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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Prostatitis / February 2004Device for treatment of prostatitis
Dear all There is a new, patented, product for treatment of prostatitis. The product is called ProstaGo and is designed to help you doing your prostate "drainage" by your self as described on the Prostatitis organizations website (http://www.prostatitis.org/drainage.html). Prostate "drainage" is known to reduce and relieve symptoms originating from the enlarged Prostate often classified as Prostatitis. To understand more about the drainage of your Prostate with ProstaGo please go to "About the ProstaGo" on the ProstaGo website (www.prostago.com). It is recommended that you seek your MD's opinion and possible he will recommend that you get antibiotic treatment in combination with prostate "drainage", which can be done succesfully with the ProstaGo (www.prostago.com). Kind regards Lars Mortensen > Dear all > > There is a new, patented, product for treatment of prostatitis. The product > is called ProstaGo and is designed to help you doing your prostate > "drainage" by your self as described on the Prostatitis organizations > website Sure hope your company has lots and Lots and LOTS of liability insurance! >> Dear all >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Sure hope your company has lots and Lots and LOTS of liability insurance! Depending on how rigid the device is it could be dangerous. > Depending on how rigid the device is it could be dangerous. I would like to refer to the Prostatitis Foundation (www.prostatitis.org), who writes the following at the bottom of their links page (http://www.prostatitis.org/pointers.html): "We believe that our ProstaGo (you can see it on www.prostago.com) will be helpful for all the patients that suffer from Prostatitis and who don't have, or want to have somebody to do the drainage of their Prostate." Furthermore I personally know of several people who have had great succes in the treatment of prostatitis since they started using the ProstaGo. I hope more will give the ProstaGo a chance - for their own sake - as it might be the best treatment of prostatitis ever, which is why I spend my time posting the information about it at the newsgroup in the first place. Kind regards Lars Mortensen "Lars Mortensen" wrote... > "We believe that our ProstaGo will be > helpful for all the patients that suffer from Prostatitis. Your a liar for claiming that your ProstaGo would be helpful for ALL the patients that suffer from prostatitis. Or maybe it's my mistake and I've misread your post? Which one is it? Are you making an outrages claim or did I misread? > - for their own sake - as it might be > the best treatment of prostatitis ever. The best treatment for prostatitis ever? Your effort to make money off your product is embarrassingly crude. > which is why I spend my time posting > the information about it at the newsgroup in the first place. Oh really? I'd rather you grace the walls of a prison cell rather than grace us with your perpetual lies. Sheesh! I hate when a person has a legitmate product that might help, yet due to all their greed, they lose focus and become scumbags. Are you reading this buddy? Ughh. > Sheesh! I hate when a person has a legitmate product that might help, yet > due to all their greed, they lose focus and become scumbags. Are you reading > this buddy? Listen, buddy, I am sad that it has to come to this... But you have obviously misread my message. The ProstaGo product is not mine and I am not the owner of the company behind it - and I am not the responsible person behind it. And of course the ProstaGo-company is not responsible for anything I might say or do and vice versa. I only posted the message about it, because I know it has been extremely successful in the treatment of prostatitis for others - and yet the product is relatively unknown on international basis, which I personally think is a shame due to the successful it have given to others. I hope this could cast some light on the issue? Kind regards Lars Mortensen > The ProstaGo product is not mine and I am not > the owner of the company behind it - and I am not > the responsible person behind it. > Lars Mortensen "Lars", you deny association with the product, yet you post here from the country where it is made (Denmark) using a hotmail account. Do you think we are stupid? Moreover, looking at the design, I can see that it won't belong before you face legal action from men with perforated recta. Hey-yo! > "Lars", you deny association with the product, yet you post here from > the country where it is made (Denmark) using a hotmail account. Do you > think we are stupid? > > Moreover, looking at the design, I can see that it won't belong before > you face legal action from men with perforated recta. Hey-yo! I am not denying that I am from Denmark and by looking at ProstaGo.com, I can tell that it is also from Denmark. You are absolutely right about that fact. But as I live in the city Aalborg, the ProstaGo.com (according to their website) are from another city called Vejle (about 180 km. south of my home) :-) I maintain my previous statement; I am not the owner of the ProstaGo.com company... Regardless to the "shared-nationality"... Are you the owner of MicroSoft just because you are American??! I use a hotmail-account because if you are using your real e-mail address in a newsgroup, you will very soon be