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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Prostatitis / June 2005Questions for anyone...
Hi, I've had a achy prostate/bladder/rectum area for about 3 months. The first urologist didnt check anything but put me on Cipro for a month. My major achiness went away but still had some achiness and odd muscle or prostate contractions during orgasms. So, he wanted to do a cystoscopy. I scheduled it for 3 weeks out and saw another urologist, hoping he would at least check my prostate fluid. He didn't, he felt the prostate and said it didnt feel enlarged and I should try Ibuprofan and alpha blocker. One week on these meds and I'm not feeling much better. The weird thing is: I have aches and am uncomfortable in many areas. 1. At times I can't button my pants cause it causes my bladder area to be uncomfortable. 2. When I squeeze my sphincter muscle it feels like something is inside my rectum.(if my prostate isnt enlarged, why would I feel that) 3. When the 2nd doc checked for enlargement, his checking really hurt my prostate...i had achy pain that whole night. Other than that, I have had NO pain, no urinary problems. I had major ache all through the area but it went away mostly from the Cipro yet the 2nd doc doesn't think I have bacterial prostatitis. So, I have uncomfortable bladder, prostate area, and rectum, still, after 3 monts. The whole are from the rectum to my penis feels odd at times. Do others of you with prostatitis have all these different symptoms? Or are you more specific? I'm getting frustrated, especially with no one checking fluids, etc. PSA test was negative...btw. Thanks for any help...I've read a million things on the web...just trying to find out if anyone has same types of symptoms. Also, have Alpha Blockers made anyone fatigued and somewhat dizzy all day? I'm feeling like this even though i take the thing at night...not fun. Thanks, James. (Seattle) > Hi, > I've had a achy prostate/bladder/rectum area for about 3 months. The > first urologist didnt check anything but put me on Cipro for a month. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > and alpha blocker. One week on these meds and I'm not feeling much > better. > The weird thing is: I have aches and am uncomfortable in many areas. > 1. At times I can't button my pants cause it causes my bladder area to [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > ache all through the area but it went away mostly from the Cipro yet > the 2nd doc doesn't think I have bacterial prostatitis. > So, I have uncomfortable bladder, prostate area, and rectum, still, > after 3 monts. The whole are from the rectum to my penis feels odd at > times. Do others of you with prostatitis have all these different > symptoms? Or are you more specific? I'm getting frustrated, > especially with no one checking fluids, etc. PSA test was > negative...btw. > Thanks for any help...I've read a million things on the web...just > trying to find out if anyone has same types of symptoms. > Also, have Alpha Blockers made anyone fatigued and somewhat dizzy all > day? I'm feeling like this even though i take the thing at night...not > fun. > Thanks, Any pain or discomfort while sitting? If so how long after sitting does it start. Any difficulty urinating? If so when? Any problems with intestional gas? History of STD? Any lower back pain? Sinus infections? Ever had Valley Feaver? Ever notice blood on stool? Hemorrhoid problems? Any pain in or around tailbone? jrh Ache when sitting...all the time...no to all the other answers. No STD, no Valley Fever, No hemorrhoids, no blood in stool, maybe a bit of ache/pain around tailbone. The ache is all the time when sitting...all over from the bladder to the rectum. not fun > Ache when sitting...all the time...no to all the other answers. No > STD, no Valley Fever, No hemorrhoids, no blood in stool, maybe a bit of > ache/pain around tailbone. The ache is all the time when > sitting...all over from the bladder to the rectum. not fun If the problem is in the reproductive tract, a fertility clinic might be able to detect it. I believe the kind of cramping you describe could be a symptom of a reproductive tract infection. pray you find the right Doctor. jrh If you are constantly squeezing your pelvic muscles so as to sort of squeeze the pain, stop doing this. This constant squeezing behavior is what is causing the pain. I had this problem for 13 years and finally figured what was causing it about 2 years ago. I'm almost totally pain free now since I learned to stop doing this. It takes time for the pelvic muscles to heal, once you stop the squeezing, so you won't get immediate results. But you should notice the pain starting to decrease after a couple days after stopping. > Ache when sitting...all the time...no to all the other answers. No > STD, no Valley Fever, No hemorrhoids, no blood in stool, maybe a bit of > ache/pain around tailbone. The ache is all the time when > sitting...all over from the bladder to the rectum. not fun There is *NO* golf ball up your rectum!! The habitual squeezing so as to "squeeze the golf ball" is