So piss off spamming then. Spammers and quacks who want to sell their wares
exist over there. Here we may have the same thing but we get ALL messages,
not just those approved by the censors!

Wait, "Gut-Buster" ... I remember you! you're the Australia fellow with
a huge chip on his shoulder, right? You're the one whose doctors refused
to treat him because of his bad attitude, right? You're the one who
reported that the system is against him and everyone's an idiot, if I
remember your themes correctly. Do you still believe your conspiracy
theories about the medical profession, Mr Crazy?

Nothing about you has improved over the years, clearly. Pity.

an example from the board
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Let me talk a little bit about “cure.” Cure implies that you have a problem
that a treatment simply eradicates. I do not think that the successful
resolution of chronic pelvic pain syndromes means that they can never flare
up. There was a time when sitting when I was out to dinner or at movie was
agonizing, and driving my car even a little way, required that I sit inclined
on one buttock. With gratitude, I sit here comfortably writing this letter
without any pain. I do not however describe myself as being cured. I do
relaxation every day and do my best to live a life in which I am not swept up
in anxiety and a type A lifestyle. I believe that if I stopped doing
relaxation, and went back to an unconscious, ‘burning the candle at both ends’
lifestyle, which is my predilection, my pain would probably return. If I did
have a flare-up, however, I would not consider it a bad thing or a failure but
simply a wake up call to do what I needed to do to return to balance without
symptoms.

In my view, sooner or later most people have their version of chronic pelvic
pain syndrome, be it irritable bowel syndrome, constipation, anxiety disorder,
low back pain, non-cardiac chest pain, headache, temperomandibular disorder or
hypertension. The body is fragile. Different bodies respond to age and stress
at different sites in the body. People with the kind of pelvic pain we treat
happen to be pelvic responders. The point, in my view, is to understand how to
live a life that quiets down or eliminates the symptoms. For a certain group
of people with pelvic pain of the kind that we successfully treat, I believe
there may be no permanent cure, only daily treatment of becoming inwardly
quiet that keeps one essentially symptom free. The point is to be able to
effectively deal with the tendency to tighten up the pelvis so that it does
not interfere with your life and happiness.

Sincerely,

David Wise, Ph.D.
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I know it is posible to manage symptoms better, but is the causes of
CP-CPPS really known?

This is nothing new, years ago many Doctors insisted the problem was
tension and prescribed Valium, a more comfortable chair, and new
ways of sitting. I am sure many are grateful for help figuring out
ways to deal with it, or supress the symptoms, but what needs to be
known is what causes it, so the damage can be stopped and others can
be prevented from getting it.  Unfortunately the economic incentive
is for treatment not cure because a cured patient is no longer a
customer.  

jrh

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