spammed to death - that is my expierience. My real e-mail address is by the way; lars(a)grove-mortensen,dk (with the obvious adjustments of course). So all in all... I hereby hope to have replied to your message. Kind regards Lars Mortensen > I am not denying that I am from Denmark and by looking at ProstaGo.com, I > can tell that it is also from Denmark. You are absolutely right about that > fact. But as I live in the city Aalborg, the ProstaGo.com (according to > their website) are from another city called Vejle (about 180 km. south of my > home) :-) I'm sure we'd like to believe you, but cannot. It is more than a little strange that the very first poster in this group from Denmark, AFAIK, also happens to be here recommending a Danish product. It's just too much of a coincidence. You may not own the product or the website, but the odds are high that you are a shareholder or have some commercial interest. > I'm sure we'd like to believe you, but cannot. It is more than a little > strange that the very first poster in this group from Denmark, AFAIK, > also happens to be here recommending a Danish product. It's just too > much of a coincidence. Have you maybe considered the possibility that since it is a Danish product, it might have been distributed in DK for some time (and therefore known to some people in DK, like me)... While the company just recently started their website for international-distribution... So there might be a logical reason that I, a Dane, would know about ProstaGo before people in other countries - without necessarily being a shareholder or anything like that. Trust me: I DO NOT OWN ANY PART OF THE PROSTAGO.COM COMPANY WHAT SO EVER. Unfortunately, as happens so often here, this discussion has diverged from the topic, and turned into a series of personal attacks. What I would like to read, is opinion and discussion of the pros, and cons of the device, or massage, not unfounded conspiracy theories about the motives of the posters. For some people, massage helps, for others it does not. Any ideas as to why? If one is going to do massage, what is dangerous about the device? How might it be made safer, better? Is there a another way to expell EPS from the prostrate that is more effective and safer? jrh >> I'm sure we'd like to believe you, but cannot. It is more than a little >> strange that the very first poster in this group from Denmark, AFAIK, >> also happens to be here recommending a Danish product. It's just too >> much of a coincidence. > Have you maybe considered the possibility that since it is a Danish product, > it might have been distributed in DK for some time (and therefore known to > some people in DK, like me)... While the company just recently started their > website for international-distribution... So there might be a logical reason > that I, a Dane, would know about ProstaGo before people in other countries - > without necessarily being a shareholder or anything like that. > Trust me: I DO NOT OWN ANY PART OF THE PROSTAGO.COM COMPANY WHAT SO EVER. > Unfortunately, as happens so often here, this discussion has > diverged from the topic, and turned into a series of personal attacks. All the posts have been totally on-topic. It is not a "personal attack" to point out that somebody from a small European country is promoting a clearly dangerous device from that same country, and that a conflict of interest is very likely. > What I would like to read, is opinion and discussion of the pros, and > cons of the device, or massage, not unfounded conspiracy theories > about the motives of the posters. Already available on the internet -- http://www.chronicprostatitis.com/massage.html > For some people, massage helps, for others it does not. > Any ideas as to why? Your conclusion is not valid. We only have results for massage with antibiotics on the prostate itself. The prevailing theory is that massage may help by relaxing deep pelvic muscles. Depending on the doctor and muscles involved, a mixed bag of results can be expected if only the prostate itself is targeted. Wise and Anderson are conducting a proper study right now. Be patient. > If one is going to do massage, what is dangerous about the device? Er, a sharp, narrow object in the rectum? You gotta be kidding! > How might it be made safer, better? Already done by other companies, and cheaper. See the Crystal Wand. > Is there a another way to expell EPS from the prostrate > that is more effective and safer? Why expel EPS? You assume it's helpful? Why? >> Unfortunately, as happens so often here, this discussion has >> diverged from the topic, and turned into a series of personal attacks. > All the posts have been totally on-topic. It is not a "personal attack" > to point out that somebody from a small European country is promoting a > clearly dangerous device from that same country, and that a conflict of > interest is very likely. All very well but, in a debate speculation about the motives of the participants is off topic and counter productive. The device is neither more or less dangerous if the poster has a finantial interest in the product or not. >> What I would like to read, is opinion and discussion of the pros, and >> cons of the device, or massage, not unfounded conspiracy theories >> about the motives of the posters. > Already available on the internet -- > http://www.chronicprostatitis.com/massage.html >> For some people, massage helps, for others it does not. >> Any ideas as to why? > Your conclusion is not valid. We only have results for massage with > antibiotics on the prostate itself. The prevailing theory is that > massage may help by relaxing deep pelvic muscles. Depending on the > doctor and muscles involved, a mixed bag of results can be expected if > only the prostate itself is targeted. Wise and Anderson are conducting a > proper study right now. Be patient. All of my CP symptoms are gone and I attribute the reduction to prostrate massage. Only part of the prostrate is "drained" by preasure applied from the rectum, and excessive preasure can rupture blood vessels so I used subsonic vibrations instead. Most likely not dangerous and it effects all of the prostrate.