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My Living Nightmare from Hell

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Unkownpelvicpain - 20 Oct 2003 01:50 GMT
Hello to all,
I've been suffering from what I guess is prostatitis for over 6 months now. I
will tell you my story as brief as I can and maybe  someone out there can offer
me some good advice or something I should ask my Dr.’s. I’ve been fighting
this disease relentlessly  for over 6 months with severe symptoms and can’t
take it anymore.
Here it goes:
It started off about  1 week after having oral and vaginal sex with a woman I
picked up in a bar. This happened after 13 years of a monogamous marriage. I
don’t need to be flamed for the cheating as one Dr.
Already  cited verses from the Bible at me. 1 week after the sexual encounter I
started having burning pain
On the shaft of my penis. I went to the local health dept. and got tested for
all the std’s. The nurse there said
My urine had some whit blood cells in it so she treated me for chlamydia. Of
course  the test results take a few days but she treated me anyway and gave me
a solution to drink and a pill I think it was zithromax.
Well the next day I felt fine no symptoms, but the day after that the pain came
back with a vengeance. I went
To the local E.R. told them the story and they did a urethral swab and gave me
some kind of a shot and put me on doxy for 10 days. Well after a week I get
worse now pins and needles pain in thighs. There was never
Any discharge or visible signs and it didn’t burn when I voided but it still
didn’t feel right. So I go to Uro # 1. He says my urine is clean, looks me
over , says I look fine and gives me some flowmax samples and tells me to
finish out the doxy and should be fine. Well a week later and still in bad
shape. Go back to Uro and he says urine is clean you look fine and gives me
Amytriptolyn. (Forgive any spelling errors I didn’t go to med school ) Well
that wasn’t working so I try a Dermatologist. He says I have scrotodynia and
puts me on neurotin. Well none of this works so I seek out another Uro. I go to
Uro #2 he says my urine is clean but puts me on cipro for 4 weeks then come
back and see me. Well the symptoms start to get worse now with severe lower
back pain. I call for emergency visits with Uro#2 and he says stick with the
cipro. He wouldn’t give me any thing for pain because he said he "doesn’t
go there" even though I was eating Motrin, Aspirin,
Tylenol like crazy and none of them touched the pain. The pain was so bad I
would call the office Dr. on call over the weekends. One put me on Bactrim
,paridium and Urised. Then finally Uro#2 gives me a prescription for Lydocain
ointment because now the pain increased to  what felt like a piece of glass
lodged in the tip of my penis. Pain is getting  excruciating so I go into uro#2
for another emergency visit. He throws
His hands up in the air and says I don’t know what’s wrong with you so I am
going to send you in for a CT scan for stones and then I am  going to scope
your bladder.  The following day I was still in severe pain and
Couldn’t stand it (The burning, the pinching feeling at the tip, The lower
back pain) Uro#2 wasn’t going to do anything for my pain (I refer to him now
as Dr. Frankenstein) So off to the E.R. I go again. I tell my story
And they take blood and urine I wait there for results and they can’t find
anything . The E.R. doc said some of the tests would take a few days ex: Auto
Immune Ghoneria and the like and that if anything bad turned up they would call
me.
In the meantime they sent me home with a prescription  for a Prendizone
pack(steroids) You take 6 the first day then 5 then 4 and so on. It seemed to
help the first couple of days then back Downhill. I go in for the CT scan for
stones, of course it comes back normal. I seek out a new Uro but have to wait 4
weeks to get in.
So I try a family Dr. Tell him the story and he does another  swab for
chlamydia puts me on  Flagyl and Zithromax plus I am still taking the Cipro. I
quit the bactrim because it made me sick. While I was waiting on Dr.
Frankenstein to do my cystoscopy I called the soon to be Uro #3 Office. I
forgot to tell you that I had posted a question on Medhelp.ORG earlier and that
DR. told me to get a prostate secretion test. I pleaded with Dr. Frankenstein
to do this procedure but he kept on saying it was unwarranted because my urine
kept coming up clean.
So now Uro#3. I called the nurse there and asked if I could get a prostate
secretion test performed so the results would be in for my first app. With
Uro#3. They said come on in. I get there they have me void in
Two different cups then they did the prostate massage they put secretions on
some slides then I voided a final time. It was in that last urine sample they I
had a white blood cell count called TNT or too many to count. They immediately
sent me to the hospital for a CT scan of my prostate checking for an abscess.
And put me on Arithmiocyn Or  ERY-TABs And Lortab 7.5 for the pain. The CT scan
comes back showing Inflammation And Lots of Pustules in my prostate. They were
unable to grow anything on my culture (Maybe because of all the Drugs I was
taking?) But At least I finally stopped 80% of the pain with the lortab. Uro#3
says my symptoms should be signifantly better in seven days. Well you guessed
it, NOT! So he does a cystoscope and says my sphincter muscle The on you can
control to stop and start urine flow was in a spasming state. So he puts me
On Baclofin. A week of this and it makes me sick so they take me off the
baclofin and put me on Valium.
Well weeks of this goes by and nothing changes so he thinks it my be nerve
related. Back to the hospital I go this time for a MRI of my back. This comes
back showing a herniated disk at L5 or L4 I forget so he sends me to a
Neurologist now. This dr. looks at my films and says no way  is the herniated
disk causing your penis problems and try’s to  refer me to an Infectious
disease Dr. who refuses to see me unless they Identify that I have an
Infectious disease. So now Its Off to Uro#4. This Dr. is at a major university
teaching hospital. He’s a great Dr. willing to try anything. We tried
Lydocain  injections directly into the nerves of my prostate along with
massage. Transrectal ultrasound. Another Cystoscope which revealed my Sphincter
was fine so he took me off the valium. We tried 1 gram Vancomyocin IV with
steroids directly into my prostate.
That seemed to help some so ten days later we Tried  1 Gram Vanco IV with 20ml
of Gentomyicin Injected
Directly into my prostate. I go off all the drugs for a week and I start
climbing the walls with pain.
So My wife picks up the phone and gets me an appointment into the Cleveland
Clinic. So Here I am
Had my first appointment down here in Florida. I voided into a machine and that
checked out ok. On the exam the Dr. pushed on my left and right pelvic floor
muscles and I almost dropped to the floor in pain. It takes 7 days to try and
grow the cultures So I am in a hotel awaiting my follow up appointment tomorrow
the 20th Oct. They took me off the lortab put me on Ultram which seems not to
make me feel drugged up and works almost as good as lortab. So all I am taking
now is Ultram 2 times a day Prosta Q for a week and a half now and Senna lax so
I can make a bowel movement. I know this huge post is allot to read but I am in
desperate need of help as I know allot of my fellow sufferers are too but maybe
there is someone out there lurking with the same story as mine and
Is cured and can help me. Thanks for letting me Rant!

