Michael,
I think I know what he means. He told me the same thing after he did a PVP
on me. He is saying that less then one in three men will still be suffering
from retrograde ejaculation three months after the surgery is done, if the
surgeon was able to preserve the muscle tissue around bladder neck. By
inference, I assume that many more men will suffer some temporary retro
prior to the three month period. He told me that after my surgery that he
was able to preserve that tissue in me. It has been 41 days since my
surgery and I do have retro most of the time. I'm hopeful that it will work
completely normal in time. If and when it starts to work normally. I will
miss the retro. There are definite advantages to leaving the work area
neat and clean for both you and her. Think about it.
Dave
> What does this mean??
> I asked Dr.Lin if there was ejaculation after PVP.
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> tissue around the bladder neck was preserved during the surgery. fromDr
> Lin.
Michael Balarama - 10 Sep 2003 19:10 GMT
is retro the same feeling of "climax" as normal messy ejaculation?
thanks Michael
> Michael,
> I think I know what he means. He told me the same thing after he did a PVP
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> miss the retro. There are definite advantages to leaving the work area
> neat and clean for both you and her. Think about it.
> Dave
> > What does this mean??
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> > tissue around the bladder neck was preserved during the surgery. fromDr
> > Lin.
David DeBar - 10 Sep 2003 20:26 GMT
From what I have read on this NG the feeling associated with climax during
retro varies greatly from man to man. Some men report that they are very
dissatisfied. There was a guy who called himself "haditdone" who was very
bitter about the fact that he had retro post PVP. As for me, the first
orgasm I had (Three weeks after PVP) felt very strange. It felt like the
flow was blocked. I recall a similar feeling when I was a young man and
wore a condom for the first time. It was a thick, very tight condom with no
reservoir end. I put it on tightly and when I ejaculated the load was not
allowed to come out and I felt the back pressure/obstruction. If you read
my "Bimodal Retro" posting above, you will see that I did ejaculate normally
the second time I had sex (Clinton would not call it sex). Now I can no
longer tell if I'm ejaculating or not. It feels good to me.
Dave
> is retro the same feeling of "climax" as normal messy ejaculation?
> thanks Michael
coldrink - 12 Sep 2003 13:56 GMT
Hello David,
I had a TURP on July 29. I seemed to have had great success with it, at
least so far. I am not an advocate of TURP. I did not even know about PVP
until I stumbled upon this newsgroup. If I had, I'm sure I would have been
trying to go that rout. But I didn't know about it and the doctor never
mentioned it as an option so what's done is done. This group is much more
informed than I am so
I'm wondering if anyone knows the odds of not having retrograde ejaculation
after the TURP. I do not have the retrograde and sexually, everything is
just as good as it was before my surgery. Does anyone know the percentage of
guys having the TURP who do not have retrograde? Is it like winning the
lottery or something?
My doctor was very surprised when told him I was
completely normal in that area so it must not be very common.
coldrink
> Michael,
> I think I know what he means. He told me the same thing after he did a PVP
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> > tissue around the bladder neck was preserved during the surgery. fromDr
> > Lin.
Derry Argue - 12 Sep 2003 20:07 GMT
> Does anyone know the percentage of
> guys having the TURP who do not have retrograde? Is it like winning the
> lottery or something?
It is like winning the lottery. My uro estimates 100% of his TURP cases
will have retro. But others are more optimistic.
Derry
Nealnospam@invalid.co - 12 Sep 2003 22:38 GMT
>Hello David,
>
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>mentioned it as an option so what's done is done. This group is much more
>informed than I am
misinformed and misleading would be a more accurate description
SNIP
Bear in mind that NGs such as this one are infected with shrills, cons
and suchlike pushing 'fringe' practices such as those being pushed on
this particular NG.
This NG is particularly susceptible to such practices.
BEWARE - and take professional advice on all things affecting your
health .
Jack - 13 Sep 2003 00:40 GMT
> Bear in mind that NGs such as this one are infected with shrills, cons
> and suchlike pushing 'fringe' practices such as those being pushed on
> this particular NG.
>
> This NG is particularly susceptible to such practices.
If we are such shrills, and cons why are you here?
Jack
Derry Argue - 13 Sep 2003 01:44 GMT
>> Bear in mind that NGs such as this one are infected with shrills,
> cons
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> If we are such shrills, and cons why are you here?
> Jack
Because he's a troll?
Carl - 15 Oct 2003 02:28 GMT
I think he meant "shill", not shrill. A shill is a person, often paid
by the "house" or an advertiser to attract people to the product.
Phoebe
> > Bear in mind that NGs such as this one are infected with shrills,
> cons
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> If we are such shrills, and cons why are you here?
> Jack