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~ÐÅRÅ~ - 22 Nov 2004 16:55 GMT
Hi All, I'm on day 3 of antibiotics: Amoxicillin 875 mg + clavulunate
potassium 125 mg - 2 x's daily. I woke up this morning and for the first
time in two months, I could SMELL. I saline irrigated as soon as I woke
up, headed to the kitchen to make hot tea, and I could smell the tuna
can I had drained to make salad
last night. This was such a pleasant experience at long last, even
though I
have not been able to taste or smell a
thing in 2 mo's. (talk about deprivation and misery). So I am feeling
hopeful and
just hope that my infection does indeed go away through this 3rd round
of antibiotics
(along with irrigation) as I hadn't irrigated or knew about it in the
previous 2 rounds of antibiotics meant for an upper tooth absess.  I
have no maxillary pressure,
lately, no pain anywhere no  headaches,
nothing but the yellow colored mucus,
but this is only day 3 of antibiotics. My question to anyone including
Dr. Grossan, is that upon examination last friday, the
nurse prac. stated I had a polyp. I was so very congested on that left
side, and how she could see any polyp visible with her
nasal sort of pointed flashlight aparatus
made me question what could be seen.
Now, exactly what IS a polyp? If I knock this infection for good, and
keep on irrigating as preventative therapy, will this
polyp heal? I have no previous history of any sinusitis, the impetus for
this misery
came about due to a long overdue absessed upper tooth that needed
extracting, compromising my health in this
direction; so I'm not allergy prone, to foods, or pollen. Given that
plus, if this is
an isolated incident due to the now extracted and absessed tooth, I'm
hopeful that my recovery will be PERMANENT.
However, my concerns lie with this Polyp
issue. Will this be my stumbling block? Please shed some light on this
for me, if you can. With great empathy for you all, and still striving
for recovery and wellness.. Dara
Don Brady - 22 Nov 2004 18:42 GMT
>Hi All, I'm on day 3 of antibiotics: Amoxicillin 875 mg + clavulunate
>potassium 125 mg - 2 x's daily. I woke up this morning and for the first
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>nurse prac. stated I had a polyp. I was so very congested on that left
>side, and how she could see any polyp visible with her

I once had an allergist claim he could see a polyp but there was really none
there.   I think he was looking at a turbinate!   He was very preoccupied by
polyps.

So I would waut until it is confirmed.....

>nasal sort of pointed flashlight aparatus
>made me question what could be seen.
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>for me, if you can. With great empathy for you all, and still striving
>for recovery and wellness.. Dara
~ÐÅRÅ~ - 23 Nov 2004 07:46 GMT
Groan................my sense of smell lasted about an HOUR today. I
don't understand this craziness. Clear, then stopped up, got so fed up I
used a nasal spray to function throughout my day of business.
Don Brady - 23 Nov 2004 12:47 GMT
>Groan................my sense of smell lasted about an HOUR today. I
>don't understand this craziness. Clear, then stopped up, got so fed up I
>used a nasal spray to function throughout my day of business.

Which nasal spray?

They are very great differences among them.

Don't take Afrin for more than 3 days or you will get rebound congestion as ypu
become addicted to it.

Prescription steroid nasal sprays do nto have that problem..
~ÐÅRÅ~ - 24 Nov 2004 18:02 GMT
I'm using the generic version of Afrin sold at Walgreens. It has the
same ingredient.
It's called extra moisturizing "Anefrin" nasal spray. Has ONE
ingredient: Oxymetalzoline HCI 0.05%. My nurse practitioner told me to
get Afrin, I had
the other one already, then compared labels and saw that they were the
same
thing. I was ahead of her... LOL! Sometimes we doctor ourselves. I avoid
using nasal spray for the most part, unless I'm around people and don't
want to be using ten million tissues all day long. I had a good day
yesterday.. I could even taste for most of the day. Then last
night I decided to join some people and
have some fun, and have a few drinks.
NOT the thing to do with sinusitis. I discovered that alcohol plugged me
up
all over again, and today I am congested
and can't taste a thing. Don't consume
any alcohol beverages while dealing with
this thing. Its not worth it and it relapses
any progress. Anyone else find this to be
true? By the 2nd drink, my nose decided to stop up. I don't know what
causes this
either, does anyone know why? I won't
do that again. I'm guessing that its due
to the dehydrating effects of alcohol.
I have absolutely NO food allergies or
pollen allergies. I'm not allergic to a
THING. I've irrigated twice already this
morn, 4 oz bottle. Trying to get the
congestion to loosen up. Dara
Truth Will Set You Free - 25 Nov 2004 01:41 GMT
irish-dara@webtv.net (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?~=D0=C5R=C5~?=) wrote:
>I'm using the generic version of Afrin sold at Walgreens. It has the
>same ingredient.
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>morn, 4 oz bottle. Trying to get the
>congestion to loosen up. Dara

