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Cipro/ Stomach Bacteria

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J and b 50 - 19 Sep 2003 05:40 GMT
I've read that C destroys friendly bacteria, should you eat yogurt while on
your C regimen or take a pill, if so which one is best?
Derek - 19 Sep 2003 20:06 GMT
"J and b 50"  wrote..

> I've read that C destroys friendly bacteria, should you eat yogurt while on
> your C regimen or take a pill, if so which one is best?

Yes, antibiotics DO destroy friendly bacteria. You could supplement with
refrigerated acidophilus daily. Another touted and interesting probiotic,
( friendly bacteria ), is "Primal Defence" which offers different bacteria,
but this one does not need refrigeration. I mention Primal Defence as being
interesting because they claim that beneficial soil and plant based microbes
used to be ingested as part of food grown in rich, unpolluted soil. However,
for the last 50 years we have been sterilizing our soil with pesticides and
herbicides, destroying most bacteria both bad and good. Our modern
lifestyle, which includes antibiotic drug use, chlorinated water, chemical
ingestion, pollution and poor diet, is responsible for eradicating much of
the beneficial bacteria in our bodies. A lack of beneficial microbes often
results in poor intestinal and immune system health, contributing to a wide
range of symptoms and illnesses. Anyhow, keep in mind it is recommended you
should take probitotics as far away from your antibiotic intake as possible
as not to interfere with why you are taking the antibiotic in the first
place. Antibiotics are to kill pathogens and if your feeding yourself a lot
of other bacteria right before, or after you take your antibiotics, then
they could inhibit your meds from working to their full potential. Another
option is that you could take your probiotics every second day. They should
still help with maintaining digestion, constipation, and keep fungal
overgrowth down. Consult your physician before considering any information
on the internet.

Good luck.
J and b 50 - 19 Sep 2003 20:11 GMT
Good information. Thanks.
Derek - 20 Sep 2003 20:28 GMT
"J and b 50" wrote..

> Good information. Thanks.

Your welcome!

Further to this discussion, something I also thought about in regards to our
bodies friendly bacterial flora is our intake of regular tap water. In most
instances it is filled with chlorine, probably more chlorine than is really
good for us. I would like to know how much chlorine is going into regular
tap water nowadays, and what kind of effect does this have on the delicate
balance of the human body? Chlorine kills bacteria, no?  It doesn't favour
the good or bad bugs. It doesn't take a genius to hypothesis that if there
is too much chlorine in our regular tap water, this chlorine is constantly
eradicating the bodies natural floral bacteria, the same bacterial flora
that benefits the body in it's in many different functions. What's
interesting about this, is that drinking regular tap water doesn't seem to
provoke any obvious problems in many of us, but I speculate that this is
having a very subtle, negative effect, and that over time, it weakens the
bodies immune system. Currently, I am beginning to switch over to
reverse-osmosis water, but admittedly I need information on what the best
type of water is available out there? What are the opinions regarding
reverse-osmosis? Maybe someone can post the best type of water to buy and
drink, and why? I would be very interested to know. In roughly a month of
drinking reverse osmosis water, I can already tell the huge difference in
taste. I can tatse a lot of chlorine in regular tap water now, and
shockingly, I live in an area that has some of the cleanest, best tasting
tap water in the world. Yikes!

Does anyone have any advice on a good source/brand of water?
Reverse-osmosis?

Cheers!
Michael - 20 Sep 2003 21:46 GMT
Is Primal Defense any good? I have seen people talk about it on the
net.  Don't useful probiotics need to be refrigerated?

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>Good luck.
Derek - 21 Sep 2003 22:25 GMT
"Michael"  wrote...

> Is Primal Defense any good? I have seen people talk about it on the
> net.  Don't useful probiotics need to be refrigerated?

Yes, I would say usually they do have to be refrigerated, but Primal is a
different type of probiotic. Apparently this type does not have to be
refrigerated. You'll have to decide for yourself if it helps. I only pass on
information that might be considered. Check out Google and the Primal
Defence website for more information on it.

Good luck.
Derek - 22 Sep 2003 00:22 GMT
Further to this discussion, and in regards to refrigerated probiotics, also
consider how these natural supplement establishment's have their products
transported to them from the manufacturer? Was that acidophilus you
purchased shipped in the back of some truck during the middle of summer, in
sauna like conditions, when it's supposed to stay cold? If so, then it
efficiacy has been deteriorated even before it ended up in your fridge.

Improved health to you bro's.
Michael - 22 Sep 2003 16:19 GMT
Any recommendatiosn then to ensure the purchase of proper and
effectvie probiotics?

>Further to this discussion, and in regards to refrigerated probiotics, also
>consider how these natural supplement establishment's have their products
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>Improved health to you bro's.
Derek Williams - 23 Sep 2003 21:31 GMT
"Michael"  wrote..

> Any recommendatiosn then to ensure the purchase of proper and
> effectvie probiotics?

I'm not sure Mike. I wonder that myself? Some probiotics claim they need no
refrigeration, but I'm a bit wary of those products except the probiotic by
Primal Defence which is made without the need for refrigeration. I guess
purchasing from a reputable manufacturer and outlet is about the best one
can do?
Derek - 19 Sep 2003 20:11 GMT
"J and b 50" wrote..

> I've read that C destroys friendly bacteria, should you eat yogurt while on
> your C regimen or take a pill, if so which one is best?

Oh ya, I think Milk, yogurt, products containing iron, multi-vitamins
containing zinc, or
antacids containing magnesium, aluminum, or calcium, when taken in
combination
with Cipro, may interfere with absorption of this medication. Yogurt
contains calcium, no?

Best regards.
 
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