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When to draw blood for PSA?

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Flycaster - 18 May 2005 14:18 GMT
Are PSA readings affected by the timing of the digital exam.  That is,
will level of the PSA reading vary with when (either before or after
blood is drawn) the digital exam is given?  If you have references, I'd
appreciae it.  Thanks.

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Leonard Evens - 18 May 2005 14:31 GMT
> Are PSA readings affected by the timing of the digital exam.  That is,
> will level of the PSA reading vary with when (either before or after
> blood is drawn) the digital exam is given?  If you have references, I'd
> appreciae it.  Thanks.

According to patrick Walsh in "Guide to Surviving Prostate Cancer",
many things can affect the PSA reading.   These include sex, DRE, and
several other things.  It is best to wait a few days after a DRE before
giving the blood sample.
Ed Friedman - 18 May 2005 17:14 GMT
> Are PSA readings affected by the timing of the digital exam.  That is,
> will level of the PSA reading vary with when (either before or after
> blood is drawn) the digital exam is given?  If you have references, I'd
> appreciae it.  Thanks.

There has been a paper published about this, but I don't have the
reference handy.  Basically, 30 minutes after a DRE, the PSA goes up an
average of 0.4.

Ed Friedman
Flycaster - 18 May 2005 17:36 GMT
>> Are PSA readings affected by the timing of the digital exam.  That
>> is, will level of the PSA reading vary with when (either before or
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> Ed Friedman

When my urologist gave me a DRE and then shortly thereafter he drew
blood for a PSA, I asked him about the accuracy of the PSA under this
condition.  He said it didn't matter which was done first.  So, an
average of 0.4 bump in PSA seems to go along with his reply as this
doesn't seem to be too significant a change.

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ron - 18 May 2005 18:40 GMT
Flycaster wrote...snip...
> When my urologist gave me a DRE and then shortly thereafter he drew
> blood for a PSA, I asked him about the accuracy of the PSA under this

> condition.  He said it didn't matter which was done first.  So, an
> average of 0.4 bump in PSA seems to go along with his reply as this
> doesn't seem to be too significant a change.

There are a number of studies on the effect of DRE prior to blood draw
upon PSA level (you can find them on PubMed).  Increases larger than
0.4 ng/ml are typically observed.  These studies have led the medical
community to adopt a post-blood draw DRE procedure.  Aside from
confusing the individual reading, prostate manipulation prior to blood
draw will also confuse the trend in the PSA over time.  An increase
this time, no increase next time, will make it harder to discern the
trend and delay diagnosis and confuse prognosis...Best wishes and good
health, Ron
 
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