what is actually causing that sort of sensation. I don't know what brought on your symptoms, or how long they took to develop. But, your symptoms and experience sound exactly like mine. Don't put yourself through 13 years of this, like I did. If you think this might be the case for you, I have aditional information I can lead you to. > Ache when sitting...all the time...no to all the other answers. No > STD, no Valley Fever, No hemorrhoids, no blood in stool, maybe a bit of > ache/pain around tailbone. The ache is all the time when > sitting...all over from the bladder to the rectum. not fun listen my man,i've had the same problem for many many years.i think the problem you have is in your lower spine. here are a few things you can do to help it. sitz baths 2 or 3 times a day heating pad on lower spine deep bending exercises motrin 2 times day you may need oxycodone along with the motrin you may also need to be treated with amytriptyline at bed time. after you have sex always take motrin for some reason zantac helps some people take gas-x after meals. you may have gas and not be aware of it.if you aren't farting a lot you need gas -x you may also need to take a muscle ralaxer. I have had the same symptoms you describe for about 8 years now. I went through the same doctor routine you have been through too, never could find a cure. There may be something to the comment about the lower back as my lower back is injured but who knows. I hope you are able to get rid of your problems, I never have. Best of luck. RM riverman , i positively guarantee you that if you take 2 motrin 2 or 3 times aday plus zantac you will feel a lot better.at one time motrin was a prescription drug and is very strong on the stomach. this is why you need to take zantac. here is the symptoms i have had for many tears. started out with pain in penis then pain in lower back then pain in left testicle then pain in right testicle then pain in both testicles and back then pain in rectum plus burning sensation then feeling of golf ball up my a.s at times the pain was almost unbearable absolutely nothing would relieve the pain.not even oxcycodone, or oxycontin then luckily i went to a very old dr at the va. he told me that all the pain was coming from my back.and he was absolutely right. he told me to take very hot sitz baths do deep bending exercises take 2 motrin 3 or four times a day i am also taking amytriptyline for the burning sensation in my rectum and back and testicles i thought to myself this old f.ck is full of sh.t, because i have taken ibuprofin many times in the past without any positive results. i am not sure but i think motrin is different from normal ibufrofin.because normal ibuprofin does not help me at all. i too suffered a back injury in vietnam and have had the pain ever since. dr's have always treated me for prostatitis with very little improvement i didn't have prostatitis at all.. if you try this i think you will get a lot better..i certainly did >Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > >James. (Seattle) http://www.drmirkin.com/men/M156.html > http://www.drmirkin.com/men/M156.html Please do a little bit of research before posting links to the junk medicine of Dr. Mirken... http://www.chronicprostatitis.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1825 http://groups-beta.google.com/group/sci.med.prostate.prostatitis/msg/ef39c49d5c3 cad7b?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8 http://groups-beta.google.com/group/sci.med.prostate.prostatitis/msg/9094de7edb9cd4f6 http://groups-beta.google.com/group/sci.med.prostate.prostatitis/msg/f9efc7492cd 278cc?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8 http://groups-beta.google.com/group/sci.med.prostate.prostatitis/msg/2f8ab249661539d9 >> http://www.drmirkin.com/men/M156.html > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >http://groups-beta.google.com/group/sci.med.prostate.prostatitis/msg/2f8ab249661539d9 I have just started my research and I just found this newsgroup yesterday, I posted the URL of Dr. Merkin's opinion and opinion is all that it is although he does take responsibility for his opinions, whether they are right or wrong I have no idea that's the reason I'm doing this research. At least I will have questions to ask the urologist. Of the five URL's that you posted only one is attributed to an M.D.(Daniel Shoskes UCLA) showing his URL which by the way does not work. All the others are unsigned opinions so I will treat them as I have the rest of them. I personally have never had any dealings with Dr. Merkin so I do not know how correct he is. I do know that the urologists that I have been to all they care about is prostate surgery. I have an appointment with a new urologist and I am trying to collect as much information as I can. It's hard to take someone's opinion seriously when they will not sign that opinion, at least Dr. Merkin has. >>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/sci.med.prostate.prostatitis/msg/2f8ab249661539d9 > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > doing this research. At least I will have questions to ask the > urologist. The problem is the amount of ignorance most UROS have about this condition. Considering the number of men who have this and how their lives can be made living hells, the ignorance is almost criminal. > Of the five URL's that you posted only one is attributed to an > M.D.