Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Prostatitis / October 2003
cystoscopy/hydrodistension
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Idea Man - 21 Oct 2003 20:54 GMT Have any of you guy's had a cystoscopy and hydrodistension to rule out IC? What was your experience like?
As Elvis would say, " thankyou, thankyou very much".
Beach Runner@nospam.com - 23 Oct 2003 14:22 GMT > Have any of you guy's had a cystoscopy and hydrodistension to rule out IC? > What was your experience like? > > As Elvis would say, " thankyou, thankyou very much". If you have a cystoscopy, there are at least 2 types, soft and rigid. The difference is like day and night. Don't let anyone near you with a stiff probe, it hurts 100x more and I've never been the same since. The soft probe is nothing.
Bob
c palmer - 23 Oct 2003 16:02 GMT hi idea man - are you sure you don't mean hydroextension? i don't know of hydroinstension, but i had the cystoscopy/hydroextension on september 30th.
it was not done for IC though. i had a surgery in april for removal of the prostate due to cancer and i've been having scaring problems where they sewn everything back together again and couldn't pee. that, plus they had to reduce the size of your bladder and you don't hold as much urine.
i had the csytoscopy and dilatation of stricture in july. this is where they go in and look around and stretch the scar tissue. i was hooked up to an iv table. i was told i would be in a 'rolling sleep' i asked what that meant and was told that i would drift in and out of awareness. well, after i got on the operating table, that was it. i don't remember anything until 20 minutes later when they were cleaning me up.
in sept, i had the same joy juice. i like it because it behaves like when you get a tooth filled with gas. after it leaves you body, and it leaves fairly fast, you have no after effects or sickness.
i know after the sept operation, i can still pee like a race horse and my bladder size would dump 250ml to 350ml before i went in and right afterwards, i dumped my bladder to the tune of a whopping 550ml. it has since dropped back to around 350ml all the time.
if they do a csytoscope, they usually fill the bladder up with water, but that doesn't mean they are going to do a hydroextension. a hydroextension is where they 'stretch' the bladder by pressurizing the bladder for a period of 8 minutes to stretch the tissue. in my case, i had trauma to the bladder itself and could see why, but i would have to wonder if they used that procedure on a person who hasn't had any problems.
and yes, there is a different between the rigid and flexible scope.
i hope this answered your question.
~ curtis
knowledge is power - growing old is mandatory - growing wise is optional
Idea Man - 23 Oct 2003 17:51 GMT "c palmer" wrote...
> if they do a csytoscope, they usually fill the bladder up with water, > but that doesn't mean they are going to do a hydroextension. a [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > wonder if they used that procedure on a person who hasn't had any > problems. Thanks for your account, Palmer. Glad your able to void with more ease these days! I have always thought it was hydrodistension, or hydrodistenTion, not hydroextension? Anyhow, as you say, it is the procedure where they fill the bladder in a check for IC. Sounds like you went through the procedure and enjoyed the gas....hehe....I'm wondering if anyone else has had any side effects due to the trauma of bladder filling, and the rigid scope.
Regards.
c palmer - 23 Oct 2003 23:49 GMT hi idea man - i don't know if what you are doing to have done is going to involve using a catheter for the day afterwards - mine did, but then again - my body has been through hell. my comment is this - there are two types of catheters, a latex model and a silicon model. i found the silicon model easier on the body.
by the way, when my prostate hit the path. table after surgery, they said that i had CP as well as prostate stones in it. i didn't have, but one major bout with CP and that was back in 1996, yet when you get told you had evidence of CP for all those years, does make you scratch your head, because i didn't have the pain but i did have other symptoms that i thought went along with the BPH conditions. who knows??? all i know is that little puppy had a lot of problems with it. enlarged to twice it's size, BPH, prostatitis, prostate stones, and cancer. when it crapped out, it crapped out big time.
~ curtis
knowledge is power - growing old is mandatory - growing wise is optional
Idea Man - 24 Oct 2003 23:40 GMT "c palmer" wrote...
