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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Sinusitis / November 2004

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Mark Goff - 11 Nov 2004 20:54 GMT
Hi everyone,

I just stumbled upon this newsgroup, and I figured I would give it a shot,
since nothing else is working.

I have had a "sinus-like" headache going on 7 weeks now.

A little background - I never had ANY allergy problems until I relocated to
Cincinnati. I had heard that this area was bad for sinuses, but I didn't
think much of it, since I never had any problems before I moved here.

I've been diagnosed with allergic rhinitis and chronic sinusitis by my
allergist - After MONTHS of unsuccessful antibiotics and various drugs by my
allergist, I had endoscopic sinus surgery by my ENT this past March - he
enlarged the sinus openings and removed the sinus infection - I felt ok
until about 7 weeks ago - In the meantime, I had been getting my bi-weekly
allergy shots the entire summer from my allergist, and was not experiencing
any problems.

My symptoms include a VERY WARM forehead, along with pressure around my
temples, eyes, cheekbones, jaw and the lower part of the back part of my
head/neck.

Needless to say, it is VERY aggravating - it makes it VERY difficult to get
through a day of work, and my social life has become zilch lately.

I have taken EVERY headache/sinus/migraine type medication that's on the
market, with no relief.

I have been to my allegist several times, along with the ENT doctor that did
the surgery - they both have assured me it's NOT my sinuses, even though the
pressure I'm feeling is from my sinus areas, and it's the SAME WAY I felt
months before my surgery, when I had my sinus infection. They said the CT
Scan and MRI show "some" inflammation, but not enough to make me feel the
way I do.

My medical doctor and my ENT suggested a neurologist, so I've got an
appointment with a neurologist in 2 weeks, and have really been researching
my headache pretty much non-stop in an effort to find out what's causing it.

I have looked into rebound headaches, and even mentioned it to both of my
medical doctors - they sort of just shrugged it off.

I've also had blood work and a physical - nothing.

I called my dentist - he said my teeth were not the problem.

I went to see my optometrist - he thinks it "might" be how I hold my head
when I'm on the computer. He said this could be causing my headaches from
the muscle constriction in the lower part of my head/neck (back part). I
have an astigmitism - wear bifocals (which is good for reading and distance,
but not computers) - so you to kind lean your head back to see things up
close on the computer. He told me to make sure I am at arm's length from the
monitor, and that the top of the monitor is level with my eyes. In fact, I
can pretty much see the computer screen clearly without my glasses, but
taking them on and off all day makes me feel dizzy and worse, so I didn't
try that anymore. I've even read about computer glasses - might consider
that over my contacts (when I wear them) and/or reading glasses. I thought
maybe the eyeglasses/computer usage might be the culprit, but now I'm
doubting that.

I also have gone to my chiropractor several times, who also has a Licensed
Massage Therapist on site. He has been great for whenever my lower back
spasms pop up, so I thought I had nothing to lose by going to see him. Last
Wednesday, he had a very difficult time trying to adjust my neck - so he
sent me to the massage therapist who found several knots in my neck to work
out. I was VERY sore after that. I then went back Friday, as well as this
past Monday and Wednesday. They said they thought I 'adjusted' much better -
but to be honest, I DO NOT feel any better.

I have had friends recommend everything from cortisone shots in my neck to
acupuncture. One even suggested fibermyalgia (spelling?) - but I thought
that was only for women primarily (I'm a guy). And I really did not have
most of the symptoms - just a few.

The ONLY thing that seems to help me at all is a cold pack across my
forehead/eyes and the back of my neck. Oh yea..sleeping is great..you can't
feel the pain. For the first time in my life, I'm taking sleeping pills at
night, in an attempt to try and get some rest. I had a good suggestion from
a friend about a pillow with a gel in it to keep your head cool at night.
And would you believe I'm doing things like sticking my head out the window
on cool days, turning on the AC on cold days, and blasting the fan on my
face, in an attempt to keep my head cool.

As I type this, my eyes are really hurting - sore - and my temples on both
sides are throbbing. So many times during the day I have to stop whatever
I'm doing and hold my hands over my temple area or my forehead just to stop
the constant throbbing.

It's starting to become a strain financially, and working is become more and
more difficult.

And of course it's raining and cloudy today, so you know what that means -
it's more intense today.

I'm pretty frustrated at this moment, and would really ANY suggestions that
anyone might have to offer out there!

