I'm a 34-yr-old man. Not married. No sex at all for long periods of
time.
I had some genital pain, etc. (not caused by sex-related stuff).
The urologist recommended some tests.
- PSA test result: no problem detected (normal)
- Infection test result: yes, serious infection
Infection... where? not sure... "genital infection (inside)"
I don't have any problems in my urinary tract (NO urge to urinate,
NO pain)
Urologist recommended antibiotic treatment (ciprofloxacin pills,
1 pill 500mg every 12 hours during 7 days, then 1/2 pill [250mg]
every 12 hours during 7 days more)... then repeat the infection
tests....... and he added "stop the vitamins, stop dairy products
[milk, yogurt] during 1 month, and drink 10 glasses of water
every day"
Cipro was not cheap (I paid US$15)
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First day (1000mg of ciprofloxacin)....... no problems
Second day (1000mg again)......... strange vision problems, stomach
problems, strange nightmares, strange feelings, very strange pain in
my ankles area (both ankles) probably achilles tendon-related....
some problems when walking...and other strange symptoms.
I knew nothing about Cipro.....
I googled "ciprofloxacin" and found this.....
- http://www.westonaprice.org/healthissues/cipro.html
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ciprofloxacin
- http://www.fqresearch.org
I decided to stop Cipro. NEVER AGAIN !!!
I'm seriously worried.... some people say just a few Cipro pills
can cause PERMANENT LIFETIME TENDON PROBLEMS and
lots of other problems.... is this true? I just had 2 days of cipro!
I THINK THIS IS A POISON !!!
I don't care about the infection... Cipro is much worse.
NOW WHAT ?
Should I return to this urologist? I'm sure he tried to help me,
but...
Should I forget about this urologist and contact a different urologist?
I read some urologists ignore Cipro and use this...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amoxicillin
No problems with the Amoxicillin?
What happens if I forget about all this and ignore the infection?
Thanks for any advice you can give me.
T - 31 Aug 2006 23:44 GMT
> I'm a 34-yr-old man. Not married. No sex at all for long periods of
> time.
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> - PSA test result: no problem detected (normal)
> - Infection test result: yes, serious infection
Well, then it's not prostate, or at least perhaps not. Something like
azithromycin sounds like it would be more appropriate.
> Infection... where? not sure... "genital infection (inside)"
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> Cipro was not cheap (I paid US$15)
US $15 is a relatively cheap co-payment. Consider yourself lucky.
The tapering 1/2 dosage for another 7 days sounds awefully strange.
He might have gone overboard in his suggestion about "stop the vitamins,
stop dairly products [milk, yogurt] during the month.
Cipro like azithromycin love to bond. But only in the digestive tract. If
taking either of these, you should take at least an hour before calcium,
magnesium, zinc and a whole host of other minerals/metals. You can take
these drugs with a meal that doesn't consist of a dairy meal and in which
you don't take your vitamins. If there is dairy in the meal, it's not so
much a problem. But if your dinner consist of a large container of Dannon
No Fat, No Added Sugar Yogurt and vitamins, well, take at least an hour
before or many hours afterwards. If XR forumlations (which you didn't get)
we're talking 2 hours before a dairy meal and vitamins and 6 hours after
such a meal.
I happen to be on Cipro and the Dannon Yogurt is there for a reason. Active
yogurt cultures. Antibiotics kill certain bacteria indescriminately. Kill
those off and you're not only looking at bad digestion but open up the gates
for yeast.
As far as the side effects of Cipro, they are many and varied. They also
include insomnia and other interesting things. But we're not talking Vioxx
here. The symptoms are things your body eventually adjusts to and there's
no killer, destroyer results. Yes, expect stomach problems (but you cannot
take anti-acids), the strange vision problems, feelings, nightmares, yes
they are side effects. You seem to have had a stronger reaction than most.
As far as your citations, people die outright from taking penicillin. Cipro
has side effects. Most of what you've quoted sounds really scary. But the
drug is very popular because it is relatively safe and because it works.
You've decided to talk yourself into this drug being a killer. It isn't.
And the progression of drug resistence is why there is ongoing development
of new antibiotics.
You are one of a million men in the US alone who received a prescription for
Cipro on the very same day.
The adverse reactions your having should be immediately reported to your
doctor. These are tracked and reported. That's how eventually drugs are
recalled or their use is limited.
Calm down a bit, huh?
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> Thanks for any advice you can give me.
T - 01 Sep 2006 00:58 GMT
I guess I didn't answer your real question, should you return to this
urologist?
Dude, this sounds like a general practicioner and a gp's approach. You are
either on a very rigid insurance program which limits what the urologist can
do or you haven't gone to see a real urologist. Strangely enough, there
seem to be more active gp's than there are active (as in getting something
useful done) urologists, based on what I hear from other guys.
NC - 02 Sep 2006 18:12 GMT
> I'm a 34-yr-old man. Not married. No sex at all for long periods of
> time.
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> Thanks for any advice you can give me.
Cipro is known to cause tendon problems in some individuals. It never caused
me any problems. But there are other antibiotics that you could try.
Amoxicilin may work. Bactrim (Sulfamethoxazole/trimethoprim) available in
generic has worked for me. And if your infection is in the prostate, 14 days
of ABX is not usually sufficient. 30 days is recommended.
I used to pay up to $5 a pill for Cipro before it became a generic. If you
stay on that, ask for generic.
davidtfull - 21 Sep 2006 04:09 GMT
vntq@myway.com a écrit :
> First day (1000mg of ciprofloxacin)....... no problems
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> can cause PERMANENT LIFETIME TENDON PROBLEMS and
> lots of other problems.... is this true? I just had 2 days of cipro!
Yes it is true concerning the adr profile of the quinolones of which
cipro is one of many. Just log unto the quinolone forum hosted by
Yahoo and you will find thousands of individuals whose lifes have been
destroyed by the careless use of these drugs. Recently the Attorney
General of the State of Illinois here in the United States as well as
Public Citizen have both filed a petition with the FDA seeking BLACK
BOX WARNINGS for these drugs. They have a forty year history of severe
toxicity and PERMANENT adverse reactions which has been totally ignored
by the medical community. I will not argue that these drugs have a
place in medicene for they do, but ONLY as a drug of last resort when
all else has failed. They are NOT to be considered a first line agent.
As far as their use for prostatisis even this is questionable as less
than 5% of the cases of prostatisis are even bacterial in nature. I
beg to differ with the response that states these drugs are not fatal
in some cases. They are. For full documentation just log unto
www.fqresearch.org and review the 4000 plus medical journal entries,
case reports, etc. that detail the horrific adverse profile of these
drugs. More than half of these drugs have been withdrawn from clinical
use for killing patients. Fatal Liver damage, kidney failure,
spontaneous tendon rupture, DNA damage, TENS, heart attacks and
strokes, fatal hypo and hyperglycemia, and blindness have all been
associated with this class of chemotherapuedic agents. The saddest
part is that the treating physician has no knowledge concerning such
reactions and continues to hand these drugs out like Halloween Candy
and when the patient presents with these severe and often time
permanent adverse reactions they deny that the drug is responsible. I
also speak from experince being both blinded and crippled by these
drugs for over six years now.
I wish you well and hope and pray that your injuries are temporary and
resolve soon and do not turn into a life time of chronic pain.
Regards,
David T. Fuller
Director
Fluoroquinolone Toxicity Research Foundation
www.fqresearch.org