(Daniel Shoskes UCLA) showing his URL which by the way does not > work. All the others are unsigned opinions so I will treat them as I > have the rest of them. He moved to Florida some years back to work for the Cleaveland Clinic and is now in the process of relocating to Ohio. He has had numerous peer-reviewed studies published and is considered one worlds leading experts on this condition. His current web address is www.dshoskes.com > I personally have never had any dealings with Dr. Merkin so I do not > know how correct he is. He makes no mention that the most common type of prostatis is non-bacterial (http://kidney.niddk.nih.gov/kudiseases/pubs/prostatitis/, http://www.urologyhealth.org/adult/index.cfm?cat=09&topic=115). In addition, long-term use of anti-biotics has been shown to have little or no effects on men with the non-baterial form (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstra ct&list_uids=15492337&itool=iconfft&query_hl=2). > I do know that the urologists that I have > been to all they care about is prostate surgery. I have an > appointment with a new urologist and I am trying to collect as much > information as I can. Surgery should always be considered a last option and should be avoided altogether. > It's hard to take someone's opinion seriously when they will not sign > that opinion, at least Dr. Merkin has. Try www.drzeitlin.com, www.dshoskes.com , and www.pelvicpainhelp.com. >Surgery should always be considered a last option and should be avoided >altogether. That is the reason that I have resisted surgery so strenuously. I did have the microwave procedure done in Roswell New Mexico about six years ago, even then I'm pretty sure the enlargement was due to prostatitis rather than BHP because the urologist that perform the procedure did not even mention the possibility that the high PSA was due to infection. >Try www.drzeitlin.com, www.dshoskes.com , and www.pelvicpainhelp.com. Thank you for the URLs above I will check them out. By the way does anyone know about the Prostatitis & Prostate Cancer Center in Durango, CO, and Ronald E. Wheeler, M.D.? I have tried to contact him in Durango and get a recording. I have a feeling that his practice is split between Florida and Colorado with Colorado being his summer practice, just a guess. I do have an appointment with a urologist in Durango on the 8th while I'm there I'll check out his address. > By the way does anyone know about the Prostatitis & Prostate Cancer > Center in Durango, CO, and Ronald E. Wheeler, M.D.? Never been there but he has the reputation of being a complete quack with no known published peer reviewed studies. He used to make the claim on his web site that prostatitis causes prostate cancer -- a statement for which there is no scientific evidence. >>By the way does anyone know about the Prostatitis & Prostate Cancer >>Center in Durango, CO, and Ronald E. Wheeler, M.D.? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > He used to make the claim on his web site that prostatitis causes prostate > cancer -- a statement for which there is no scientific evidence. I saw him at the recent AUA meeting. He was the Meeting's own Sideshow Bob, hawking his Peenuts product to passersby and telling anyone who'd listen that prostatitis leads to prostate cancer. Do a search on "peenuts" on this newsgroup to find out more about Ronny Wheeler-Dealer. Also, if anyone is telling you to ejaculate 3 times a week, don't believe it! It will make the problem worse. If you are trying to j.rk off 3 times a week to get out an infection, stop doing that. Give your pelvic muscles some time to heal. >Also, if anyone is telling you to ejaculate 3 times a week, don't believe >it! It will make the problem worse. If you are trying to j.rk off 3 times a >week to get out an infection, stop doing that. Give your pelvic muscles >some time to heal. At 70 I don't think that's going to be a problem especially when my wife is available for "therapy". In my case my GP confirmed by a urine analysis that I do have an infection but he refuses to treat it other than with seven days of medication which in the past promises to reoccur causing extreme back and lower abdominal pain. The symptoms of which I still have after medication. 