(there are no studies on this) What I am dealing with now appears to be hypersensitivity to seamen, and circulatory damage. I am now taking low doses of benidril after using raw garlic for ten months, and still seeing slow but steady improvement. Of course it could have nothing to do with what I have done, but I believe otherwise because of the time I have spent examining samples under the microscope. (40x to 2000x slides and 10x to 100x stereo) >> If one is going to do massage, what is dangerous about the device? > Er, a sharp, narrow object in the rectum? You gotta be kidding! >> How might it be made safer, better? > Already done by other companies, and cheaper. See the Crystal Wand. >> Is there a another way to expell EPS from the prostrate >> that is more effective and safer? > Why expel EPS? You assume it's helpful? Why? Perhaps some of the ducts are blocked. Perhaps the person suffering from CPPS has developed an alergic reaction to seamen and massage helps remove it from the prostrate. If the prostrate were infected, massage could help clear it out, or it could cause it to get worse, depending on what the agent was. jrh > in a debate speculation about the motives of the participants is > off topic and counter productive. That's merely your opinion, not an immutable fact, and I disagree. > and I attribute the reduction > to prostrate massage. Only part of the prostrate is "drained" by > preasure applied from the rectum, and excessive preasure can rupture > blood vessels so I used subsonic vibrations instead. Subsonic vibrations in the lower pelvis? This action quite likely relaxed a pelvic spasm. You should contact Drs Rodney Anderson and David Wise at Stanford University. You may be onto something. > What I am dealing with now appears to be hypersensitivity > to seamen, and circulatory damage. As a layman, and a layman who cannot even spell "semen" properly, I think you should cease the uninformed speculation and simply report the procedure. >As a layman, and a layman who cannot even spell "semen" properly, I >think you should cease the uninformed speculation and simply report the >procedure. Your arrogance is worse than my spelling, My speculation is not uninformed and this news reader doesn't have a spell checker. As to massage, which the topic of this thread, and more specifically the posibly dangerous device being marketed to perform it. 1. Preasure on the gland will not necessarly cause it to excrete it's contents. 2. Excessive preasure could rupture a blood vessel. 3. The smaller an object is, the easier it would be to apply excessive preasure. Imagine what could happen if one sliped or fell while using the device. 4. The device appears to have a small pointy object whth an handle that could easily apply excessive preasure causing blood vessels to rupture in the prostrate, seminal gland or other parts of the urinary tract, or even penitrate the intestinal wall. 5. Therefore the device is not safe. -------------------------------------------------- Second Topic. The benefits of massage. After examaning slides of EPS over a period of months while doing prostrate massage, it is my opinion that the health of the prostrate can be dramatically improved by by massage. Unfortunately I do not have high quality images of the EPS but what I have Is more than good enough to prove that what I believe is true. Any reasearcher with an open mind could easily duplicate anything I have struggled to accomplish. The bigest obstacle I encountered was the arrogance of Doctors. Hours waiting, filling out forms that were never read, only to be dismissed with a bogis diagnosis, and thousands of dollars in charges. Established medicine becomes more like a health care extortion system each day, with constant attacks on alternate medicine, and little focus on correcting the major flaws that drive people away. After days on the phone, trying to find a Doctor or clinic willing to work with me, to help find the cause and cure of my disorder, the way the system worked became clear. Doctors, and laymam are separated by an inpenetrable wall. jrh >>As a layman, and a layman who cannot even spell "semen" properly, I >>think you should cease the uninformed speculation and simply report the [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > >jrh Certainly seems to be the case. I've had some pretty crappy uro's in my time. One's idea of a prostate exam took about 1.5 seconds and didn't even get as far as my piles. Another, a female, solution was to take it out. turp, turp turp... and at that time I was only 45 with a normal size prostate and a .7 on my psa. Prostate massage can help, but in my case if done to firmly always results in bleeding and days of pain. And has never resulted in any fluid secretions. For the most part the run of the mill urology clinic are more of a pain than the condition we suffer. If it wasn't for the uro I got at my last visit(last friday) and his willigness to actually listen to me. Then run more than the usual urine test to find out I had a bladder problem. I'm still in the blind as to the nature of the problem.