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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Prostate BPH / September 2004

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Relief via PVP too brief!

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John G. - 08 Sep 2004 20:21 GMT
I had PVP in mid-June. When I finally had the catheter removed (3 weeks)
I had enormous improvements. Flow rates like a hose, ability to empty
the bladder, ability to sleep through the night, ability to put off
going to the bathroom rather than having to drop everything and get up
and run and... no retro!

That lasted a bit more then 2 weeks. Now I am back just about where I
was before having PVP. Urgency, peeing a dribble at a time and not being
able to empty the bladder, having to get up every two hours every night
and my retro is back.

So, I guess I will have to get back on Flomax.

Has anyone had this kind of temporary relief only to have it suddenly
disappear?

jg
- 08 Sep 2004 19:15 GMT
had pvp done feb 2003.  no problems since.  can go on trips for 5 or more
hrs before urinating.  don't get up at night.  what does your uro say?
maybe u should make another contact.

> I had PVP in mid-June. When I finally had the catheter removed (3 weeks)
> I had enormous improvements. Flow rates like a hose, ability to empty
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> jg
David DeBar - 08 Sep 2004 21:28 GMT
> I had PVP in mid-June. When I finally had the catheter removed (3 weeks)
> I had enormous improvements. Flow rates like a hose, ability to empty
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> jg

It's been a little over a year since I had my PVP.  Like you I experienced
the wonderful hose like relief, and like you I have noticed that the stream
has since slowed down quite a bit.  I can still sleep thru the night and
hold it when I need to.  I have noticed that coffee makes a big difference
with me.  If I have a couple cups of coffee I need to strain to pee.  So I
don't drink coffee.  The retro is slowly inching back towards normal.  I'm
told that recovery from retro can take three years.

Dave
george - 09 Sep 2004 16:15 GMT
John, you may have a blood clot up there in the pipe line.  This is not
uncommon.  These clot's usually pass but at times need help.  Better go see
your uro quick.

george
> I had PVP in mid-June. When I finally had the catheter removed (3 weeks)
> I had enormous improvements. Flow rates like a hose, ability to empty
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>
> jg
Spread deMocracy - 18 Sep 2004 12:38 GMT
John if your uro rules out the blood clot, as suggested by the other post--  
a smart idea to check that out-- ask him/her about your bloodwork and if
your prostate simply is continuing to expand/grow because he/she has not
addresse the root cause?   Prostates do not necessarily stop growing after
the operation since the operation simply cuts back the obstructive growth
but doesn't address the cause.  If yours is growing quickly you need to find
out what's driving the growth--and it is not necessarily cancer, either, so,
don't panic.    Also, check out my reply post to LUBRO, in answer to "Re:
seeking informationg and help"  of 9/16.

I've made the point before that it is nuts to have the operation--any
operation--without understanding the cause and whether or not the prostate
will keep growing after the operation.  Bloodwork is absolutely necessary,
in my non-medical opinion.  Other things have to be taken into consideration
that drive up estrogens in men which in turn causes rebound effects from the
testosterone,such as: abdominal fat, any alcohol no matter how little,
coffee, hot spices,  meats--especially avoid hormone infested meats--,
pesticides.  If your estradiols are low, but your DHT is high while other
sex hormones are normal, then there might be a thyroid, pituitary, or other
problem that an endocrinologist may be best to diagnose and medicate to stop
the prostate growth and maybe even reverse it...at least that is my hope.
Have you pestered your uro for a complete and frank discussion about your
hormones from your blood tests?  If not, you might want to do so.   But
expect that your uro may be way out of his league when you do ask.   So, you
might need to get to an endocrinologist if your bloodwork shows that your
DHTs are too high.  Best of luck!!

> John, you may have a blood clot up there in the pipe line.  This is not
> uncommon.  These clot's usually pass but at times need help.  Better go
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>> I had PVP in mid-June. Now I am back just about where I was before having
>> PVP. ... I guess I will have to get back on Flomax.
 
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