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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Prostatitis / November 2003

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RiverMan - 03 Nov 2003 04:08 GMT
I haven't posted here for probably at least a year but wanted to share
with those here some thoughts of mine.  Many of you are probably aware
of the research that has shown the link between increased incidence of
heart disease resulting from gum disease.  It has been shown that
bacteria in the mouth will travel throughout out body.  Given this,
doesn't it sound reasonable that gum disease (gingivitus, etc.) might
provide a constant source of bacteria leading directly to our urinary
tract/prostate?  If we were to have only a couple of bad spots in our
gums we would likely be swallowing literally millions of bacterial
cells.  Perhaps some of you here could say whether these cells would
then be capable of surviving the stomach/urinary environment.
Although I have always brushed and flossed, I recently began a regimen
of rinsing my mouth every morning for about 1 minute with a 50% water
and 50% hydrogen peroxide mix.  Hydrogen peroxide is a wonderfully
cheap antibacterial liquid that you can purchase in any pharmacy for
next to nothing.  I try to force the liquid into the gums by sucking
my cheeks in, kind of like you do if your drawing real hard on a straw
in a thick milkshake.  Since beginning this about 2 months ago I have
noticed a slow but continuous trend toward better prostate health.  I
recognize it may be coincidence but then again maybe not.  As a bonus,
my gums have shown a positive change in health.  Good luck to all of
you.

RM
niceshyguymiami - 03 Nov 2003 08:54 GMT
If Bacteria where traveling around your body you would turn green and die.

>I haven't posted here for probably at least a year but wanted to share
>with those here some thoughts of mine.  Many of you are probably aware
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>
>RM
Idea Man - 13 Nov 2003 22:38 GMT
"RiverMan"  wrote..

> Although I have always brushed and flossed, I recently began a regimen
> of rinsing my mouth every morning for about 1 minute with a 50% water
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> noticed a slow but continuous trend toward better prostate health.  I
> recognize it may be coincidence but then again maybe not.

How is your little experiment going Riverman?
RiverMan - 20 Nov 2003 03:44 GMT
I am still using the HP every morning, sometimes in the evening too.
I have not noted any dramatic improvements with the prostate altho my
conditions are very mild compared to what others have had to deal with
on this bb.  I still think that this approach may have merit however
and since I have tried virtually every other approach with no success
I see no reason to not continue.  Oh, and the HP probably costs me a
whopping 50 cents a month.

It's understood that our teeth and gums contain an enormous amount of
bacteria.  If then these bacteria are constantly being ingested it
would not be too surprising that some of them would be able to set up
camp in other parts of our body, perhaps even the prostate gland. We
may take antibiotics and various other nasty approaches to rid
ourselves of bacterial infection, it may even help for a period of
time, but the "never-ending source" coming from our teeth and gums
makes it impossible to completely eliminate them.

I'm curious as to whether or not any studies have been done in this
regard.  One could identify the bacterial strains in the mouth and see
if these same species are common the prostate gland.  It would be
interesting to know too if bacteria entering our digestive system via
the mouth can tolerate the pH of this journey.  Just some layman
thoughts.

Best regards

RM
Idea Man - 22 Nov 2003 01:56 GMT
"RiverMan"  wrote...

> I'm curious as to whether or not any studies have been done in this
> regard.  One could identify the bacterial strains in the mouth and see
> if these same species are common the prostate gland.  It would be
> interesting to know too if bacteria entering our digestive system via
> the mouth can tolerate the pH of this journey.  Just some layman
> thoughts.

Hi River.

Thanks for the update. In regard's to your speculation, there have been a
couple anecdotal report's of men with CPPS getting root canal's or a tooth
pulled, and then shortly afterwards becoming asymptomatic. Or they then have
a feeling of great improvement. Actually, I recall one fella who posted to
this newsgroup some time ago claiming something to that effect. You might
find one of his old post's in Google regarding his teeth and CPPS symptoms.
I myself had some information about the jaw, ( teeth & molar's ), and how
there is a connection between the nerves there and the pelvic region. I
don't recall where I have put it though as I have been working on some other
thing's at the moment and misplaced it. It is interesting. I have always
wondered if it would be worth it for some of us to have our tooth filling's
looked at again or possibly one or two old root canal's re-done? Actually,
there are special dentist's who actually dig down a bit further than regular
dentist's when they are removing a tooth and filling a root canal. You'd
have to look up why they prefer that method, but I think the reason is, is
that they feel this is a better method to avoid future root canal infections
and an accompanying systemic ailment. Don't quote me though.

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