(waiting for appointments for more tests.) But at least I feel a little less lost. > > > <clip> > I'm still in the blind as to the nature of the problem. > (waiting for appointments for more tests.) Questions. 1. Does preasure on the tailbone cause pain? 2. Any red or orange streaks in mucus on stool? 3. Pain from sitting? "jrh" < wrote.. > All very well but, > in a debate speculation about the motives of the participants is > off topic and counter productive. The device is neither more or > less dangerous if the poster has a finantial interest in the > product or not. With all due respect JRH, ( and I mean that ), I'll support you and agree with you totally that at every opportunity we should stay on topic and avoid the flame wars, but we have not yet gone off track. We are staying on topic. Indeed, at times there is a need to calm the waters and remind people to stay on topic during a debate, but this is not that time. The header of this thread is " Device for treatment of prostatitis " and what we have here is a poster, ( i.e. salesman ), who clearly stepped out of line by claiming that a particular companies prostate massage wand was the best treatment "EVER" ( related words => always, of all time, at any time ), for "all", ( related words => everyone, every, every last, ), CPPS sufferer. I don't know about you, but that bothers me. I'll discuss the pro's & cons of prostate massage, ( which can be beneficial ), anytime, but when it comes to innocent sufferer's being misled and hustled, it's time for those of us, ( like you JRH ), to challenge the offender. Let's be real. This thread is not about the benefits of prostate massage, it's about a salesman who traipsed in here and insulted the intelligence of others. Let's keep the integrity of this newsgroup in tact. We get enough adverstisement flyers in the mail. Peace. > "jrh" < wrote.. >> All very well but, >> in a debate speculation about the motives of the participants is >> off topic and counter productive. The device is neither more or >> less dangerous if the poster has a finantial interest in the >> product or not. > With all due respect JRH, ( and I mean that ), I'll support you and agree > with you totally that at every opportunity we should stay on topic and avoid [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > and insulted the intelligence of others. Let's keep the integrity of this > newsgroup in tact. We get enough adverstisement flyers in the mail. > Peace. the good... "Sure hope your company has lots and Lots and LOTS of liability insurance!" "could be dangerous" "Moreover, looking at the design, I can see that it won't belong before you face legal action from men with perforated recta. Hey-yo!" the bad... "Your a liar" <clip> " Your effort to make money off your product is embarrassingly crude." <it may be true, but it takes the focus off the product> the ugly... Trust me: I DO NOT OWN ANY PART OF THE PROSTAGO.COM COMPANY WHAT SO EVER. <no interest in the company, havn't used the product, just know some people who have, so you're marketing it for free???> > All the posts have been totally on-topic. It is not a "personal attack" > to point out that somebody from a small European country is promoting a > clearly dangerous device from that same country, and that a conflict of > interest is very likely. I will of course grant you that Denmark is a relatively small country. But truth be told; we are actually about 5.200.000 people living in DK all in all. And I asure you; not all 5.200.000 Danes are shareholders of ProstaGo - or have any relation to the product at all for that matter. Your conclusion is simply too far fetched! I am only interested in promoting the product because I truly (based in success-stories, I know my self) know that it works very well. I am in no way the owner of ProstaGo or in any way responsible for the product/company. > Already available on the internet -- > http://www.chronicprostatitis.com/massage.html There you go again... You acuse me of being specially related to the ProstaGo, which you don't even have any proof of... And still you go in promoting your own - very commercialised - website and related products at every chance you get. You are simply too much! > Er, a sharp, narrow object in the rectum? You gotta be kidding! If you would actually spend some time looking at their website (www.prostago.com), you would know that the ProstaGo is NOT a sharp, narrow object. Please at least do just a little research before jumping to such conclusions... But then again, this is unfortunately no different from your previous postings. > Already done by other companies, and cheaper. See the Crystal Wand. Yes, it is maybe done cheaper by other companies. But not even slightly as succesfull!... So you have to ask your self; is $48 too much to pay for a succesfull cure for your prostatitis-problem? Think about it! Kind regards Lars Mortensen - from DK, but not the owner (in any way) of ProstaGo (while "Webmaster Chronicprostatitis.com" has well documented financial interests in promoting every product sponsoring his website!) > I am only interested in promoting the product because I truly (based in > success-stories, I know my self) know that it works very well. You have yet to say that you yourself used it successfully. You stated that "Furthermore I personally know of several people who have had great succes in the treatment of prostatitis since they started using the ProstaGo." So even though you are from Denmark, and this is a Danish product, you have not used it. That means that 1) you are not a CPPS sufferer, merely an interloper on this group, and 2) you have ulterior motives. Either way, "something is rotten in the state of Denmark." LOL! > > Er, a sharp, narrow object in the rectum? You gotta be kidding! > > If you would actually spend some time looking at their website > (www.prostago.com), you would know that the ProstaGo is NOT a sharp, narrow > object. Of course it is!! http://www.prostago.com/pictures/staven-fp.gif > > Already done by other companies, and cheaper. See the Crystal Wand. > > Yes, it is maybe done cheaper by other companies. But not even slightly as > succesfull!... So you have to ask your self; is $48 too much to pay for a > succesfull cure for your prostatitis-problem? Think about it! You *know* that this rectum-wrecking device is better than the Crystal Wand? You have done a study? You are a funny man, Lars. BTW, $48 is an _outrageously_ high price for a piece of plastic! No wonder you are here trying to push this junk. <clip> ... So you have to ask your self; is $48 too much to pay for a >> succesfull CURE for your prostatitis-problem? Think about it! ..............!!!!.............................................. <clip> Lars, sci.med.prostate.prostatitis is a permanent archive, is what you post here what you want to be remembered for? It sounds like you are claiming the device you are marketing cures CP CPPS! Most here quickly recognize bull sh.t posts and respond appropriately. If the company you represent wants to help CP suffers, stop the misleading rhetoric and do more research. jrh >Already done by other companies, and cheaper. See the Crystal Wand. Having purchased and used that product, I have strong concerns about it. Unlike the human finger, there is no sensitivity with a wand, so there is a greater risk of applying pressure to the wrong place, missing the prostate altogether, which could cause a stricture. Surprisingly, I share Ken Smith's position on this: nothing but a human finger should be used to massage the prostate. > >Already done by other companies, and cheaper. See the Crystal Wand. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > which could cause a stricture. Surprisingly, I share Ken Smith's position on > this: nothing but a human finger should be used to massage the prostate. If it's the narrow rod-like shape that's of concern, what about the aneros device (http://www.aneros.com/index.php)? It's finger shaped, curved and uses only the anal sphincter for massage. > If it's the narrow rod-like shape that's of concern, what about the > aneros device (http://www.aneros.com/index.php)? It's finger shaped, > curved and uses only the anal sphincter for massage. And, may I add, the ProstaGo, which is not much thicker then a human finger. And you, yourself, is in 110% control of the massage with the ProstaGo. And it is furthermore designed to make exactly the right massage / pressure on the prostate... Well well... Kind regards Lars Mortensen > > If it's the narrow rod-like shape that's of concern, what about the > > aneros device (http://www.aneros.com/index.php)? It's finger shaped, [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Kind regards > Lars Mortensen While I believe in massage, and I also would expect that there are some who may sucessfully use the ProstaGo or the Crystal Wand, I think there is nothing like a finger to perform this task. I have read of some who sucessfully perform this act on themselves which I find amazing. I have tried but am in no way, limber enough to do the deed. But my wife does the task very well. The picture of the ProstaGo looks a little scary to me. I am not willing to spend $48 bucks on such a device. "Lars Mortensen" wrote.. > I only posted the message about it, because I know it has been extremely > successful in the treatment of prostatitis for others - and yet the product > is relatively unknown on international basis, which I personally think is a > shame due to the successful it have given to others. > > I hope this could cast some light on the issue? Your talking about a prostate massage wand?! It might very well be beneficial for that subset of men who respond to prostate massage, I don't dispute that, but how could you deliberately post " we believe that our ProstaGo will be helpful for "ALL" the patients that suffer from Prostatitis, ( not true ), and for their own sake, ( buy it ) - it might be the best treatment of prostatitis ever?" This is clearly a sales pitch. If you want to contribute to the group, please be more responsible. Many here have had there hopes dashed in the past, and your claims are unnacceptable. Nuff said. > but how could you deliberately post " we believe that our > ProstaGo will be helpful for "ALL" the patients that suffer from > Prostatitis, ONCE AGAIN... As I very well stated in the specific message, I was qouting the website of the Prostatitis Foundation (http://www.prostatitis.org/pointers.html - at the bottom). So it was not my own words! How can this be so hard to understand, when I even put it inside "" and mention the link to the page I was qouting??! > it might be the best treatment of prostatitis ever?" This is clearly a sales pitch. I know several people who have tried several non-working treatments, which wasted not only time and money, but they also > have had there hopes dashed so when I know for a fact that this product (www.prostago.com) have successfully helped so many people that I personally know; I truely believe in the good deed of spreading the word. > Nuff said. > > "We believe that our ProstaGo will be > > helpful for all the patients that suffer from Prostatitis. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > misread your post? Which one is it? Are you making an outrages claim or did > I misread? And by the way... The above mentioned was a quote from the website of the Prostatitis Foundation website, as - by the way - mentioned in my message. Maybe you should give it a little more time reading my message correctly before jumping to such conclusions? This does not mean that I am personally claiming that the ProstaGo would be helpfull for ALL the patients that suffer from prostatitis. I am not a doctor in anyway (but a company formation agent). I am, as mentioned, only qouting the Prostatitis Foundation website (http://www.prostatitis.org/pointers.html - at the bottom). Kind regards Lars Mortensen > > > "We believe that our ProstaGo will be > > > helpful for all the patients that suffer from Prostatitis. > And by the way... The above mentioned was a quote from the website of the > Prostatitis Foundation website The Prostatitis Foundation website has little or no credibility. It has degenerated to a commercial website selling/promoting questionable items, theories and products. Better karma: http://www.chronicprostatitis.com/ > The Prostatitis Foundation website has little or no credibility. It has > degenerated to a commercial website selling/promoting questionable [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Better karma: > http://www.chronicprostatitis.com/ Okay. Thank you for your insight. Kind regards Lars Mortensen > > The Prostatitis Foundation website has little or no credibility. It has > > degenerated to a commercial website selling/promoting questionable [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Kind regards > Lars Mortensen Webmaster is quick to bash any discussion of treatments that aren't promoted on his website. And his website is very commercial. > The Prostatitis Foundation website has little or no credibility. It has > degenerated to a commercial website selling/promoting questionable [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Better karma: > http://www.chronicprostatitis.com/ I have just visited your above mentioned website of (http://www.chronicprostatitis.com/) and I must say; People who live in glasshouses should not throw stones! I personally find your site to be much more commercial - what is the deal with all the sponsor-adds from companies selling items and products?? And are you able to be non-partial is a discussion like this?! But then again... You Americans are notorically known to have a great focus on the mistakes/flaws of others, while you have very little or no ability/will to look nearer home. > Hey-yo! ;-) > > The Prostatitis Foundation website has little or no credibility. It has > > degenerated to a commercial website selling/promoting questionable [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > I personally find your site to be much more commercial > And are you able to be non-partial is a discussion like this?! The difference between our website and the Prostatitis.org website is that we try to promote products with some basis in science. Also, we do not masquerade as a non-profit while actually running a commercial website, so we at least are honest. > But then again... You Americans are notorically known to have a great focus > on the mistakes/flaws of others, while you have very little or no > ability/will to look nearer home. I am not an American. Don't let your anti-Americanism overwhelm your critical faculties, if indeed you possess any. Once again, anyone considering the ProstaGo product should bear in mind that I think its design is thoroughly dangerous and may lead to rectal perforation. I STRONGLY advise against it! > But then again... You Americans are notorically known to have a great focus > on the mistakes/flaws of others, while you have very little or no > ability/will to look nearer home. I know it might have come out like I am an anti-american. But despite my above mentioned oppinion, I am in no way anti-american. Just to set the record straight. :-) Kind regards Lars Mortensen >> But then again... You Americans are notorically known to have a great >focus >> on the mistakes/flaws of others, while you have very little or no >> ability/will to look nearer home. While America is plagued with many problems (especially under its current political leadership), your comments show that you aren't the brightest salesman. You are trying to push your product to a newsgroup filled with Americans, and you let your true feelings about us slip out. Oops! >I know it might have come out like I am an anti-american. But despite my >above mentioned oppinion, I am in no way anti-american. Just to set the >record straight. :-) Oh, you've realized your mistake, and now you're trying to correct it. I forgive you, and now I will waste my money on your dangerous product. |
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