Greatfully yours,

Mark
CanDo - 12 Nov 2004 01:04 GMT
After suffering with multiple sinus infections, year after year, for
decades, I experimented with flooding my nasal passages with a mixture of
diluted 3% hydrogen peroxide, baking soda and kosher salt. In order to flood
my nasal passages and keep them flooded, I keep my forehead pointed
downward. I keep my forehead down for quite a while, hoping that the
anti-infective mixture can get to the infected area(s) within my sinuses and
nasal passages.
.
It works! I have been sinus infection free for about 3 years. I think that I
had chronic infection problems with my turbinates, so flooding my nasal
passages with the anti-infective mixture worked very well, for me, since the
infected areas were fairly easy to reach.
.
I have fully documented my experience and how I did it at Healthboards.com.
There are posts there by people who have tried my "upside down sinus
flooding" and have received either partial relief or total relief. There are
also posts there from those who it hasn't helped, and by those who don't
think that it is a good idea. I have no connection at all with Healthboards.
I use it because I consider it to be the best facility for discussing health
problems on the Internet.
.
To find out more, select one of the following links:
.
Here is the link to the detailed documentation of the "Upside Down Sinus
Flooding" and also discussion:
.
http://www.healthboards.com/boards/showthread.php?t=139765
.
.
Here is the link to discussion about the "Upside Down Sinus Flooding" in the
Allergy Board:
.
http://www.healthboards.com/boards/showthread.php?t=129210
.
Here is the link to discussion about the "Upside Down Sinus Flooding" in the
Colds/Flu Board:
.
http://www.healthboards.com/boards/showthread.php?t=124803
.
.
"If you save one life, it is as though you save the world"

> Hi everyone,
>
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>
> Mark
Shirley Thebaglady - 12 Nov 2004 12:05 GMT
For my sinus headaches I take 2 Aleve in the morning. They last up to
5-6 hours then you can take 2 more.

My sinus headache will last for a couple of days.  There is no way that
eases the headaches for me- on a couple of pillows or my wedge pillow,
etc.

I started this a couple of years ago- no sinus infections.
I take Claritin for my allergies and saline nasal rinse at night.

shirley
   
Mark Goff - 12 Nov 2004 13:27 GMT
Thanks to everyone for their input.

For the record, I have irrigated my sinuses ever since my surgery, and then
was told by my allergist and ENT doctor to do it on an "as needed" basis - I
religiously did it for months following surgery, but lately there has been
NOTHING coming out.

In fact, I'm almost afraid I might be getting water "stuck" in my head from
doing it so much, and maybe that's what's wrong?

Also, I've been through the zyrtc/clarin/cingulair/allegra route - it
doesn't really help me any.

I also use Nasonex on an "as needed" basis - most nasal sprays just make me
feel wierd all the time, and I don't want to get stuck in that routine.
(Nasonex does help prevent the drying out inside my nose caused by
irrigating).

Mark
> For my sinus headaches I take 2 Aleve in the morning. They last up to
> 5-6 hours then you can take 2 more.
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>
> shirley
travis and alison - 12 Nov 2004 20:44 GMT
> Thanks to everyone for their input.
>
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>
>you mean no solution is coming out at all? don't irrigate if your nasal
passages are not open.
tarvy
Bob West - 12 Nov 2004 20:47 GMT
I wear bifocals also. I went to the place I bought my glasses from and
requested a pair of mid-range glasses. That solved my problem of tilting
my head so much when on the computer. I had headaches when wearing the
bifocals but the headaches went away after I started to use the
mid-range glasses. Good luck.

Bob West
Steven Litvintchouk - 13 Nov 2004 01:50 GMT
> Hi everyone,
>
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> I have been to my allegist several times, along with the ENT doctor that did
> the surgery - they both have assured me it's NOT my sinuses,

I'm a great believer in a rule of logic called "Occam's Razor."  This
rule says that when trying to decide between two competing hypotheses,
choose the one that requires the fewest extraneous assumptions.

If you've already had a sinus infection, and you had surgery to correct
it, but you're still sick, the simplest explanation is that you've still
got sinus problems--rather than that coincidentally a neurological
problem has sprung up out of nowhere.

I had no fewer than three ENTs swear I didn't have any blockages in my
sinuses--until I found an ENT who found those blockages.

I suggest getting a second opinion from another ENT.  (And if necessary,
even a third opinion!)  He may wish to order up another CT scan and do
an endoscopic examination.

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iamthezookeeper - 13 Nov 2004 12:53 GMT
Does anyone else think Mark should get checked for a leak after surgery? He
says his face is warm, the pain is extending from forhead down. I wonder if
their is nasal dripping...clear fluid at a contant drip? If I were him I
would get another ENT to check me out. Trudy.
Don Brady - 13 Nov 2004 16:17 GMT
>Does anyone else think Mark should get checked for a leak after surgery? He
>says his face is warm, the pain is extending from forhead down. I wonder if
>their is nasal dripping...clear fluid at a contant drip? If I were him I
>would get another ENT to check me out. Trudy.

It certainly is an extremely unusual symptom with the warmth he describes.    

I think you're right that the simple test for a leak after surgery should be
done, and that he should get another opinion.

For a second opinion, a University Medical Center with a specialty in sinus
disease would be a good choice.
ENTconsult - 16 Nov 2004 06:31 GMT
clear fluid as a constant drip can be tested by using the diabetic strips to
see if there is sugar in the fluid. If htere is, an analysis of the fluid can
be done for further verification.
Murray Grossan, M.D.
http://www.ent-consult.com
 
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