68 lines] > > > do next? I just started nasal irrigation. I heard about some > > > sinusbuster pepper spray. Is that good? Please give me some advice. |
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