> by the way, when my prostate hit the path. table after surgery, they > said that i had CP as well as prostate stones in it. i didn't have, > but one major bout with CP and that was back in 1996, yet when you get > told you had evidence of CP for all those years, does make you scratch > your head, because i didn't have the pain but i did have other symptoms > that i thought went along with the BPH conditions. who knows??? Thanks for the account, Palmer.
That's very interesting you did not have pain or symptoms of chronic prostatitis all those years, ( except in 1996 ), yet when your prostate was removed at a later date, they found a stone and evidence of the CP suggesting you had it all along and didn't even know it. You mention not having chronic prostatitis symptoms all those years, but you did have other prostatic problems. You may be interested to know that some researchers feel there is a relationship between prostatitis, BPH, and prostate cancer. They might wonder if your bout of chronic prostatitis back in 96 was related to your eventual prostate cancer? There's not much research yet on the topic. Oh, and I'm not making any claims.
Anyhow, I understand the significance of a found stone, but I'm not sure what you mean by the found evidence of CP? Does this mean that the doctor viewed inflammation in your gland once it was out? How big was the stone and do you know what part of the gland it was located?
Thanks for anymore of your comments. Regards.
c palmer - 25 Oct 2003 06:19 GMT hi idea man - you have the wrong picture on the prostate stones. 75% of men have them by the time they are in their 50's and 100% have them by the time they are in the 70's. and we aren't talking about one or two stones. to find out more about them, do a web search on prostate stones and see what turns up.
i didn't know that much about them until i lit up like a christmas tree with the probe up my butt. i have an excellent relationship with the surgeon and when he called everyone over in the operating room to look at the monitor and talked about how they stood out, i asked him, "what" stood out and that is when he went over to the machine and ran off 4 pictures of my prostate by ultrasound (like women get with their baby) and showed me what he was looking at.
i did ask him what happens if they get infected and he said they have to come out, but didn't say "how".
so, add this to my other posts, and only having the one bout with CP and having "many" prostate stones, and no pain, it makes one wonder what's going on when someone is in sheer pain with an inflamed prostate.
for what's in worth, they are finding a link between a gene and prostate cancer. this is why one person can have prostatitis all his life and not get cancer, and someone else never has any problem and gets pca.
the things they don't tell you and you own one of those prostates. i mean a boy ought to be told that there are two times his prostate will grow, at puberty and after age 25. that it can get inflamed, that the prostate has a tendency to goes cancerous when a man is in his 60's - doesn't mean everyone's will, but if one knew, you will be watching out for it and make sure it doesn't kill you.
and if you are african american, or if you have a first relative (father, brother) that has prostate cancer, you are considered high-risk.
as far as addressing how the doctor viewed the prostate as CP. he is a trained professional and that is all he does is look at these all day long, so my guess, is that there is probably some type of scaring - make sense, because when the body gets irritated, it's scars - and the scars are probably old scars. but that is just an educated guess.
the information that i'm telling should not be new, but probably is to a lot of people. i didn't find out most of it until i was in my 50's and i read a lot.
hope this information helps.
~ curtis
knowledge is power - growing old is mandatory - growing wise is optional
Idea Man - 23 Oct 2003 17:45 GMT <Beach wrote..
> If you have a cystoscopy, there are at least 2 types, soft and rigid. The > difference is like > day and night. Don't let anyone near you with a stiff probe, it hurts 100x > more > and I've never been the same since. The soft probe is nothing. Thanks for the comment. From my understanding they would use the rigid cystoscopy instead of the flexible scope for hydrodistension, ( stretching bladder ). This normally happens when there is a check for IC. Where's Sven Garlick when you need him? Hehe...
Sorry you had side effects from rigid scope procedure, Beach. Did they check you for IC? What negative changes did you experience after that? This is actually what I am wondering about.
Regards.
Beach Runner@nospam.com - 25 Oct 2003 15:20 GMT > <Beach wrote.. > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Regards. Rigid ones hurt.
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