2003 Alumascape RLD-27 5-ver. 1992 3/4 ton Dodge diesel Drop the "z" to mail to me. > At 70 I don't think that's going to be a problem especially when my > wife is available for "therapy". In my case my GP confirmed by a > urine analysis that I do have an infection but he refuses to treat it > other than with seven days of medication which in the past promises > to reoccur causing extreme back and lower abdominal pain. The > symptoms of which I still have after medication. What's your question, Pops? chances are is that your back and lower abdominal pain is not even associated with your urinary tract infection.you most likely have a problem in your lower spine as well as a urinary tract infection.take my advice and see a back dr. >chances are is that your back and lower abdominal pain is not even >associated with your urinary tract infection.you most likely have a >problem in your lower spine as well as a urinary tract infection.take >my advice and see a back dr. Been there done that, the orthopedics Dr. suggested a urologist. but thanks anyway. >>chances are is that your back and lower abdominal pain is not even >>associated with your urinary tract infection.you most likely have a [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > but thanks anyway. Honestly, just live with it and stop making so much of it. f.cking Hell it isn't prostate CANCER. People learn to live with bloody diabetes for sh.t's sake and suffer in silence so why the hell cant we? >Honestly, just live with it and stop making so much of it. f.cking Hell it >isn't prostate CANCER. People learn to live with bloody diabetes for sh.t's >sake and suffer in silence so why the hell cant we? I hope that your comments here are not made from personal experience about prostate cancer. If they are I can understand your outburst. As a matter of fact I have lived with diabetes for the past 12 years (type to late onset). This latest problem I've only had for 3 to 4 weeks. I guess I have been accused of a lot of things but being a masochist is not one of them. At 70 I am not ready to roll over and played dead especially since I watched my mother die of cancer, a very painful death and she fought it close to 12 years and never gave up nor will I. Anything less than that I would consider it the same thing as suicide and that is not for me. If you think the questions I have posted here are to garner sympathy might I suggest you consult a psychiatrist. >>Honestly, just live with it and stop making so much of it. f.cking Hell it >>isn't prostate CANCER. People learn to live with bloody diabetes for [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > As a matter of fact I have lived with diabetes for the past 12 years > (type to late onset). This latest problem I've only had for 3 to 4 I've lived with, my entire life, about 7 different VERY bad problems all auto immune disorders. People say "Do this, dont do that" and whinge all day long about them. I spent some years I could barely move and I prayed to die one day and then I realised it isnt what you do (so long as you arent a person who should be in gaol) that counts, it's persevering and since then I worked my way back and work. I dont ASK for sympathy and I dont GET sympathy. I just do my job. When I am dying of cancer which is likely in the not too distant future supposing my heart doesnt win the race first, I'll take a moment to think how bloody lucky I was to make it to my age (in my 40s) because some people die of cancer before they reach 10. They were never more than naughty in their lives. They didnt "deserve" what they got and they spent all too small a time here and so many of them die with a calm that belies their age while asking their parents not to cry for them when they are gone. I'll think about the teenagers who were fit and healthy and got sent off to fight in past wars so I can sit back and decide whether to whinge or not. A lot of them never came back and some came back but left their innocence behind. The issue is not whether to survive. The issue is how you do it. If you can live and die gracefully and at the very least do your best to take it without making those around you worse for it, you have achieved something. It's all too easy to sit back in our Western hemisphere nations and whinge about things that some in other countries wont ever grow old enough to experience. When all the wrongs in the world are made right, I'll concede there is a cause to whinge about personal health problems. > I dont ASK for sympathy and I dont GET sympathy. A 40-year-old lecturing a 70-year-old about life. Idiot. If you are 70, and you are still calling people "idiot", then you have missed the boat, maybe you will have better luck in your nextlife... . I think you are the one that is the idiot here sir. For 70, you have obviously learned nothing of any consequence. >> I dont ASK for sympathy and I dont GET sympathy. > > A 40-year-old lecturing a 70-year-old about life. > > Idiot. > If you are 70, and you are still calling people "idiot", then you > have missed the boat, maybe you will have better luck in your > nextlife... . I think you are the one that is the idiot here sir. For > 70, you have obviously learned nothing of any consequence. I'm not the 70-year-old. Idiot. And how am I supposed to know that? *a.shole.