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- 11 Dec 2004 22:34 GMT
The Jan/Feb AARP magazine lists Prolieve as an alternative to PVP,
apparently non-surgical. Has anybody had any experience with this, or
thoughts about it? AARP says 60% get relief with this.

Jesse
Derek F. - 12 Dec 2004 00:10 GMT
> The Jan/Feb AARP magazine lists Prolieve as an alternative to PVP,
> apparently non-surgical. Has anybody had any experience with this, or
> thoughts about it? AARP says 60% get relief with this.
>
> Jesse

Also known as or similar to TUMT (TransUrethral Microwave Thermotherapy )
Derek.
Richard - 12 Dec 2004 14:21 GMT
See http://www.fda.gov/cdrh/MDA/DOCS/p030006.html for further
information. It seems that in addition to thermotherapy the Prolieve
procedure (unlike other TUMT systems) also involves balloon compression
of the prostate.

Entertainingly, my web search revealed that Prolieve is also the name
of a hormone cream for menopausal women. Don't get the two mixed up, or
you might have unexpected side effects! (Of course, female hormones do
shrink the prostate, I believe...)

Richard Slessor
Derek F. - 12 Dec 2004 19:20 GMT
> See http://www.fda.gov/cdrh/MDA/DOCS/p030006.html for further
> information. It seems that in addition to thermotherapy the Prolieve
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> Richard Slessor

We had a recent comedy series on British TV featuring a village Doctor. He
was puzzled by the number of his male patients who were growing breasts. It
transpired that they were all the lovers of a born again menopausal
nymphomaniac who was applying the cream liberally to her person.
Derek.
TAP - 12 Dec 2004 14:09 GMT
Prolieve is the Celsion Microwave (TUMT).  It is nothing new.  I was one of
the Phase 2 clinical trial members in 2001 who got no improvement from it.
The company has been trying for several years to get FDA approval for the
device.  I guess they finally got approval.

It is a TUMT with the added benefit of balloon dilation.

> The Jan/Feb AARP magazine lists Prolieve as an alternative to PVP,
> apparently non-surgical. Has anybody had any experience with this, or
> thoughts about it? AARP says 60% get relief with this.
>
> Jesse
dog4dogg@yahoo.com - 12 Dec 2004 21:13 GMT
I saw that AARP article too. Good read. If anyone has not checked it
out, I found the excerpt--
"When drugs aren't enough, the standard surgery, transurethral
resection of the prostate (TURP), expands the hole through the middle
of the gland. TURP gets the job done 80 percent of the time, but this
Roto-Rooter-like treatment usually requires a hospital stay and can
cause sexual problems: 5 to 10 percent of TURP patients have a hard
time getting erections. (Viagra and similar drugs are prescribed for
this.)

In the past decade, a dozen less-invasive outpatient techniques have
become available, each less likely to cause side effects than TURP.
Most of these thread tiny catheters through the penis into the
prostate, where excess tissue is blasted away with lasers, microwaves,
or radio waves. One of the latest, Prolieve, combines microwaves with a
balloon that compresses the prostate. About 60 percent of patients get
relief from their symptoms with Prolieve, which causes ED only 1
percent of the time."
http://www.aarp.org/health/Articles/a2004-11-29-mag-weeproblem.html
jay1000 - 12 Dec 2004 22:28 GMT
> The Jan/Feb AARP magazine lists Prolieve as an alternative to PVP,
> apparently non-surgical. Has anybody had any experience with this, or
> thoughts about it? AARP says 60% get relief with this.
>
> Jesse

"Prolieve?
Prolieve? Thermodilatation System is a transurethral microwave thermotherapy
(TUMT) device that also uses a special balloon catheter to open up (dilate)
the urethra, as well as microwave energy to heat and destroy enlarged
prostatic tissue. In this procedure, the balloon catheter is filled with
warm water. After the temperature of the tissue returns to normal, the
urethra remains open. Prolieve?, which takes about 45 minutes, is performed
in a physician?s office under local anesthesia. In a recent study, about 5%
of patients required catheterization following the procedure. "

It has all the advantages and disadvantages of  conventional TUMT except for
a much lower incidence of catheterization.  I recall conventional TUMT being
100% requiring catheterization.

Absolutely NG for median-lobe ball-valve BPH.  Probably of interest to a
small sub-set of BPH patients.  Might be difficult to locate a uro with lots
of experience with this procedure.
TAP - 13 Dec 2004 00:00 GMT
Like I had said previously, Prolieve is nothing new.  I was one of 120 men
in the Phase 2 trial of the device.  It is a milder TUMT with a balloon
dialation of the prostatic urethra.

I had it done in November 2001.  For a month, because of the ballon
dialation I had good flow.  But then all synptoms returned.

I then had a PVP in June 2002 and am fine ever since.

Prolieve is useless on a large median lobe.

Patrick

>> The Jan/Feb AARP magazine lists Prolieve as an alternative to PVP,
>> apparently non-surgical. Has anybody had any experience with this, or
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> small sub-set of BPH patients.  Might be difficult to locate a uro with
> lots of experience with this procedure.
daddyo - 15 Dec 2004 01:04 GMT
last year I spent some time on the prostate cancer group and I
remember a few postings which stated that radiation therapy for cancer
was not possible on a previously microwaved prostate. Surgery was the
only option. Something to consider if contemplating a microwave job.

richie  

>> The Jan/Feb AARP magazine lists Prolieve as an alternative to PVP,
>> apparently non-surgical. Has anybody had any experience with this, or
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>small sub-set of BPH patients.  Might be difficult to locate a uro with lots
>of experience with this procedure.
 
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