Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Prostate Cancer / May 2006
U.K. Prostate Cancer Study Questions Benefits.....
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George Conklin - 29 May 2006 15:56 GMT Prostate therapy benefits doubted
Many men diagnosed with low-grade prostate cancer do not benefit from radical treatment, research suggests. The researchers calculated that, even without treatment, only about 1% of men aged 55-59 with diagnosed low-grade disease would die within 15 years.
Side effects of radical treatment such as surgery and radiotherapy can include incontinence and impotence.
The Department of Health said its advisers would consider the Institute of Cancer Research findings.
The study appears in the British Journal of Cancer.
The decision whether to have radical treatment can be tremendously difficult for the patient Dr Chris Parker
Prostate cancer is the most commonly diagnosed male cancer in the UK.
Nearly 32,000 new cases are diagnosed, and around 10,000 men die from the disease, each year.
At present, men diagnosed with the disease may undergo radical treatment - either surgery to remove the prostate or radiotherapy.
Alternatively, they may simply be managed by observation - a technique known as watchful waiting.
The Institute of Cancer Research team found that radical treatment was only effective for men with high-grade disease.
In those cases they calculated that, without treatment, up to 68% could die from prostate cancer.
Difficult decision
Researcher Dr Chris Parker said: "Most men with prostate cancer detected by PSA screening will live out their natural span without the disease ever causing them any ill effects.
"The decision whether to have radical treatment can be tremendously difficult for the patient.
"The results of trials looking at the long-term survival benefit of radical treatment are several years away.
"So, this new information on the potential impact of treatment on overall survival will be of great interest to men faced with this decision."
Dr Parker said his team was trialling a new prostate cancer management technique called active surveillance.
This aims to target treatment only at those who need it by closely monitoring patients for signs of disease progression.
Preliminary results of this technique have been encouraging.
Types of cell
High-grade prostate cancers are made up of undifferentiated cells, which can reproduce quickly, speeding growth of the tumour.
Low-grade tumours are made up of differentiated cells which do not reproduce at the same speed.
Chris Hiley, from the Prostate Cancer Charity, said: "Decision making on treatment for prostate cancer is not straightforward for anyone involved, but we hope that these results might make explaining options and possible outcomes to patients easier for doctors.
"Clearly, some men with a prostate cancer diagnosis will always prefer an operation to cut it out or radiotherapy to treat the cancer.
"This new evidence shows men mustn't be left to overestimate the survival advantage that such an option would give them."
Dr Emma Knight, of Cancer Research UK, said: "It is important to stress that these results are only predictions.
"Data from ongoing clinical trials should, in time, portray the pros and cons of treatment versus monitoring more accurately."
The Department of Health said the findings would be considered by its Prostate Cancer Advisory Group.
Story from BBC NEWS: http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/health/5012142.stm
ralphv_in_az@yahoo.com - 29 May 2006 17:16 GMT The problem I see with studies such as the BJC one is the fact that in press releases, the true nature of the study is misinterpreted and what comes to light is that treatments for early disease (as discovered by screening with PSA) do not provide a survival benefit (and invariably affect the QOL of the patient). The model does not directly account for age and Gleason score, which are important covariates in modelling survival from prostate cancer.
To resolve this the authors went to the med lit to obtain some survival data in men treated conservatively. They used the Albertsen P et al study which monitored the survival of 767 men from the Connecticut Tumor Registry with localized prostate cancer diagnosed between 1971 and 1984, treated conservatively and followed up for a median of 24 years. (note that this data is pre-PSA data). Based on this and other mathematical manipulations (involving lead-time and overdetection) they did their calculations and came out with the study results.
Reading the conclusions of the study by Parker C et al does clarify the issue. This is a modeling exercise. In other words, it is a mathematical calculation that depending on the data input predicts results. The authors, rightfully so, caution on interpreting results and yet what is published in the press is that treatment is ineffective. This is nothing new in the confused world of PCa. Just one more step to make the issue more confusing.
Why then the authors ignored the history of the natural course of untreated prostate cancer? It has been almost ten years since significant data was published in Sweden. Age and tumor grade (differentiation) had a significant impact in prostate cancer mortality. Why is the reality of actual data not considered when developing a mathematical model? Read on:
In a retrospective study 6890 patients with prostate cancer from theNorth Swedish Cancer Register were analyzed according to cancer specific survival. Prostate cancer mortality was 40% in patients with well-differentiated cancers, 54% in patients with moderate-differentiated prostate cancer and 72% in men with low-differentiated prostate cancer. Prostate cancer mortality was 80% in men younger than 60 years, 63% in men 60-69 years old, 53% in men 70-79 years old and 49% in men older than 80 years.
Source: Damber JE, Gronberg H.[Mortality due to prostatic carcinoma in northern Sweden] Urologe A. 1996 Nov;35(6):443-5 PMID: 9064879 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
The reality is that at this point the decision to treat or not should belong to the patient. Data such as reported by the Swedish study above should enter in the decision making process of current patients.
Experts that tell us that there is overtreatment cannot distinguish (at this point in time) who benefits and who doesn't with any degree of significant clarity or even with how much overtreatment exists. Figures are bounced off the wall from 80% down to low teens. There is a recognized and significant amount of understaging in the interpretation of biopsy results. Based on this and on the fact that since the inception of PCa screening, disease-specific mortality is being reduced, until further clarified, screening should be encouraged rather than discouraged and educated patients should decide what to do for their own benefit. Patient education to the risk of prostate cancer is the only avenue presently available.
This is one more example on how to manipulate data to fit purpose. In this case to proclaim the indolence of PCa. This while mortality in the UK is increasing...
