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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Prostatitis / May 2004thisss morning......
hi all, this has happened to me about 3-4 times now. i wake up, knowing there is some urine in my bladder, there is some pressure towards the lower end of the bladder (possible pelvic florr muscles), and i go and urinate and it does not clear all of the urine out. So i wait a little, relax myself, then the rest of it comes out. is this the bladder, prostate, or pelvic floor problem? You are describing classic enlarged prostate. But I suppose it could be something else also. Larry > hi all, > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > is this the bladder, prostate, or pelvic floor problem? > You are describing classic enlarged prostate. But I suppose it could be > something else also. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > > > is this the bladder, prostate, or pelvic floor problem? I suppose, however, the last 2 uro's i have seen have told me its normal, they even did an ultrasound of my bladder and the portion below it, where the prostate is, and they said that its not enlarged. Ive read something about weak bladders, anything else that can cause something similar? mak >> You are describing classic enlarged prostate. But I suppose it could be >> something else also. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > >mak I have the same problem, difficulty voiding in one go. My prostate isn't enlarged either. UT isn't constricted etc.. as well. And while they can't find any evidence of an infection a course of ABX's improve flow dramatically as well as ridding me of burning in my urinary tract. The latest antibiotic they gave me was nitrofurantoin. Anyone had any experience with this drug? I'm reluctant to start it as I'm told it's pretty harsh on the lower GI. > I have the same problem, difficulty voiding in one go. > My prostate isn't enlarged either. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > I'm reluctant to start it as I'm told it's pretty harsh on the lower > GI. you think you might have more than 1 problem. You have the abnormal semen color, right? plus it sounds like your not urinating in 1 go. Or do you think they are related? Do you have the urination problem throughout the day? or is it just 1 time. For me, its once in a while, and its only the 1st time i urinate during the morning. >> I have the same problem, difficulty voiding in one go. >> My prostate isn't enlarged either. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >For me, its once in a while, and its only the 1st time i urinate >during the morning. Yeah I'm sure that it's some sort of infection. Dark yellow semen with visible fat bodies is a clinical sign of a infection, usually bacterial. My problems urinating are all the time. Fairly sure they are related, as when I take ABX's both problems clear up fairly quick. Problem is when I stop the antibiotics the problem is back in 2-3 days. I've varied the antibiotic course from just the 2 weeks they claim will clear it up to 3 months. All the same. Hate taking them as they really beat my gut up. Lord knows what else they're doing to my system.(I've been taking them on and off on a regular basis since '96.) I can't help but think that if my health provider wasn't so cheap they could have run one or two of the better tests and id'ed the particular bug, prescribed the correct abx and had this thing cleared up. Instead they run urine sample after urine sample with just the basic gram stains and cultures. Then claim because nothing popped up I couldn't really be ill. They refuse to take semen samples for culture which I think would help clear up any question about this once and for all. The only reason they still see me is that I evince all the clinical signs of a bladder/prostate infection. Gotta wonder how they got their MD's. > >> I have the same problem, difficulty voiding in one go. > >> My prostate isn't enlarged either. [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > signs of a bladder/prostate infection. > Gotta wonder how they got their MD's. no Semen cultures? thats like a standard thing. im sure they dont do PCR testing then either? you think it could be an STD? Yes your situation does sound like an infection. if you find an MD, they can look at the EPS under a microscope. >> >> I have the same problem, difficulty voiding in one go. >> >> My prostate isn't enlarged either. [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] >situation does sound like an infection. if you find an MD, they can >look at the EPS under a microscope. Yeah. I saw my uro a couple of weeks ago and asked for a PCR. He told me a PCR had nothing to do with detecting infections. What's with that? It's a VA hospital so it's no suprise that they feel the need to bullshit the patients. Don't think it's an STD. No discharge or any of the usual symptoms. (Not sexually active due to the pain experienced . Been that way for some time. I also have other physical disabilities that keep me debilitated so sex is out of the question.) The semen discharges I have occur about once every 2-3 months. Not a nocturnal emission, more like a painful discharge or spasm from the prostate. Like it's discharging infected fluids. It stinks to high hell and is dark yellow with large fat bodies. They have tried to extract prostate fluid several times in the past with no luck. I understand this is not unusual to have a "dry" prostate. All I get from it is a bruised prostate that hurts for days and blood in my urine. I've asked a number of times for them to take semen cultures and they refused. My last few visits have been nothing less than combative with these clowns. I'm not alone, understand that many of their other patients are as pissed as I am. I'll probably start taking the latest abx they've given me in the next day or two.