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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Prostate BPH / July 2004PVP Today
Arrived at hospital at 5:45 for 7:30 procedure. Actually delivered to Dr. Te's operating room at 9:00AM. I think I was in recovery stage 1 about 11:00 and stage 2 at 11:45am. They did the voiding test at 1:45 - removed catheter and told me to urinate in a plastic urinal when I felt ready. I felt ready within 15 minutes but was only able to produce a few very bloody drops. I felt I was blocked up because there was fierce urgency but the nurse and later the urological intern said it was too soon after catheter removal - bladder was still irritated and I hadn't consumed enough liquid. I begged to differ pointing out the 3 liter IV's already consumed. They brought some escalatingly senior urologists in and they finally agreed to recatheterize me and quickly drained 400ml. They then notified Dr. Te who thought the anesthesia was the cause of the blockage and ordered another voiding test at 6pm. This time I was able to slowly urinate a thin red stream and progressively clearer and larger volumes. At 7pm Dr. Te told them to release me. I'm home now with pretty severe urgency at low volumes of output. I quickly took 2 Flomax and that has helped. I was hoping they would give me a script for URISED to manage the urgency but the urologists at the hospital didn't want to do that - perhaps I didn't explain correctly why I wanted it.. So day 1 was a little more challenging than I had hoped for but I realize it is early in the game and I'll look forward to better days. Jim W. > Arrived at hospital at 5:45 for 7:30 procedure. I had a microwave and know many persons who had microwaves, none had problems. Why go for pvp which is surgery when you can go microwave?. My Uro feels the same as I do. What am I missing? I had ILC 3.5 years ago and had 8 bad days compared to 1 not too terrible day with PVP [ILC is similar to microwave in that the shrinkage of the prostate is due to heat damage]. The ILC didn't help me very much while PVP offers the benefits of TURP without the trauma. I didn't mean to be so negative last night when I posted - it was more a comment on some of the hospital staff not listening to the patient. Jim > > Arrived at hospital at 5:45 for 7:30 procedure. > I had a microwave and know many persons who had microwaves, none had > problems. Why go for pvp which is surgery when you can go microwave?. My Uro > feels the same as I do. What am I missing? > I had ILC 3.5 years ago and had 8 bad days compared to 1 not too terrible > day with PVP [ILC is similar to microwave in that the shrinkage of the > prostate is due to heat damage]. The ILC didn't help me very much while PVP > offers the benefits of TURP without the trauma. I didn't mean to be so > negative last night when I posted - it was more a comment on some of the > hospital staff not listening to the patient. Jim ILC is that the Indigo Laser? My uro offered me Indigo or PVP, I have to choose. Do you know why it was not so effective? Was it due to too little tissue getting zapped? (That's my concern.) I don't want PVP if Indigo works, but I don't want the extra step of Indigo if I am going to need PVP anyway. Dr. Te said that it was because ILC doesn't get prostate tissue protruding into the bladder. I consider PVP less invasive and less traumatic than ILC [ILC always requires a catheter for a few days, PVP a day or less] so I don't see any reason for not going right to the PVP if it is available to you. Jim W. > > I had ILC 3.5 years ago and had 8 bad days compared to 1 not too terrible > > day with PVP [ILC is similar to microwave in that the shrinkage of the [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > getting zapped? (That's my concern.) I don't want PVP if Indigo works, but I > don't want the extra step of Indigo if I am going to need PVP anyway. > Dr. Te said that it was because ILC doesn't get prostate tissue protruding > into the bladder. I consider PVP less invasive and less traumatic than ILC > [ILC always requires a catheter for a few days, PVP a day or less] so I > don't see any reason for not going right to the PVP if it is available to > you. Jim W. My uro is saying the opposite, ILC is just heat turning prostate tissue to mush, no bleeding, just swelling (hense the need for a catheter.) PVP is more violent and destroys the urethra. > > > I had ILC 3.5 years ago and had 8 bad days compared to 1 not too > terrible [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > I > > don't