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Lloyd - 01 Dec 2004 14:45 GMT
I've been reading this group for several months and now I must avail myself
of your accumulated wisdom.

This is my history.  I am 53, overweight and live near Charlotte, North
Carolina.  I had an episode of urinating blood back in June of this year.
The blood would keep dripping even after my urine flow stopped. When the
bleeding eventually stopped, it would start again the next time I urinated.
Eventually, I would pee several times without bleeding and then, without
warning, I would pee and start bleeding again.  I went to the urologist and
he performed a DRE and said I had an enlarged prostate.  He also ran a PSA
test and that turned out to be around 2.0.  He performed a cystoscopy and
informed me that he needed for me to go to the hospital so he could do a
biopsy.  During the cysto, he had seen a spot on my bladder that needed a
closer look and he had seen a growth in my urethra.  After the biopsy, he
said that he had removed a papilloma from my urethra and that the spot on my
bladder was of no consequence.  The papilloma was the source of my bleeding
and the pathology results on it showed that it was not malignant(Thank
God!).

After all this, the BPH still needed to be addressed.  I have had symptoms
for over a year(hesitancy at night, urgency, frequent need to urinate small
amounts).  After a follow-up cysto to see if the papilloma was re-growing, I
was discussing the BPH symptoms with the uro and he had me come back for a
flow test.  After the flow test he put me on Uroxatral.  The side
effects(mainly dizziness) were annoying for a few days but they went away.
The Uroxatral has helped mostly with the nighttime hesitancy.  I've been on
the drug for about 6 weeks and this past Monday, I went for another flow
test.  Not a lot of improvement there.  95ml total with a max rate of
10ml/sec.  The uro said that I had improved over my first test but not a
tremendous amount.  He said the next step would need to be one of the
prostate reduction procedures.  I have a rectal ultrasound scheduled for
Jan. so he can determine whether to do a TUNA or a TUMT(CoreTherm System).
There was no discussion of doing a PVP.  I don' think his group has the
laser.  He said that the procedure would be done in the office under local
anesthesia.  He also said that I would need to wear a catheter for about 2
weeks.

So here are my concerns.  I don't like the idea of local anesthesia.  I was
put under for the biopsy, so why can't I be put under for the TUNA or the
TUMT.   People can be put under to have dental work done and this is a lot
more involved that any dental work I've ever had done.  I think that pain
management is a valid concern and the fact that I will have a needle put
through my rectal wall to deaden my prostate while I am awake doesn't have
me jumping for joy.  Additionally, wearing a catheter for 2 weeks seems
longer that anyone who has posted on this group.  I wonder if I should get a
second opinion.  I would like to know if anyone in this area is doing PVP
and am I or am I not an appropriate candidate.  The Charlotte area has a
number of excellent clinics and hospitals so I would think that someone is
doing PVP here.  I just want the best procedure for my situation and I want
to make sure that my uro is providing the best treatment.

So there it is.  Any suggestions or observations will be appreciated.  I am
very grateful that this group is here and I wish all of you well in your
treatments and recovery.
redbeard - 01 Dec 2004 18:06 GMT
No matter what your uro suggests, you should get a second opinion
since this is prior to surgery. You said that the uro was not yet
decided on the procedure but that some type of surgery is necessary.

I would suggest that you try a uro on the staff of a teaching
hospital- in other words a hospital with a medical school attached.
You will get up to date information here. I did this a few tears ago
and had laser surgery rather than the open surgery that my uro had
suggested.

Good luck

Fred
David DeBar - 02 Dec 2004 17:18 GMT
Redbeard;

In the past I thought the way you do about teaching hospitals. Experiences
in such hospitals have made me reallize that sword can cut two ways.  The
people in academia can have very shallow experience and very deep arrogants.
Also you are in danger of having the class dunce with hardly any experience
operating on you.  Don't assme the guy standing behind him is much better
then he is.

Two years ago I was in such a hospital and they wanted to change my PVP to
an open prostectomy!  I got the hell off the operating table and away from
that hospital.  I found another doctor in private practice who did a PVP on
me.  I now have a good stream, empty completely, sleep eight hours straight,
and do not have retro.

P.S.  I promised the first doctor that I would never again mention his name
or the name of the hospital on the Internet.  In return, he agreed to stop
sending me bills for an operation that was never done.  Their billing
department was just as bad as the surgical team.

Dave

> No matter what your uro suggests, you should get a second opinion
> since this is prior to surgery. You said that the uro was not yet
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>
> Fred
Philip Magallanes - 02 Dec 2004 05:43 GMT
Two weeks does seem like a very long time to wear a catheter.  I had one for
two days and I had a TURP.

Wishing you good health,

Phil

> I've been reading this group for several months and now I must avail
> myself
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> very grateful that this group is here and I wish all of you well in your
> treatments and recovery.
chockman - 02 Dec 2004 17:06 GMT
> I've been reading this group for several months and now I must avail myself
> of your accumulated wisdom.
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> very grateful that this group is here and I wish all of you well in your
> treatments and recovery.

Hi Lloyd:

I can't speak to the TUNA issue, but can speak to the TUMT issue.  I am
61 who had a Prostatron 2.5 TUMT July 2.  Was given 2 mg of Ativan 1 hr
prior to the procedure done in the URO's office.  Can't say that I was
totally relaxed during the procedure which included a flexible
cystoscopy just before the procedure began.  The main discomfort was the
feeling of the need to urinate during the 30 minute procedure.  The
cooling mechanism did its job well and in fact my penis felt cold during
the procedure.  Knowing what I know now, I would not hesitate having the
procedure done without general anesthesia.  I also had a TRUS and that
was not anything to be concerned about.  In my case, I was sent home
without a catheter in place, but was given supplies and instructions how
to self catherize if necessary.  I had to self catherize x2 the first 48
hours and then just before bedtime the next 6 days because of the
feeling of needing to urinate but unable to empty before bedtime.  Also
have been on Uroxatral since end of May.  Do no have any side effects
from it or the TUMT so far.  Want to get off it after a flow test in
January.  Be happy to answer any questions.  chockman@canby.com
Lubro - 03 Dec 2004 02:56 GMT
Lloyd,

I live in Charlotte, and I just recently began seeing Dr Sowden, a uro
in Monroe.  I chose him because he does the PVP procedure.  He's an
older guy, and he has treated me with prostate massage, which helped
me with prostititus.  He told me he was the first in the area to do
PVP.  I don't really know how many operations he has performed , and I
have only seen him twice, but you may want to look into it.....

Lou

> I've been reading this group for several months and now I must avail myself
> of your accumulated wisdom.
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> very grateful that this group is here and I wish all of you well in your
> treatments and recovery.
Lloyd - 03 Dec 2004 21:06 GMT
Thanks for all the input.  I will probably go ahead and keep my ultrasound
appointment so I can learn about the size and areas of enlargement.  I think
I will proceed with another opinion.  I will also talk further with my uro
about why no PVP and what possible complications to expect.  I'll keep the
group informed.

Thanks again and good luck to all.
 
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