Please help:
Unkownpelvicpain - 20 Oct 2003 02:01 GMT
P.S. I will post my lab results of both urine and semen on here Monday night.
swantzswanson - 20 Oct 2003 23:59 GMT
> P.S. I will post my lab results of both urine and semen on here Monday night.

SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE A BAD CASE OF MYOSITIS.
I HAVE IT ALSO AND TAKE 100 MG OF TRAMADOL 2 TIMES A DAY AND 5 MG OF
VALIUM 2 TIMES A DAY. HELPS SOME BUT I STILL HAVE A LOT OF PAIN.
YOUR CASE SOUNDS EXACTLY LIKE MINE.
GOOD LUCK
Unkownpelvicpain - 21 Oct 2003 14:46 GMT
 

I had my follow up with the Dr. down here in Florida. My urine and prostate
secretions came back negative. The semen came back positive for 500 cfu/ml
coagulase negative staphylococcus. The Dr. says this is nothing to worry about
and that over 60% of men have this amount in their semen. I will try and start
biofeedback and muscle massage next week.
Seems like I felt much better for the 3 days following my last pelvic floor
massage then I went downhill again.

yesterday I had another massage and this morning I feel pretty good again. Maby
I am finally on the right path.

BTW Thanks for you email MEL. It was very inspirational to me. Gave me some
hope.

Thanks.
Steve - 20 Oct 2003 13:49 GMT
< All too familiar story snipped>

What a depressing sequence of events.  Unfortunately, it's all too
familiar.  That is why I stopped the doctor merry-go-round quite a
while ago and decided to just try and live with it.  Some days are OK,
some are intolerable. I have a set of symptoms similar to yours.

Even if the state of knowledge was sufficient to actually diagnose and
solve the problem there is little chance that any of these doctors
would be able to do so given their assembly-line, 10 minutes in and out
approach.  Every time I go back to a Uro... even after two weeks... it
is not uncommon for him to ask "now what are we treating you for?".

In my experience, which is unfortunately extensive and not just with
prostate problems, in 90% of the cases the doctors don't have a clue
what the problem is or, if they do, what is causing it and/or how to
cure it.  The problem either resolves itself or it kills you.  Their
"treatments" only serve to make it worse, impoverish you, and enrich
them.

