I have that kind of pain low left abdomen, sometimes right, referring
to the genitals, but also all the way down my left leg, also
drastically weakening that leg....but a lumbar mri turned up a benign
tumor in a tangle of nerves that surgeons dont want to touch......stay
after the docs, there will be one somewhere that will not rest until
he/she finds the answer. i dont know if an internal medicine doctor
would be a better start than an md, but maybe...perhaps a neurologist
since you have travelling, referring pain...a nerve or 2 are probably
involved, but keep looking, and heck ask for referralls to see if
anyone has expertise in asymptomatic illness...put your symptoms into
web md or the like...just my thoughts, but its worth a shot. it may
take a lot of frustrating time to find the right doc, but in time you
might. Finally, as disgusted as i am with mayo clinic, if you go
there, they will set you up with an array of specialist, sometimes
youll see 4 or 5 in one day, and they test the crap out of stuff, just
a thought, and they have an ok website too

good luck
-dave

No indications of appendicitis (generally rare)?

Is it like gut cramps? Considered Irritable Bowel Syndrome?

Why do you assume "referring"?

Had mri etc of lo-back? Did it show Degenerative Disk Disease?

My ortho sez testicular pain *can* be referred from lo-back
problems i.e. herniated disk. Don't know this would be
consistent with your description of abdominal pain, 'tho.

Any other info might be very helpful. Age?

 Puddin'

"Mit der Dummheit kaempfen Goetter selbst vergebens!"
  -Friedrich Schiller

Hi JD, and thanks for your post.

Your story reminds me of my chronic pain issue a lot. I have always
suffered from numerious tiny kidney stones, and there came a point
where I thought my pain at my "lower left flanke" (whatever that
means) was just another large stone. It wasn't. Back when I was
covered with insurance, mainly under the COBRA act, I tried
everything. I used my insurance for all I could get. I an an operation
in which they looked for adhesions (but to get the insurance to cover
it, they said they were fixing my navel hernia- which they also did.)
Conclusion: No Adhesions.

I should clarify: I had a large kidney sugery on the tube that links
the kidney to the bladder. My tube was being choked my a vein- I was
born this way, and it's not all that unheard of. Well for two years
after the operation I was pain free..... Then it all hit me, and it's
always at least a dull pain, but often becomes extremely sharp like a
level 9 or 10 level pain. It almost feels like one of my nuts is being
crushed, thus the reason I thought it was a stone. Test after test,
and even an operation show most everything is good. At least, nothing
bad enough to cause me this much pain. I wish they made a Pain Level
Meter!

Just like you, they cant prove nor disprove my pain. It really sucks
because although I have a great doctor (general doc) trips to pain
clinics, and other doctors and there tests all say I should not be in
pain. It has all pretty much came down to one likely possibility for
me: There is a condition in which post sugery nerves regenerate in a
funky/wrong way. After they regenerate in time, they can constantly
send a pain message to the brain. Personally I think thats my
problem.... and I think my doctor almost thinks this too. I had every
test in the book. But I didnt have an MRI. An MRI was not covered...
and now I have no insurance. Even if I had an MRI I dont know if it
could show something as small as one of the nerves around the tube
that feeds my bladder from my kidney.

My operation was on the tube that feeds the bladder from the kidney..
it's the place most kidney stones get stuck. This tube was being
choked by a vein. The doc cut the tube, leaving the vein, and routed
it around the vein so it would no longer be restrained. Two years I
was pain free.. then WHAM! At first I thought it was a stone stuck.
Instead its the mystery pain that has never left me. Without pain
medication I can not function, and I really have tried too.

I hope they find your problem. May I ask if you ever had an operation
near where the pain is? Or perhaps, have you ever had an injury near
where it hurts? Nerves can do weird stuff. And it's almost impossible
to prove/disprove. It sucks, because it gets in the way of making a
living.

I wish you well, and pray you can go pain free.

No_Money

Diverticulitis? It caused me similar problems.

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