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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Prostatitis / February 2004Levitra
I have or had prostatitis and am now left with impotence　because of it. Tried Levitra last night and it worked so well that I needed to pee before having sex. I couldn't get it down. So went back to have sex but it was so uncomfortable wanting to pee that I had to stop the sex. Tried to pee again and had to throw cold water on it to do so. After I threw water on my penis it wouldn't come back up for another half an hour or so!!! By this time my girlfriend had fallen asleep. I don't know if this is success or not!!! "blueboy" wrote.. > I have or had prostatitis and am now left with > impotence　because of it. Besides Levita, ( know nothing about it? ), you might want to give Millgamma-N a try. It's a special vit.B compound. There were report's out of Europe, ( I don't have them ), that indicated it helped facilitate the repair of erectile nerves when taken over a few months span and at a certain dose, (mg), per day. Search PubMed for more info. Peace. Yeah I have tried it but, maybe i should try a higher dose ? What dose is recommended ? "blueboy" wrote... > Yeah I have tried it but, maybe i should try a higher dose ? > > What dose is recommended ? ----------------------------------------------------------- Regarding Milgamma-N. Read below: ------------------------------------------------------------ 1: Arzneimittelforschung. 1999 Mar;49(3):220-4. Related Articles, Links Effectiveness of different benfotiamine dosage regimens in the treatment of painful diabetic neuropathy. Winkler G, Pal B, Nagybeganyi E, Ory I, Porochnavec M, Kempler P. 2nd Department of Internal Medicine, Municipal St. John's Hospital, Budapest, Hungary. The therapeutic effectiveness of a benfotiamine (CAS 22457-89-2)-vitamin B combination (Milgamma-N), administered in high (4 x 2 capsules/day, = 320 mg benfotiamine/day) and medium doses (3 x 1 capsules/day), was compared to a monotherapy with benfotiamine (Benfogamma) (3 x 1 tablets/day, = 150 mg benfotiamine/day) in diabetic patients suffering from painful peripheral diabetic neuropathy (DNP). In a 6-week open clinical trial, 36 patients (aged 40 to 70 yrs) having acceptable metabolic control (HbA1c < 8.0%) were randomly assigned to three groups, each of them comprising 12 participants. Neuropathy was assessed by five parameters: the pain sensation (evaluated by a modified analogue visual scale), the vibration sensation (measured with a tuning fork using the Riedel-Seyfert method) and the current perception threshold (CPT) on the peroneal nerve at 3 frequencies: 5, 250 and 2000 Hz). Parameters were registered at the beginning of the study and at the end of the 3rd and 6th week of therapy. An overall bneneficial therapeutic effect on the neuropathy status was observed in all three groups during the study, and a significant improvement in most of the parameters studied appeared already at the 3rd week of therapy (p < 0.01). The greatest change occurred in the group of patients receiving the high dose of benfotiamine (p < 0.01 and 0.05, resp., compared to the othr groups). Metabolic control did not change over the study. It is concluded that benfotiamine is most effective in large doses, although even in smaller daily dosages, either in combination or in monotherapy, it is effective. Publication Types: Clinical Trial Randomized Controlled Trial PMID: 10219465 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] So it works for diabetics. What about its effectiveness for prostatitis related impotence ? "blueboy wrote while twiddling his thumbs and looking up at the sky in a daze....." > So it works for diabetics. > > What about its effectiveness for prostatitis related impotence ? Arghhh! Seriously bud, what is wrong with you Blueboy? This is a perfect example of a poster who ignores what has been written in this thread. This idiot prefers to be sarcastic instead of appreciative. After I suggest to him Milgamma-N "might" help him with his problem, and I tell him, " but, I don't have any prostatitis studies that verify Milgamma's effectiveness", the moron asks, "So Milgamma-N work's for diabetic's. What about about its effectiveness for prostatitis related impotence?" Blueboy, Blueboy......what is it you want from me?? Has your prostatitis effected your memory? I ALREADY replied to you in this thread that there were report's out of Europe, ( I DON'T HAVE THOSE REPORT'S ), that indicated Milgamma-N helped repair erectile nerves. I'll say it again! I DON'T HAVE ANY OF THOSE STUDIES, but the anecdotal the report's are that Milgamma-N is even more effective in healing nerves when taken over the span of a few months and at a HIGHER DOSES, (mg), per day! Look Blueboy, Milgamma-N is a nerve-healing medication. It is not a simple combo of vitamins. Milgamma-N ingredients: lipid-soluble vitamin B1 (benfothiamine), vitamin B6 and vitamin B12. It is a lipid-soluble formulation (as compared to OTC formulations which are water-soluble). Since lipids dissolve well in lipids, this formulation has been shown to penetrate nerves better than the water-based one, (since nerves are rich in lipids). Hey, Geek-Boy! Listen up! Milgamma-N has been shown to be effective for neuropathic pain control. As you may, or may not know, there are nerves in the genitoury area, and these nerves include the erectile nerves. I don't know if Milgamma-N will help you, but I was responding to a specific post in this newsgroup relating to nerve repair. I think there will be an evaluation in a double-blind placebo-controlled study soon, but I can't verify this. All I know about Milgamma-N is that you need to take it for a longer time and probably at higher doses for it to be effective for erectile dysfunction. Now, I gave you a "LEAD", "HINT", "CLUE, "TIP", ( or whatever you want to call it? ), about Milgamma-N Blueboy, and that's all I can do. I really don't know why your being so thankless and demanding of me with such a stupid question? I didn't have the study showing it was effective for prostatitis, so I thought it might help you to see a study, ( like the one below ), showing it was even more effective in neuropathic pain sufferer's by using large doses, ( Milgamma-N => more effective using higher doses => exactly what I have been telling you )..........BUT..........unfortunately...........the study was only specific towards painful diabetic neuropathy and not prostatitis. In ending, I really have to change to the format of this discussion Blueboy and ask you something for a change. We already know that I told you day's ago that anecdotal report's out of Europe revealed Milgamma-N was more effective at treating erectile dysfunction and nerve related pain when using higher doses. We also know that I told you that even though there were these report's, I "DID NOT" have any specific studies involving prostatitis. So, after ALL that I wrote in this thread regarding Milgamma-N, including my humble effort to help you with a tip when using the medicine, WHY are you asking me "So Milgamma-N work's for diabetic's. What about about its effectiveness for prostatitis related impotence?" I bet your brain feels as good as new Blueboy, seeing that you've never used it?? Seriously, if I ever need a brain transplant, I'd choose yours because I'd want a brain that had never been used. OY! Regards, ...:ø¤º°`......:::::Më:::::......