Hello,
Cigarette smoke is the real killer . . .
It is what is in the beverage, not
so much the alcohol. The spray
you use probably has alcohol
in it. Your environment is
just about the answer
when all else fails.
Are you trying Robitussian (green label);
actually Guaifenesin, for thinning out
your mucous - stop irrigating, and start
a gentle, fine, mist spray w/breathing in,
and do it frequently, and use the salt solution:
2 teaspoons of sea salt in one pint of water. A
few drops of alcohol in the solution may help
keep down the self-contamination - or try
Listerene. Do it day and night, however
the combination of sea salt and Guaifenesin
may make big changes in your life.
Stay away from all sugar, white flour,
and cows' milk products.
DO NOT hold the spray container tight against
your nose. Force will only plunge the bacteria
and fungus deep into places where it doesnot
belong.
- big changes
coming your way - yup (:
http://www.paminifarm.com

 
~ÐÅRÅ~ - 26 Nov 2004 01:51 GMT
I've read about the green label robitussin and the mentioned ingredient
but have not purchased it. I really want to stay with the irrigating, my
only concern is that the type of irrigation bottle, may be too forceful
with its sports pop up top, I really flush it and it's no fine mist. My
concern is that
I may be doing more harm than good, but today I had a good day and could
even taste my food. I'm only half congested on that left side.
As for alcohol beverages, and the soda or mix used, I disagree. Soft
drinks don't make me feel "swollen" I believe its the dehydrating
effects of alcohol, and yeah,
cig smoke sure is a culprit too. However, for Dr. Grossan, I'm not fond
of vodka or beer so I think I'll just abstain. I need to
really find a home style apparatus that
can create a finer mist or spray and before I'd add any drop of rubbing
alcohol
to the solution, I'd use peroxide first.
It seems to me, that even just a drop would be very burning and risk
damage!
My nurse prac. said dont even use any peroxide, its too destructive to
the delicate
tissues.
ENTconsult - 25 Nov 2004 05:56 GMT
Vodka and beer are the least likely to clog the nose or cause a migraine.
Murray Grossan, M.D.
http://www.ent-consult.com
ENTconsult - 23 Nov 2004 17:00 GMT
you asked what are nasal polyps?
Nasal Polyps
    Nasal polyps are like grapes or bags of water and they can form in the nose
and sinuses.  Science really doesn’t know exactly why Bill gets it and his
identical twin Harry doesn’t.  It is felt to be allergy related, but expert
allergy management has not cleared the presence of polyps, or their return
after removal, in many patients.  Perhaps there are different mechanisms that
cause them.
        Essentially the liquid that your nose creates is supposed to leak out
into your nasal chamber.  But for some reason, the liquid accumulates within
the cell wall and the cell enlarges to grape size.  This not only blocks
breathing, but also sinus drainage as well.
        Often polyps can be shrunk by a course of oral prednisone combined
with an antibiotic.  The antibiotic is needed because any infection can enlarge
the polyps.  Most doctors prescribe a cortisone spray to be used after the
polyps shrink to prevent regrowth.  Surgical removal may be disappointing
because the same factors that caused the polyps to start in the first place are
still present.
        Persons with nasal polyps must avoid aspirin, salicylates, and related
products. For a complete list of salicylate products see
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/uspdi/202515.html.  These are known
polyp stimulators. *

*from How to be free of Sinus Disease - Permanently. Copyright 2004.
Murray Grossan, M.D.
http://www.ent-consult.com

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