want the extra step of Indigo if I am going to need PVP anyway. ILC is at the wrong wavelength to vaporize prostate tissue. Instead it burns it resulting in a lot more truma to the prostate. PVP is at the exact wavelength that is completely absorbed by hemogolin in the prostate cells, so they literally vaporize from within. No burning, little trauma to the adjacent tissue. PVP is a much much better procedure than ILC, better results with less truama, less catherization, less swelling etc. There is no comparison. Within a few years ILC will no longer be in use. Patrick > > Dr. Te said that it was because ILC doesn't get prostate tissue protruding > > into the bladder. I consider PVP less invasive and less traumatic than [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > I > > > don't want the extra step of Indigo if I am going to need PVP anyway. >ILC is at the wrong wavelength to vaporize prostate tissue. Instead it >burns it resulting in a lot more truma to the prostate. > >PVP is at the exact wavelength that is completely absorbed by hemogolin in >the prostate cells, so they literally vaporize from within. No burning, >little trauma to the adjacent tissue. Bullshit baffles Brains >PVP is a much much better procedure than ILC, better results with less >truama, less catherization, less swelling etc. > >There is no comparison. Within a few years ILC will no longer be in use. Typical utterances from a typical shill SNIP Do yourself a good turn - - ignore the shills and 'fruitcakes' on this NG - consult a qulaified and experienced urologist A know nothing says nothing again. Xes@nospam.com continues to pop in, add nothing to the discussion. Just continues to be a useless idiot. > >ILC is at the wrong wavelength to vaporize prostate tissue. Instead it > >burns it resulting in a lot more truma to the prostate. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Do yourself a good turn - - ignore the shills and 'fruitcakes' on > this NG - consult a qulaified and experienced urologist > > Arrived at hospital at 5:45 for 7:30 procedure. > I had a microwave and know many persons who had microwaves, none had > problems. Why go for pvp which is surgery when you can go microwave?. My Uro > feels the same as I do. What am I missing? My urologist told me that microwave was not appropriate for men who have an enlarged median lobe which protrudes into the bladder. PVP, however, was appropriate and was successful. Jim, I had similar experience the first few days after and was able to get relief with ibuprofen. My URO specifically told me to take anti-inflammatories for a few days. Lewis. > Arrived at hospital at 5:45 for 7:30 procedure. Actually delivered to Dr. > Te's operating room at 9:00AM. I think I was in recovery stage 1 about > 11:00 and stage 2 at 11:45am. > > They did the voiding test at 1:45 - removed catheter and told me to urinate > in a plastic urinal when I felt ready. I felt ready within 15 minutes but > was only able to produce a few very bloody drops. I felt I was blocked up > because there was fierce urgency but the nurse and later the urological > intern > said it was too soon after catheter removal - bladder was still irritated > and I hadn't consumed enough liquid. I begged to differ pointing out the 3 > liter IV's already consumed. They brought some escalatingly senior > urologists in and they finally agreed to recatheterize me and quickly > drained 400ml. > > They then notified Dr. Te who thought the anesthesia was the cause of the > blockage and ordered another voiding test at 6pm. This time I was able to > slowly urinate a thin red stream and progressively clearer and larger > volumes. At 7pm Dr. Te told them to release me. > > I'm home now with pretty severe urgency at low volumes of output. I quickly > took 2 Flomax and that has helped. I was hoping they would give me a script > for URISED to manage the urgency but the urologists at the hospital didn't > want to do that - perhaps I didn't explain correctly why I wanted it.. > > So day 1 was a little more challenging than I had hoped for but I realize it > is early in the game and I'll look forward to better days. > > Jim W. Thanks for the tip Lewis. I actually feel great now at PVP+2.5. The flow rate is nearly twice pre-op and I am beginning to trust that I can wait longer to pee. I'm starting to have real confidence that this is going to work. Eagerly awaiting the retro trial ;-) Jim W. > Jim, > [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > > > > Jim W. |
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