* >> If you are 70, and you are still calling people "idiot", then you >> have missed the boat, maybe you will have better luck in your [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Idiot. >> If you are 70, and you are still calling people "idiot", then you >> have missed the boat, maybe you will have better luck in your [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Idiot. Yeah, you aren't 70. You're just the idiot. Correct! > If you are 70, and you are still calling people "idiot", then you have > missed the boat, maybe you will have better luck in your nextlife... . I > think you are the one that is the idiot here sir. For 70, you have > obviously learned nothing of any consequence. I think you may miss the point here. He lives yet doesn't learn is what he is attempting to say. >> I dont ASK for sympathy and I dont GET sympathy. > > A 40-year-old lecturing a 70-year-old about life. > > Idiot. I guess we can agree on that point. You certainly are, Ollie. What the f.ck does age have to do with it you monstrous joke? If you had the sense to wipe your arse, you'd lower your intelligence quotient. >>> I dont ASK for sympathy and I dont GET sympathy. >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > If you had the sense to wipe your arse, you'd lower your intelligence > quotient. Aren't you the same guy who used to go under the name Gutbuster? And if so, didn't you claim that you've had acute bacterial prostatitis for years and that it cannot be cured, when everyone whose done the slightest amount of research knows that it can be cured in a couple of months with anti-biotics? >>>> I dont ASK for sympathy and I dont GET sympathy. >>> A 40-year-old lecturing a 70-year-old about life. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > slightest amount of research knows that it can be cured in a couple > of months with anti-biotics? Yes, he is Gutbuster returned as Coilman. Coilman aka Gregory Hope, spammer supreme, disrupts numerous newsgroups: http://tinyurl.com/c65oy Coilman's (Gutbuster's) real name is Greg Hope who lives in Sydney, Australia. He's the archetypal "ugly Aussie". He used to post as "gregh" and bored us all with the many sob stories and exaggerated tales of sickness (clearly hypochondria). He also had us laughing with his futile attempts to get taxpayers to support him. An example: " ... the doctors I saw (specialists, all) called me a hypochondriac and actually SAID to me that I don't have ANYTHING AT ALL wrong with me even though I gave them proof of CP, Sleep Apnea, Graves Disease, CFS, IBS. Why did I bother going back again knowing all that? Simply because in Australia, with all that confirmed to be wrong with me with medical evidence to support it, you cant get Govt assistance and can starve in the gutters. You have to have a "popular" health problem to get Govt assistance here. ... I am a PC repairer and thus internet and computers are a tax deduction. ... I am literally "sick to death" of doctors. I am sick, they wont help .." etc etc This group was thoroughly disrupted by the likes of true idiots like Gutbuster/Coilman a long time ago. All serious discussion has moved to http://www.chronicprostatitis.com/forum/ >>>>> I dont ASK for sympathy and I dont GET sympathy. >>>> A 40-year-old lecturing a 70-year-old about life. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Coilman aka Gregory Hope, spammer supreme, disrupts numerous > newsgroups: http://tinyurl.com/c65oy You're a real f.cking idiot arent you? Cant you even work out headers? I dont even belong to the same ISP as that person. WHAT A PRICK you are but fine you go blame anyone you like for your lack of understanding. I dont even live in the same STATE as that person you said I am! You are, without doubt, an idiot afraid of his own shadow so blaming whomever you can. >> Yes, he is Gutbuster returned as Coilman. >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > You're a real f.cking idiot arent you? Cant you even work out headers? I > dont even belong to the same ISP as that person. Maybe not. But you're both coming out of Australia; you both have a similar style of posts; and you both claim to have several ailments afflicting you at one time. Coincidence? And if you not the same person, why the emotional reaction? > WHAT A PRICK you are but fine you go blame anyone you like for your lack > of understanding. I dont even live in the same STATE as that person you > said I am! How do you know that? > You are, without doubt, an idiot afraid of his own shadow so blaming > whomever you can. There's no hope for you, Mr. Hope. >>>> I dont ASK for sympathy and I dont GET sympathy. >>> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > of research knows that it can be cured in a couple of months with > anti-biotics? Aren't you the fuckwit who cant understand internet? >>>>> I dont ASK for sympathy and I dont GET sympathy. >>>> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Aren't you the fuckwit who cant understand internet? That answers my question. Yup - he's the guy. And what does all of this have to do with prostatitus? >>>>>> I dont ASK for sympathy and I dont GET sympathy. >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > That answers my question. Yup - he's the guy. email me at swantzswanson@charter.net i think i can help you with the back pain and lower abdominal pain. swantzswnason >>Hi, >> [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > http://www.drmirkin.com/men/M156.html "Prostatitis can be cured". Rubbish. |
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