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What Has Happened to This Newsgroup? - - - A Most Ungrateful Patient !!!

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John W. Polacheck, M.D. - 10 Sep 2008 01:56 GMT
About a month ago, Steve Malthus posted a message from a former patient
of mine who was most unhappy with his care here in Tucson.  Obviously, I
can not comment on the details of this "case" because of "medical
confidentiality".  But this report is full of inaccurate statements,
several of which I consider frank lies.  A Most Ungrateful Patient !!!

This is not the first time that posts like this have appeared on this
Newsgroup.  I can not understand why.

Patients like the one quoted, in general, have had their symptoms of
Chronic Prostatitis for several years before coming to be treated here
in Tucson at our Prostatitis Center.  Obviously, all their previous
treatments had failed, or they would not have come here.

It should be noted that all patients are told that their treatment
protocols will continue for several weeks, if not several months, after
they return home.  That is precisely what happened to "Name Suppressed".

He is saddened to learn that I am still in business.  I am saddened to
learn how ungrateful he is.  After all, he is now essentially cured.  I
am happy for him in that regard.  But I have no idea why he does not
even consider the possibility that his treatment here may have been
responsible for his cure.

Without revealing any specifics about his treatment, I will add that we
have isolated bacteria from the Expressed Prostate Secretions (EPS) from
virtually all our patients.  The laboratory then determines which
antibiotics will work most effectively.  In other words, we then use
directed antibiotic therapy: we do not "shoot in the dark".

Furthermore, patients are taught how to do effective prostate massages
at home, after they leave Tucson.  We believe that it is necessary for
patients to do prostate massages at least three times per week while
taking antibiotics for Prostatitis.  And, most of our patients do their
prostate massages at home more frequently than that.

Finally, I would like to emphasize that we empower patients to treat
themselves.  We have developed some mechanical devices/tools for
patients who are having trouble doing their prostate massages
themselves.  These devices have played a major role for patients: when
they leave Tucson: they can then treat themselves most effectively.

Respectfully submitted by John Polacheck, M.D.

E-mail address:   jpolach@dakotacom.net
c palmer - 10 Sep 2008 21:18 GMT
From: jpolacheck@earthlink.net (John W. Polacheck, M.D.)

About a month ago, Steve Malthus posted a message from a former patient
of mine who was most unhappy with his care here in Tucson. Obviously, I
can not comment on the details of this "case" because of "medical
confidentiality". But this report is full of inaccurate statements,
several of which I consider frank lies. A Most Ungrateful Patient !!!
This is not the first time that posts like this have appeared on this
Newsgroup. I can not understand why.
Patients like the one quoted, in general, have had their symptoms of
Chronic Prostatitis for several years before coming to be treated here
in Tucson at our Prostatitis Center. Obviously, all their previous
treatments had failed, or they would not have come here.
It should be noted that all patients are told that their treatment
protocols will continue for several weeks, if not several months, after
they return home. That is precisely what happened to "Name Suppressed".
He is saddened to learn that I am still in business. I am saddened to
learn how ungrateful he is. After all, he is now essentially cured. I am
happy for him in that regard. But I have no idea why he does not even
consider the possibility that his treatment here may have been
responsible for his cure.
Without revealing any specifics about his treatment, I will add that we
have isolated bacteria from the Expressed Prostate Secretions (EPS) from
virtually all our patients. The laboratory then determines which
antibiotics will work most effectively. In other words, we then use
directed antibiotic therapy: we do not "shoot in the dark".
Furthermore, patients are taught how to do effective prostate massages
at home, after they leave Tucson. We believe that it is necessary for
patients to do prostate massages at least three times per week while
taking antibiotics for Prostatitis. And, most of our patients do their
prostate massages at home more frequently than that.
Finally, I would like to emphasize that we empower patients to treat
themselves. We have developed some mechanical devices/tools for patients
who are having trouble doing their prostate massages themselves. These
devices have played a major role for patients: when they leave Tucson:
they can then treat themselves most effectively.
Respectfully submitted by John Polacheck, M.D.
E-mail address:   jpolach@dakotacom.net

===> hi dr. john...   i wouldn't lose any sleep over the post.

this is a world wide discussion newsgroup and anyone can write in and
say that they are someone else or munge their address.

but, let's say that he is a patient and that he really did write the
post.  it may be what he really feels and there is nothing that one can
do to change it.

