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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Prostate Cancer / February 2007

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Hugh Kearnley - 05 Feb 2007 10:52 GMT
I already have what I assume is an adequate intake of Lycopeine from fresh
and processed tomatoes.
I eat a head of broccoli in some or another form daily.  I'm a chilli-head,
so get a fair dose of Capsaicin.

But recently bought at Holland & Barret in UK, a shebang of supplements,
some of which I now realise are of too low a dosage to be of much practical
use. I'm confused too, about some of the labels. SOME doses are marked in
various gram amounts while others are marked in i.u. amounts.
An example is Co-Q10 - the tablets are 30mg to be taken 3 times a day. I saw
one reference that a meaningful dose should be MUCH higher.
Another - Selenium dose is 100ug - once a day - is that enough?
Vitamin D - very interesting recent stuff - The Vitamin D sold by Holland &
Barret and supposedly the strongest available is 10 ug (400 i.u.) and
although I stressed that I wanted Vit D3, it does not say that on the
label - so it might not be Cholecalciferol I'm taking.
The Milk Thistle is 175 mg taken 3 times a day.
Pomegranate Extract has a quite baffling label so I wont say anything more
on that.
I Stopped taking the Soya Isoflavones (for geneisten) because I've read
somewhere that some other isoflavone in the compound can be harmful in PCa

WOULD some kind soul who has more knowledge than I do, please post up a list
of food supplements thought to be helpful in PCa, together with a realistic
daily dose?
I'm certain I wouldn't be the only guy to benefit from that.
Thanks.
HUGHIE
Ed Friedman - 05 Feb 2007 18:58 GMT
> I already have what I assume is an adequate intake of Lycopeine from fresh
> and processed tomatoes.
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> Thanks.
> HUGHIE

You might want to check out:
http://www.prostatepointers.org/leibowitz/vitaminlist.10103.html

Ed Friedman
Hugh Kearnley - 05 Feb 2007 20:27 GMT
Good Lord Almighty!
Not JUST wasted money - but DANGEROUS too. Fuckit.
Thanks Ed.
Hughie.

> You might want to check out:
> http://www.prostatepointers.org/leibowitz/vitaminlist.10103.html
>
> Ed Friedman
Ed Friedman - 05 Feb 2007 23:05 GMT
> Good Lord Almighty!
> Not JUST wasted money - but DANGEROUS too. Fuckit.
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>>
>>Ed Friedman

Hugh,

You might want to know that Dr. Leibowitz has modified his stance on
zinc as listed on that site.  He now views zinc as neutral in normal
dosages with regards to prostate cancer, although 150mg or more a day is
still dangerous.

Also, his warning against soy products and other phytoestrogens has to
be taken with a grain of salt.  All of his patients are on Proscar (5
mg. finasteride per day), and according to my model, such patients are
much more sensitive to the negative effects of phytoestrogens than
ordinary people would be.  Therefore, the results he observed are
accurate, but the severity he observed only applies to patients taking
Proscar (or Avodart).  On the other hand, I've received e-mail from one
man who had his PSA go from 2.5 to 17.5 in 18 months while taking soy
milk at every meal and flaxseed at every breakfast (he started this in
an attempt to lower his cholesterol).  He had no idea he had prostate
cancer until his biopsy when his PSA was 17.5.

Ed Friedman

Ed Friedman
ron - 06 Feb 2007 01:51 GMT
On Feb 5, 3:52 am, "Hugh Kearnley" <hughkearn...@btinternet.com>
wrote...snip...
please post up a list of food supplements thought to be helpful in
PCa, together with a realistic daily dose?

Hi Hugh...Here is a link that may prove helpful.

http://cancer.ucsf.edu/crc/nutrition.php

It takes you to a UCSF website.  Once there, click on "Nutrition and
Prostate Cancer" to download a PDF file on nutrition and PCa.  The
article covers diet, supplements, herbs, etc.  It even provides some
recipes!..Best wishes and good health, ron
Hugh Kearnley - 06 Feb 2007 08:32 GMT
Excellent reference.
Thankyou, Ron. All the best.
Hughie

> On Feb 5, 3:52 am, "Hugh Kearnley" <hughkearn...@btinternet.com>
> wrote...snip...
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> article covers diet, supplements, herbs, etc.  It even provides some
> recipes!..Best wishes and good health, ron
 
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