> > Three days later it began to burn when I urinate. I spoke to my girlfriend
> > and told her everything about my small affair. Of course she was sad but
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> Makaveli
> Hey "T" Have you received a Prostate massage from your doc yet?
Beware of prostate massage!
http://www.chronicpelvicpain.us/viewtopic.php?t=1225
http://www.chronicprostatitis.com/massage.html
> Sometimes the bacteria are pretty well protected within the prostate
> and need their defenses broken down.
Misguided layman's fantasy.
> I believe anti-biotics (ABX) plus prostate massage should be your
> first thought if a bacteria has been cultured.
Staph. is a common CONTAMINANT. Ignore Staph. "infections".
> Bacteria can produce "bio-films" (which are basicaly
> shields) around themselves which can stop ABX penetration.
No evidence of this in prostates. This happens on catheters, not in the
prostate. The prostate is inimical to bacteria.
> Not to mention, that the acini(ducts) within the prostate can become plugged
> up, harbor and make a nice cozy environment for the bacteria to
> flourish.
Pure BS. This is the fantasy of Ken Smith Esq, freelance website
builder, of the Prostatitis Foundation.
> My personal opinion is that the majority of sufferers have
> a bacterial infection
Pity that your opinion clashes with latest research. See the featured
studies on the home page of http://www.chronicprostatitis.com
Robert - 04 Mar 2004 04:04 GMT
> > Hey "T" Have you received a Prostate massage from your doc yet?
>
> Beware of prostate massage!
> http://www.chronicpelvicpain.us/viewtopic.php?t=1225
> http://www.chronicprostatitis.com/massage.html
Beware of people who claim to know everything Webmaster. You are the one.
> > Sometimes the bacteria are pretty well protected within the prostate
> > and need their defenses broken down.
>
> Misguided layman's fantasy.
They don't know anything Webmaster, compared to you.
> > I believe anti-biotics (ABX) plus prostate massage should be your
> > first thought if a bacteria has been cultured.
>
> Staph. is a common CONTAMINANT. Ignore Staph. "infections".
I sure will, ignore all staph infections in the future.
> > Bacteria can produce "bio-films" (which are basicaly
> > shields) around themselves which can stop ABX penetration.
>
> No evidence of this in prostates. This happens on catheters, not in the
> prostate. The prostate is inimical to bacteria.
Not only that but bacteria can't grow in the prostate.
> > Not to mention, that the acini(ducts) within the prostate can become plugged
> > up, harbor and make a nice cozy environment for the bacteria to
> > flourish.
>
> Pure BS. This is the fantasy of Ken Smith Esq, freelance website
> builder, of the Prostatitis Foundation.
Fantasy island with all these f.ckers coming up with fantasies.
> > My personal opinion is that the majority of sufferers have
> > a bacterial infection
>
> Pity that your opinion clashes with latest research. See the featured
> studies on the home page of http://www.chronicprostatitis.com
All the questions are answered there and anybody who disagrees is an
a.shole.
Best site there is. All you guys don't know sh.t compared to Webmaster and I
don't want to hear otherwise.
Cameron - 04 Mar 2004 15:07 GMT
> > > Hey "T" Have you received a Prostate massage from your doc yet?
> >
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> Best site there is. All you guys don't know sh.t compared to Webmaster and I
> don't want to hear otherwise.
Hey "T" As you can see there are many opinions about what works and
what doesnt. The fact is, there is no definitive treatment that is
best for everyone. Most Uro's do believe in prostate massage and ABX.
They just dont peform the treatment long enough. It was brought up
that prostate massage can be dangerous. I believe this is correct.
Keep in mind that the simplist surgery or having a tooth extracted is
also dangerous and can cause harm (you actually sign a doc stating
this before surgery. Therfore, the premise that prostate massage
should not be used due to possible harm is not valid. With this
premise, you would not have your appendix removed or your tonsils
taken out as this can also be dangerous. Also, a person can play host
to many different kind of bacteria without any symptoms while another
can exhibit an all out immune response to those same bacteria.
Good luck in your search and keep reading.
Webmaster Chronicprostatitis.com - 04 Mar 2004 15:13 GMT
> Most Uro's do believe in prostate massage and ABX.
More misinformation from the Polacheck shill.