(nitrofurantoin) and see how that goes. > Yeah I'm sure that it's some sort of infection. > Dark yellow semen with visible fat bodies is a clinical sign of a > infection, usually bacterial. A reminder? If your not already, many of you need to start taking acidophilus every day especially if you are taking antibiotics and even if your not. Antibiotics can seriously hurt the body. It's really important as it can help with s.fluid color and tone, as well as other things.  Signature¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ --- U§ê FIDUCIAL_POWER@HOTMAIL.COM tø rêåch mê --- ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ >> Yeah I'm sure that it's some sort of infection. >> Dark yellow semen with visible fat bodies is a clinical sign of a [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >can seriously hurt the body. It's really important as it can help with >s.fluid color and tone, as well as other things. My wife had me taking Acidophilus for for some months for my gut as an attempt to counter the effects of the abx's. I didn't see much improvement and didn't stay with it. As I recall it didn't do much for my fluid. Could be that my condition has progressed beyond any benefit from nutritional supplements alone. (I have gotten back on a strict diet and am taking more vitamin E as well as loads of Rutin. Cut out saturated fats and simple starches altogether.) I'm certain that if I get my weight and fat down I'll see an improvement in my overall health. About 40 pounds over my ideal target at this time. I'll get some more Acidophilus and start on that again as well. > I'll get some more Acidophilus and start on that again as well. Yes. You really should. You've probably taken enough antibiotics for 10 people during the last year and it's killed off so much of the friendly bacteria in your body that that might already be a health emregency for you. No joke. p.s. from what I understand, in order for you to see improved viscosity in your s. fluid while taking acidophilus, it's best to take at least double or even triple the normal amount of acidophilus daily for a few months and be off antibiotics completely . Signature¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ --- U§ê FIDUCIAL_POWER@HOTMAIL.COM tø rêåch mê --- ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ Disclaimer: I am not a medical doctor. Please consult with your own medical practicioner. Do not substitute what you read in a post for competent professional medical advice which encompasses your unique medical condition. The above comments are only general suggestions for discussion. dont be shy about telling your doctor that the next time he prescribes an antibiotic that you want the big guns. antibiotics effectiveness against bugs decreases over time due to wide spread adaptability of the bacteria to the drug, an abx that had 80 percent effectiveness ten years ago may now be ranked at 30. good doctors in trying to preserve the future effectiveness of abx in the future try to give the lowest ranked abx possible that they think will cure you in order to save the big guns, there are antibiotics out there that will kill almost any bacteria very effectively and ranked close to 100percent. tell your doctor that you want the big guns, also youbeing on abx so long on and off you have probobly made your bugs mostly imune to those abx and will need a big gun abx. also you must stay on the abx for the full course, if even a few bacteria are alive when you stop taking the antibiotic, its offspring will be resistant to the same antibiotic that was so effective in the first place, You must take all your meds no matter how well you start to feel and have med left over, if you save some of your antibiotic for later you just make the bug stronger and the antibiotic less effective or even useless. The webmaster at c.p.com posted an interesting approach some time ago, ( if I recall correctly? ), in regards to emptying the bladder in a different way as compared to emptying the bladder in the traditional way. It involves partially standing/crouching at the toilet seat instead of fully sitting on the toilet seat. You know, crouching......the way you see some of those asian people do from time to time? My limited understanding of this technique is that it might lessen the pressure sensation inevitably felt when your on the toilet seat crunching your pelvic area, and with less obstruction, urine flow and bladder emptying may improve. That last bit of urine might come out. I don't know, but if you have troubles completely emptying your bladder, this home experiment might be worth a shot. And I guess it could take as long as a few weeks in order to determine the overall benefits, ( if any? ). Just an idea. Signature¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ --- U§ê FIDUCIAL_POWER@HOTMAIL.COM tø rêåch mê --- ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ >The webmaster at c.p.com posted an interesting approach some time ago, ( if >I recall correctly? ), in regards to emptying the bladder in a different way [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >Just an idea. Yeah, it's called the cave man crouch. Years ago my GI doctor had me doing it to aid in bowel movements. The modern approach is to use a padded toilet seat and put a large book under your feet to put the body into more of a natural crouch. I've been told that standing up when peeing will help too. May be something to that. As many of us get older we go from being a stand and pee to a "sit and pat" person. Old age has a way of bringing us low. I'll give your idea a try, thanks again. |
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