`°º¤ø:... ø¤º°`°º¤ø,,,,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,,,,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,,,,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,,,,ø¤º° .Milgamma-N study below: ø¤º°`°º¤ø,,,,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,,,,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,,,,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,,,,ø¤º° 1: Arzneimittelforschung. 1999 Mar;49(3):220-4. Related Articles, Links Effectiveness of different benfotiamine dosage regimens in the treatment of painful diabetic neuropathy. Winkler G, Pal B, Nagybeganyi E, Ory I, Porochnavec M, Kempler P. 2nd Department of Internal Medicine, Municipal St. John's Hospital, Budapest, Hungary. The therapeutic effectiveness of a benfotiamine (CAS 22457-89-2)-vitamin B combination (Milgamma-N), administered in high (4 x 2 capsules/day, = 320 mg benfotiamine/day) and medium doses (3 x 1 capsules/day), was compared to a monotherapy with benfotiamine (Benfogamma) (3 x 1 tablets/day, = 150 mg benfotiamine/day) in diabetic patients suffering from painful peripheral diabetic neuropathy (DNP). In a 6-week open clinical trial, 36 patients (aged 40 to 70 yrs) having acceptable metabolic control (HbA1c < 8.0%) were randomly assigned to three groups, each of them comprising 12 participants. Neuropathy was assessed by five parameters: the pain sensation (evaluated by a modified analogue visual scale), the vibration sensation (measured with a tuning fork using the Riedel-Seyfert method) and the current perception threshold (CPT) on the peroneal nerve at 3 frequencies: 5, 250 and 2000 Hz). Parameters were registered at the beginning of the study and at the end of the 3rd and 6th week of therapy. An overall bneneficial therapeutic effect on the neuropathy status was observed in all three groups during the study, and a significant improvement in most of the parameters studied appeared already at the 3rd week of therapy (p < 0.01). The greatest change occurred in the group of patients receiving the high dose of benfotiamine (p < 0.01 and 0.05, resp., compared to the othr groups). Metabolic control did not change over the study. It is concluded that benfotiamine is most effective in large doses, although even in smaller daily dosages, either in combination or in monotherapy, it is effective. Publication Types: Clinical Trial Randomized Controlled Trial PMID: 10219465 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] ====================================== --- =============================================== I have scanned this email with a variety of Antivirus Software and certified Virus Free =============================================== > "blueboy wrote while twiddling his thumbs and looking up at the sky in a > daze....." [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > This is a perfect example of a poster who ignores what has been written in > this thread. This idiot prefers to be sarcastic instead of appreciative.... _______ Well, I guess you blew him off, Idea Man. Another rude and callous shot on your part. And please don't waste your time attacking me because I take issue with your recent behavior on our forum. Chill out. You are much too intelligent to allow yourself to fly off the handle. ______ blueboy; Levitra has a small reputation in its short history of being available in Europe, Australia, and the US for offering diabetics a better response than some other vasodilators, like Viagra. There isn't enough data to know if men post-RP get a better response from it. One thing does seem to be becoming clear and that is that Levitra has stronger negative side effect profile than Viagra or Cialis, especially in the area of stomach discomfort. But for some men it does work in the erection department, and well for some users. I believe strongly that men coming off whatever PCa therapy need to start working on building erectile function again as soon after healing as possible. Waiting gets the survivor nowhere. Vacuum pumping is a pleasant and passive activity which brings newly-oxygenated blood to penile tissues which haven't been getting much lately and also helps cleanse veins and arteries of built-up gunk which normal nocturnal erections (now rare) would clear out. Many savvy urologists are suggesting small daily doses of Viagra, Levitra, or Cialis every other day - because Cialis has a longer half-life - for PCa survivors. You may not get a steel sex-boner from this therapy, but very likely there will be some engorgement, increased blood flow to the area. Every little bit helps. Newly oxygenated blood encourages nerve regrowth; regrowth may be slow in coming but it does improve for many. I hope this helps. Jim Thanks for the response. Couldn't give a damn what ideaman thinks! I am a lazy arse who didn't read his thread properly. One question - what's a 'half life' on viagra, levitra etc ? And I did get a rock hard one from levitra two　times ago but not the last time that time was just suitable enough for penetration. These pills are ok but I just don't want to be dependent on them. If someone offered me an erection in 30 minutes or and erection in 3 months (in Germany, no less) I think I would opt for the one in 30 minutes. >"blueboy wrote while twiddling his thumbs and looking up at the sky in a >daze....." [quoted text clipped - 127 lines] >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.555 / Virus Database: 347 - Release Date: 2003-12-23 |
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