Cameron - 04 Mar 2004 20:48 GMT
> > Most Uro's do believe in prostate massage and ABX.
>
> More misinformation from the Polacheck shill.
All of the Uro's seen prior to seeing Dr. Polacheck performed prostate
massage, including the Mayo Clinic Scottsdale AZ. Fact. I guess the
Uro's I employed do not read the medical journals where prostatitis is
really a pelvic muscle disorder.
What is also true "T" is that I found very effective relief from
prostate massage along with ABX. But again, bacteria was cultured
from my prostatic secreations. Zithromax seemed to be the drug that
helped me turn the corner. Still, there is no one treatment that
works for everyone, that is the sad part.
Webmaster Chronicprostatitis.com - 04 Mar 2004 21:04 GMT
> All of the Uro's seen prior to seeing Dr. Polacheck
> performed prostate massage, including the Mayo Clinic
> Scottsdale AZ. Fact. I guess the Uro's I employed
> do not read the medical journals where prostatitis is
> really a pelvic muscle disorder.
It's sad to see to what extent patients can dictate the treatment they
receive for this disorder. When a uro is faced with an incurable,
querulous patient who asks for "massage" treatment, he tends to comply.
At least it makes the patient happy, and sometimes it seems to help, for
reasons we can only guess at:
http://www.chronicprostatitis.com/massage.html
Robert - 04 Mar 2004 22:56 GMT
> > All of the Uro's seen prior to seeing Dr. Polacheck
> > performed prostate massage, including the Mayo Clinic
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> reasons we can only guess at:
> http://www.chronicprostatitis.com/massage.html
You are right as always, patients should not be allowed to dictate their
treatment. They should go to your site.
Cameron - 05 Mar 2004 14:58 GMT
> > > All of the Uro's seen prior to seeing Dr. Polacheck
> > > performed prostate massage, including the Mayo Clinic
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> > reasons we can only guess at:
> > http://www.chronicprostatitis.com/massage.html
So what your saying is the Mayo Clinic and all other Uros are
unethical since they are providing treatment they do not believe in
just because the patient is asking for it? Please, there is no
conspiracy here, no shooter on the grassy knoll. I knew nothing of
prostate massage until the Uro's offered it up as a treatment.
My very first Uro told me that he was going to start a series of
prostate massages that would be very painful. However, alot of
patients respond to this type of treatment.
Remember, prostate massage has been around for a very long time. Way
before Allopathic medicine came into vogue.
I think what we are seeing here is a patient(webmaster)who received
prostate massage and didnt respond. Therefore, the treatment doesnt
work. This can be said with a thousand other treatments in the world.
Chemo works for some cancer patients and not for others. One type of
treatment will work for some diabetics and not others, so on and so
forth. Readers of this newsgroup may respond to prostate massage,
they may not. Do not rule out anything.
> You are right as always, patients should not be allowed to dictate their
> treatment. They should go to your site.
> > > Hi all,
> > >
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>
> Hope this helps.
Torben,
Semen is your cum, what comes out on ejaculation. EPS , is expressed
prostate secretion. The liquid your prostate secretes. You should have
it checked for bacteria. If there is non, then dont bother with this
whole "invisible" bacterial ppl talk about. Thats non-sense. Try
looking into the pelvic muscle disorder CPPS. Try to get as many tests
as possible.
Makaveli
Hey guy's.
Don't mean to offend, but can some of you clean up your responses a little
bit? It sure would make reading a thread more enjoyable and easier to
follow. It's time consuming and irritating having to read a one or two short
response at the end of a huge personal testimony time and time again.
Hint ´¯`°¤.¸.¤ It's called cut n' paste.
Thanks.
Carry on soldier.

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Robert - 04 Mar 2004 04:07 GMT
> Hey guy's.
>
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>
> Carry on soldier.
Wha'ts that sqiggly sh.t at the end of all your responses?
Are you gay or is that bacteria?
º-- Idea Man --º - 05 Mar 2004 12:43 GMT
"Robert" wrote...
> Wha'ts that sqiggly sh.t at the end of all your responses?
> Are you gay or is that bacteria?
Robert, Robert, ( sigh ) Becoming an internet troll are you?
Robert says he has a mind of his own. He's welcome to it -- who else would
want it?