Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Prostate Cancer / August 2006
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limey - 29 Jul 2006 20:23 GMT According to the range given on my husband's lab test printout, normal range for his age is 0.0 to 4.0.
I however, am terrified. In 2004 (the last time he was tested), his reading was 4.0. A couple of weeks ago, he asked for another test, which came back at a staggering 66.5. Yes, you read correctly.
Our internist is obviously alarmed, as well he should be. (He diagnosed an enlarged prostate in August 2005 but didn't bother to have a PSA test run.) My husband was sent immediately to a urologist, who diagnosed cancer even before the biopsy (which is to be performed on August 7).
Say a prayer for him - and for me. We're babes in the woods on this.
Dora
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RR - 30 Jul 2006 06:13 GMT Dora,
Not like many other cancers - PC is curable (RP or other methods), Be strong and help him out trough the rough seas to come.
Best of luck RR
>According to the range given on my husband's lab test printout, normal range >for his age is 0.0 to 4.0. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >Dora limey - 30 Jul 2006 15:13 GMT "RR" wrote >
> Dora, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Best of luck > RR Thank you, RR. I plan to be strong; otherwise, I won't be an asset. It's a new, untrodden path, though, where knowledge empowers. I'm working on it, with help from this group.
Dora
Buttercup's Dad - 31 Jul 2006 13:03 GMT You are both in my prayers Dora.
But for a more immediate practical approach I recommend that you start reading and researching the treatment alternatives and related side effects now. And gather information on the treatment centers and physicians available in your area. It is very important to be well informed for the decisions that are ahead.
Good luck to you both.
David S.
> According to the range given on my husband's lab test printout, normal range > for his age is 0.0 to 4.0. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Dora JYewMD@gmail.com - 08 Aug 2006 01:36 GMT PSA is highly variable. It can be elevated due to many things like: cancer, BPH/enlarged prostate, UTI, sex, rectal exam or trauma, perineal trauma, etc.. It seems odd for his PSA to go from 4 to 66, even over a 2 year period. I would highly recommend repeating the PSA.. maybe even twice. I still think he should see a urologist, and likely agree with the need for a biopsy. But, if he does have cancer and his PSA is actually in the 4-20 range, he has much better prognosis than if it truly is in the 60's.
Best wishes. === http://www.DrYew.com http://www.SanDiegoRoboticProstatectomy.com
> According to the range given on my husband's lab test printout, normal range > for his age is 0.0 to 4.0. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Dora limey - 09 Aug 2006 20:49 GMT Thank you for responding. Henry had the biopsy on Monday and a CT scan of the chest plus a bone scan last week. Neither of those scans was favorable, plus an additional finding is emphysema. He is taking all this very stoically.
Preliminary verdict, before the pathologist's report, is that Henry has advanced prostate cancer which is now in the bones. He also needs a bladder evaluation. The path report will be available on Monday. Unfortunately, all this time he has been taking Android, which the urologist immediately stopped.
Dora
> PSA is highly variable. It can be elevated due to many things like: > cancer, BPH/enlarged prostate, UTI, sex, rectal exam or trauma, [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] >> >> Dora Steve Jordan - 09 Aug 2006 21:56 GMT On August 9, Dora wrote:
> Thank you for responding. Henry had the biopsy on Monday and a CT > scan of the chest plus a bone scan last week. Neither of those scans [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Monday. Unfortunately, all this time he has been taking Android, which > the urologist immediately stopped. Please clarify something. I cannot find any listing, for example on rxlist.com, for any medication named "Android."
Also: it appears that Henry is well beyond the point where a urologist, which is a surgeon, is capable of dealing with the PCa. I most earnestly recommend that Henry immediately consult a medical oncologist, which is a cancer specialist.
Henry can refer himself, if necessary. Others have done exactly that.
Regards,
Steve J
> Dora > [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] >>> >>> Dora NICK - 09 Aug 2006 23:37 GMT > Please clarify something. I cannot find any listing, for example on > rxlist.com, for any medication named "Android." FDA Orange Book Appendix A June 2006 http://www.fda.gov/cder/orange/appendis_a.pdf
JUNE 2005 - APPROVED DRUG PRODUCTS LIST APPENDIX A
ANDRODERM, TESTOSTERONE ANDROGEL, TESTOSTERONE ANDROID 10, METHYLTESTOSTERONE ANDROID 25, METHYLTESTOSTERONE
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Prescription and Over-the-Counter Drug Product List: 11/2005
METHYLTESTOSTERONE TABLET; ORAL ANDROID 10 VALEANT PHARM INTL 10MG ANDROID 25 VALEANT PHARM INTL 25MG
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DOD BLOOD DONOR GUIDE ACCEPTABLE NOTE ANDROID YES steroid ANDROID YES, unless Rx for cancer or aplastic hormone
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From a paper on the FDA's site: Obesity, particularly ANDROID, or abdominal obesity, increases CAD risk.
Steve Jordan - 10 Aug 2006 00:21 GMT Quoting me:
> Please clarify something. I cannot find any listing, for example on > rxlist.com, for any medication named "Android." > He responded:
> FDA Orange Book Appendix A June 2006 > (snip)
> ANDRODERM, TESTOSTERONE > ANDROGEL, TESTOSTERONE > ANDROID 10, METHYLTESTOSTERONE > ANDROID 25, METHYLTESTOSTERONE > (snip)
Bingo. Searching rxlist.com for Android 10, I found it. The missing "10" (and "25") spoiled the search. It's methyltestosterone. Illustrates that accuracy is all-important when posting.
I have to wonder why a uro, whose specialty is *surgery* would feel competent to prescribe such meds. Ego, maybe?
Regards and thanks,
Steve J
limey - 10 Aug 2006 00:40 GMT > Quoting me: >> Please clarify something. I cannot find any listing, for example on [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Steve J No, Henry was put on Android several years ago by our internist. The urologist immediately told him to stop taking it since it was testosterone, which feeds the cancer.
Dora
Steve Jordan - 10 Aug 2006 00:53 GMT On August 9, Dora replied to me:
> No, Henry was put on Android several years ago by our internist. The > urologist immediately told him to stop taking it since it was > testosterone, which feeds the cancer. OK, fair enough.
Regards,
Steve J
Peter Headland - 09 Aug 2006 22:30 GMT > Thank you for responding. Henry had the biopsy on Monday and a CT scan of > the chest plus a bone scan last week. Neither of those scans was favorable I'm very, very sorry to hear this. You may find it worthwhile posting to alt.support.cancer.prostate, which seems to have more contributors than this group.
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Admin@DrYew.com - 13 Aug 2006 06:48 GMT Sorry to hear this development. I agree with stopping the Android as well. I'd recommend seeking a medical oncologist for consideration of hormone therapies (eg. Lupron) versus chemo (docetaxel vs. docetaxel + Lupron) for metastatic prostate cancer. Unfortunately, a urologist won't offer much help. Most surgery (eg. robotic laparoscopic prostatectomy) would not be indicated now that there seems to be evidence of spread already. If he is having local symptoms such as difficult voiding or blood in the urine, then he may need to see a urologist. I'm assuming he already has one since he had a biopsy. Best wishes. The chemo regimens now are much better and more tolerable than even a few years ago, so keep hope alive! === http://www.DrYew.com http://www.SanDiegoRoboticProstatectomy.com
> Thank you for responding. Henry had the biopsy on Monday and a CT scan of > the chest plus a bone scan last week. Neither of those scans was favorable, [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > >> > >> Dora
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