i use to be a college professor and i flunked students when they failed
to pass the course.  i didn't do it to make their life miserable or
harder.  they simply did not get the information that was required to
pass the course.    yet, the college would give each student a form to
fill out on their opinion of the course.  do you think that they are
going to give me a good response???  no.  i'm mean,  evil, and a few
other choice words.   the student blamed me or the text book, or some
other thing, but they didn't blame themselves for failing the course.

have prostatitis is bad enough.  trying to treat it is even harder
because of the makeup of the prostate gland.  most men don't understand
that.   and this doesn't include things like chronic prostatitis and a
host of other symptoms that can happen.

so, if the patient didn't get 'cured' of their prostatitis due to some
unforeseen reason,  the patient wants to blame the doctor.

i, for one, am glad to see you are trying to make a happening in this
newsgroup.   i think that it's wonderful that a medical doctor is
willing to devote his time and trouble to help and i might mention at no
pay for doing this service.   what more can someone ask?

hang in there.  i'm in your corner and don't mind saying so.   but then,
i'm an old crusty fellow.... :))

might i extend an invite join in at the newsgroup .
alt.support.cancer.prostate.   you will be warmly welcome there.  

~ curtis

knowledge is power - growing old is mandatory - growing wise is optional    
"Many more men die with prostate cancer than of it. Growing old is
invariably fatal. Prostate cancer is only sometimes so."
http://community.webtv.net/PALMER_ENT/doc
John W. Polacheck, M.D. - 11 Sep 2008 01:39 GMT
> From: jpolacheck@earthlink.net (John W. Polacheck, M.D.)
>
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> so, if the patient didn't get 'cured' of their prostatitis due to some
> unforeseen reason,  the patient wants to blame the doctor......

BUT THIS PATIENT WAS CURED !!!!!

> i, for one, am glad to see you are trying to make a happening in this
> newsgroup.   i think that it's wonderful that a medical doctor is
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> hang in there.  i'm in your corner and don't mind saying so.   but then,
> i'm an old crusty fellow.....

THANKS ..............   JWP
c palmer - 12 Sep 2008 02:20 GMT
so, if the patient didn't get 'cured' of their prostatitis due to some
unforeseen reason, the patient wants to blame the doctor......
BUT THIS PATIENT WAS CURED !!!!!

====>hi dr. john -  well, this is just one of those examples that you
just can't please all the people, all of the time...

i remember having a conversation with a doctor and we were talking about
how a patient could come to them with a serious problem and would give
anything to get rid of their problem, whether it's a headache,  cancer,
heart attack or in this case, prostatiis.   money is not an issue at the
time.  the patient is willing to pay and is eager to accept any kind of
medical treatment to relieve their problem.

but AFTER the treatment,  things change.

all of a sudden,  the patient takes on a different approach and since
they no longer have this pressing medical problem,  they feel very
different in the relationship with the doctor and this had absolutely
nothing to do with the quality of medical care that they received from
them.

some  don't want to pay the bill due the doctor, maybe they don't speak
highly of the doctor and the list goes on.

maybe this patient falls into one of these categories.

it's just a shame that there are people who do this and give a black
mark to the medical community.

i hope that posters who are now lurkers will come back and join into
this newsgroup.  there are a lot of men who are lurking and are
suffering and because of the past couple of years of troll abuse at this
newsgroup,  have opted to sit on the side lines instead.

now, here's a topic that a lot of men don't know about.... prostate
stones.   maybe you might want to add some comments on that one.

i had them show up on the CRT screen when they were doing the biopsy on
me.

all the best,

~ curtis

knowledge is power - growing old is mandatory - growing wise is optional    
"Many more men die with prostate cancer than of it. Growing old is
invariably fatal. Prostate cancer is only sometimes so."
http://community.webtv.net/PALMER_ENT/doc
Robert E. Yorke - 14 Sep 2008 18:53 GMT
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>i hope that posters who are now lurkers will come back and join into
>this newsgroup.  there are a lot of men who are lurking and are
>suffering and because of the past couple of years of troll abuse at this
>newsgroup,  have opted to sit on the side lines instead.

I definitely agree; this NG has been hugely valuable to those
afflicted with this condition.  I personally would find the
contributions of others to be very valuable here...

>now, here's a topic that a lot of men don't know about.... prostate
>stones.   maybe you might want to add some comments on that one.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>invariably fatal. Prostate cancer is only sometimes so."
>http://community.webtv.net/PALMER_ENT/doc
 
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