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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Prostatitis / August 2004Looking for Information in all the Wrong Places?
Visit the best prostatitis, chronic pelvic pain and male interstitial cystitis resource on the internet at http://www.chronicprostatitis.com/ Theer is also a moderated discussion forum at http://www.chronicpelvicpain.us You are welcome to browse the website or join the forum and contribute. "Webmaster Chronicprostatitis.com" wrote > Visit the best prostatitis, chronic pelvic pain and male > interstitial cystitis resource on the internet at > http://www.chronicprostatitis.com/ > > There is also a moderated discussion forum at > http://www.chronicpelvicpain.us I have just looked around the internet tonight, and I can verify that our websites are still the most active, the most up-to-date and the most hopeful on the internet. So don't get lost reading about bacteria and other nonsense, come visit us first. >"Webmaster Chronicprostatitis.com" wrote > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >hopeful on the internet. So don't get lost reading about bacteria and >other nonsense, come visit us first. What a craphead! Bacterial infections are real and the cause of prostate problems for many sufferers. You are no better that a side show shill pushing your point of view on newcomers. > What a craphead! > Bacterial infections are real and the cause of prostate problems for > many sufferers. > You are no better that a side show shill pushing your point of view on > newcomers. I see from your posting history that you've never had a positive urinalysis. You say that despite this, you are "convinced" you have/had a bacterial infection. Now, tell us, why should we subscribe to this unproven, quasi-religious faith you have in a bacterial infection? Or could it be that it is /you/ who is the "craphead"? Readers who are unwilling to join you in the Flat Earth Society can take a more scientific approach here: http://www.chronicprostatitis.com/ > I see from your posting history that you've never had a positive > urinalysis. You say that despite this, you are "convinced" you have/had > a bacterial infection. Now, tell us, why should we subscribe to this > unproven, quasi-religious faith you have in a bacterial infection? Or > could it be that it is /you/ who is the "craphead"? You can urinanalyze bacterial prostatitis sufferers all day long and come up with negative results every time. To check for bacteria in the prostate it is necessary to expel prostatic fluid and check for bacteria in that. Unless, of course, you are really not interested in finding any bacteria. >> I see from your posting history that you've never had a positive >> urinalysis. You say that despite this, you are "convinced" you have/had [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >bacteria in that. Unless, of course, you are really not interested in >finding any bacteria. Correct. Urinalysis is about as useful as a tit on a bull for finding bacterial infections. You can have a colonized infection in any organ or even in your spinal column or bone marrow and a urinalysis can miss it completely. All they check is to see if you have an elevated WBC, if not you can't have an infection. I was deathly ill with Tuberculosis for nearly 2 months and had repeated urinalysis which all came up negative. They only started taking me serious after I started coughing up blood and aveoili. Only after one doctor had the sense to run a scratch test did they get a clue. Even then sputum and tissue cultures came up negative.(The bacilli were only identified after they extracted fluid from my lower lungs and spine.) I'd been diagnosed with chronic prostate infections no less than 5 times in the last decade, all based on elevated WBC and inflamed prostate and bladder. Like most here I had intial success with ABX's but would always have a relapse after a period of time. Whatever recurring infection I have has gone systemic though. All the classic symptoms. Low grade fever with elevated blood pressure, inflamed lymph glands as well as urinary tract burning and prostate pains as well as fluid in the lungs with dark green or brown phlegm mixed with blood. I'm lucky if one in five of my urinalysis show anything amiss. I always get relief with antibiotics though.(And NO I don't want to take the antibiotics, actually hate having to deal with the side effects.) Like many here am sick of hearing the all knowing few pontificate on on what ails some of us. HOW could they know having not even met us to make any sort of diagnosis? My condition has a hospital full of specialists stumped, very unlikey some wit in a news group could possibly have any more of a clue. > > I see from your posting history that you've never had a positive > > urinalysis. You say that despite this, you are "convinced" you have/had [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > bacteria in that. Unless, of course, you are really not interested in > finding any bacteria. I guess you must be a genius, because you know more than the Medline Medical Encyclopedia, which states: "Chronic Bacterial Prostatitis Signs and tests A urinalysis reveals increased white blood cells (WBCs) and bacterial growth upon culture of urine #3. Culture of prostatic secretions shows in increased levels of WBCs and more concentrated bacterial growth." http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/000523.htm More likely, you are one of the silly people still clinging to the disproved idea of bacterial infection as the cause of the majority (95%) instead of the minority (5%) of male chronic pelvic pain cases. Get educated: http://www.chronicprostatitis.com/ Bacterial prostatitis confirmed by 1. cytology of EPS 2. culture of EPS 3. prostate biopsy But first was negative per urinalysis by 2 different UROs, before I got smart and realized they, and apparently, you, didn't know what they were doing. I have since found similar stories from other bacterial prostatitis sufferers. > > > I see from your posting history that you've never had a positive > > > urinalysis. You say that despite this, you are "convinced" you have/had [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > Get educated: > http://www.chronicprostatitis.com/ > Bacterial prostatitis confirmed by > 1. cytology of EPS [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > I have since found similar stories from other bacterial prostatitis > sufferers. The very last place I'd place any trust or confidence is in "stories by other bacteria prostatitis sufferers". The sad fact for people like you, whom I like to call "obsessive personality" types who fix on one idea and cannot be shaken from it, is that if you do the sort of exhaustive investigations you describe, culturing biopsies etc, to NORMAL men, you will find bacteria. That's proved in recent studies: http://www.chronicpelvicpain.us/viewtopic.php?t=971 They say the proof of the pudding is in the eating, and so it is in cases like yours. Proudly armed with your hard-won "diagnosis" of "bacterial prostatitis", you then pound this "infection" with the appropriate antibiotics. Typically, this brings no (or passing) relief. What can be wrong, you ask? Denial steps in, and these are the usual nonsense excuses: 1) bacteria are hiding in calcium deposits 2) bacteria or resistant to antibiotics 3) bacteria are locked in acini and cannot be got at 4) <insert your lastest excuse here> Instead, I suggest you look at other etiologies that are far more likely. It's interesting that your main symptom, burning at the tip of the penis, is associated with trigger points in the levator ani. Bacterial prostatitis confirmed by 1. cytology of EPS 2. culture of EPS 3. prostate biopsy But first was negative per urinalysis by 2 different UROs, before I got smart and realized they, and apparently, you, didn't know what they were doing. I have since found similar stories from other bacterial prostatitis sufferers. > > > I see from your posting history that you've never had a positive > > > urinalysis. You say that despite this, you are "convinced" you have/had [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > Get educated: > http://www.chronicprostatitis.com/ |
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