Source: Vercelli M, Quaglia A, Marani E, Parodi S. Prostate cancer incidence and mortality trends among elderly and adult Europeans. Crit Rev Oncol Hematol. 2000 Aug;35(2):133-44. PMID: 10936470 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
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George Conklin - 30 May 2006 15:17 GMT > The problem I see with studies such as the BJC one is the fact that in > press releases, the true nature of the study is misinterpreted and what [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > age and Gleason score, which are important covariates in modelling > survival from prostate cancer. Actually what you do below is change the subject.... I suggest you deal with the article posted.
> To resolve this the authors went to the med lit to obtain some survival > data in men treated conservatively. They used the Albertsen P et al > study which monitored the survival of 767 men from the Connecticut Again, you have changed the subject. They claim 1% progression......
> Tumor Registry with localized prostate cancer diagnosed between 1971 > and 1984, treated conservatively and followed up for a median of 24 [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > their own benefit. Patient education to the risk of prostate cancer is > the only avenue presently available. UK does not screen asymptomatic patients. They also have the same trends we do, and are supposed to be healthier overall than we are.
ralphv_in_az@yahoo.com - 31 May 2006 14:33 GMT > > The problem I see with studies such as the BJC one is the fact that in > > press releases, the true nature of the study is misinterpreted and what [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Actually what you do below is change the subject.... I suggest you deal > with the article posted. RV>+++++++++> As usual, YOU are the one not addressing the issue and running with the ball with results that are calculated and not REAL. Garbage in, garbage out...
> > To resolve this the authors went to the med lit to obtain some survival > > data in men treated conservatively. They used the Albertsen P et al > > study which monitored the survival of 767 men from the Connecticut > > Again, you have changed the subject. They claim 1% progression...... RV>++++++++> They claim 1% progression in their calculation which is an obvious contradiction of what happened when untreated PCa follows a natural course even for early disease. Why did they ignore THAT data in constructing their model?
> > Tumor Registry with localized prostate cancer diagnosed between 1971 > > and 1984, treated conservatively and followed up for a median of 24 [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > UK does not screen asymptomatic patients. They also have the same > trends we do, and are supposed to be healthier overall than we are. RV>+++++++++++++> The first part of the statement is not true. The PCa mortality trend there is not the same as ours. The fact that they are healthier than us has nothing to do with this study. You are changing the topic.
George Conklin - 31 May 2006 23:16 GMT > > > The problem I see with studies such as the BJC one is the fact that in > > > press releases, the true nature of the study is misinterpreted and what [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > course even for early disease. Why did they ignore THAT data in > constructing their model? You would need to ask them. I am going to assume that a major research article looks at more than the usual self-selected population in most studies.
ron - 29 May 2006 19:24 GMT Most men diagnosed at age 55-60 would be expected to live considerably longer than 15 years if they were to live out their statistically projected years. So 99% odds of making it 15 years doesn't provide much useful information for these men. Two studies have been presented at recent AUA meetings. Tewari (last year) and Albertsen (this year) have shown survival advantages for men treated by RP as opposed to observation. One of the keys is that this survival advantage takes 8 or so years to emerge. Therefor, studies with median follow-ups less than this time will show no survival advantage. Albertsen shows that low-risk men who elect observation have a risk of death from PCa that is 3.8 greater than that for their RP-treated counterparts. These longer-term studies are just starting to appear, hopefully peer-reviewed papers will follow...ron
American Urological Association Annual Meeting May 20 - 25, 2006 Atlanta, Georgia, USA
Publishing #: 652 Presentation Title: Ten Year Outcomes Following Treatment for Clinically Localized Prostate Cancer: A Population Based Study Category: 43 Localized Author Block: Peter C. Albertsen*, Farmington, CT; James A. Hanley, Montreal, PQCanada; David F. Penson, Los Angeles, CA; Judith Fine, Farmington, CT
Introduction and Objective: No data from randomized trials are available to compare treatment outcomes among men diagnosed with localized prostate cancer as a result of screening. A retrospective, population-based outcomes analysis of men diagnosed in Connecticut with localized prostate cancer between 1990 and 1992 was performed to estimate prostate cancer specific survival and all cause survival following surgery (n=806), radiation (n=703) or observation (n=114).
Methods: Analyses were conducted using an intention to treat perspective. Two approaches were utilized: a proportional hazards model and a classification system separating patients into low, intermediate and high risk disease. The proportional hazards model included Gleason score, pre-treatment PSA, clinical stage, age at diagnosis and co-morbidities. The classification system utilized Gleason score, pre-treatment PSA and clinical stage.
Results: After an average follow up of 11.8 years, 11% of the cohort have died from prostate cancer, 4% from other cancers, and 23% from non-cancer causes. Patients undergoing surgery tended to be younger and have a more favorable distribution of histology and lower pre-treatment PSA values when compared to patients undergoing radiation. Patients electing observation tended to be older and had a more favorable profile. After adjusting for differences in patient characteristics, the men undergoing surgery had consistently better cause-specific survival when compared to men undergoing radiation or observation. Survival differences for men with low risk disease did not become apparent until 8 years following diagnosis, for men with intermediate disease, about 4 years following diagnosis and men with high risk disease, almost immediately. The risk of death from prostate cancer for men undergoing radiation versus surgery was 3.2, 2.5 and 2.2 times greater for low, moderate and high risk disease respectively. The risk of death from prostate cancer for men undergoing observation versus surgery was 3.8, 2.3, and 3.3 times greater for men with low, moderate and high risk disease respectively. There was no difference in cause-specific survival between men receiving radiation and observation although there may be a small trend in favor of radiation for men with high risk disease.
Conclusions: Patients undergoing surgery for clinically localized prostate cancer appear to have a survival advantage that increases in magnitude over ten years when compared to men electing either radiation or observation.
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