I hope you get an answer that satisfies you and that you get relief.  
Please let us know.

Steve
niceshyguymiami - 21 Oct 2003 06:13 GMT
>So all I am taking
>now is Ultram 2 times a day Prosta Q for a week and a half now and Senna lax
>so
>I can make a bowel movement.

Gee I wonder which doctor gave you the
"Prosta Q". Did he resemble a bald headed little maggot? Ba ha ha !!!!

Unkownpelvicpain from your name I would guess that you know about Chronic
Pelvic Pain Syndrome and I am guessing this is sham post to promote the
Cleveland Clinic and the wonders of Prosata -Q.

On the off chance that this is a real post form a real poster. You need realize
that this is a "pain" condition. You have only had it for six months. You may
have it for a year or two or three - good news is that with time it gets much
better.

I would continue taking antibiotics in smaller doses. Perhaps you should try
Tequin but take half the normal dose every other day. Cipro no longer covers
all the bugs that can live up your a.s.

While on the abx preform prostate massage on yourself with a stiff dildo like
object or have someone do it for you with their finger. There are sites where
you can learn how to do it.

>Two different cups then they did the prostate massage they put secretions on
>some slides then I voided a final time.

It is the same kind of prostate massage you have already had but it needs to be
repeated. You are getting pain killers, and you are lucky to get them. I would
try xanax or valium for sleep.

You need to come to grips with your pain and learn to live with it. You are
getting Prosta-Q at the Cleveland Clinic which is a food coloring -- snake oil.
They have nothing better to give you. You need to come to grips with the pain
and divert your mind from it.

You will not get better by obsessing on your condition and prostatitis does
burn itself out over time.

Do yourself a favor - go sit in a hot sitz bath for THREE HOURS - then massage
your gland and then jack off. You need to be on antibiotics when you do this.

Do this for the next three months - exactly as I am telling you to do it. Then
when you are all better send me $10,000 for the advice.
niceshyguymiami - 21 Oct 2003 06:33 GMT
>I went
>To the local E.R. told them the story and they did a urethral swab and gave
>me
>some kind of a shot and put me on doxy for 10 days. Well after a week I get
>worse now pins and needles pain in thighs.

There have been a few cases where the person was treated with doxy after dirty
sex and they develope prostatitis - why is doxy given??? It is ok for STDs but
the STD provides a gateway into the prostate for E-Coli and other bacteria
which doxy cannot kill in the prostate.

I am not a big fan of quinlonones, but 10 days of Cipro instead of doxy may
have done the trick - as it is - this guy is screwed, because of the choice of
antibiotics.
AndrewsFunk - 22 Oct 2003 04:13 GMT
The question was raised on this thread concerning testicle pain.  If you can
get your doctor to try Elavil, it might be of service.  It has helped me
somewhat but I can't take the full recommended dose because of the sedative
effect.  Some people are less sensitive in this respect, so it might be worth a
try.

Tom A
Jonathan Miller - 23 Oct 2003 17:10 GMT
> The question was raised on this thread concerning testicle pain.  If you can
> get your doctor to try Elavil, it might be of service.  It has helped me
> somewhat but I can't take the full recommended dose because of the sedative
> effect.  Some people are less sensitive in this respect, so it might be worth a
> try.

And I can't take it at all because even at the lowest dosage it causes
racking diarrhea that magnifies the testicular pain by 100s.  What's 100
times 5 on a scale of 1 to 10?

Jon Miller
Jonathan Miller - 21 Oct 2003 07:32 GMT
<snip painful story>

Mine is similar but with no infidelity.  The only things I have are "normal
flora".

The pain has settled in the testicles.  ("Orchitis of unknown etiology."
English:  "His balls hurt and we don't know why.")  I can sort of function
with enough opiates and 3000 mg/day of Neurontin.  Not good if I need to
drive or function either physically or mentally.

Summary:

1.  The infidelity may well have had nothing to do with it.  Or it may.  Who
knows.

2.  The worst case:  you might go through a whole lot of running around and
end up in serious pain.  But it might get better, either all by itself or
because someone catches just the right thing.

Start working on things that aren't a cure but help treat the symptoms.
Maybe accupuncture, physical therapy, avoiding caffeine or alcohol, using
pain meds, non-traditional treatments.  Things that only cost money but
aren't dangerous are reasonable.  Surgery, by the way, is frequently
unsuccessful and has the potential for complications.

Jon Miller
 
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