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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Prostate BPH / May 2004Greenlight laser
Has anyone had the Greenlight procedure for bhp? Comments, please. Yes, It works.......but don't necessarily expect the one or two week recovery. It can take months. Good Luck, Marcus > Has anyone had the Greenlight procedure for bhp? Comments, please. and you might get an (unexpected) permanent side effect: one of the forms of retrograde ejaculation - where there's no more semen - for me not ejaculated or even in the bladder. Ask your uro about the risks. Ron > From: "Sasha Gottfried" <sashago@comcast.net> > Newsgroups: sci.med.prostate.bph [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >> Has anyone had the Greenlight procedure for bhp? Comments, please. I recently called my uro and told him that 6 months post PVP I only ejaculate a few drops. Like you my urine is clear. I don't know where it goes. He explained that I have some degree of retro and that it takes up to three years after PVP to archive normal ejaculation. See my earlier post about what a woman really likes to see come out of a penis. It still feels the same, it's not a big deal. Dave > and you might get an (unexpected) permanent side effect: one of the forms of > retrograde ejaculation - where there's no more semen - for me not ejaculated [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > > >> Has anyone had the Greenlight procedure for bhp? Comments, please. Dave, My surgeon said that if you get retro from the PVP surgery (I'm past the sixth month mark), it's a 99% chance that it's going to be permanent. I'm also wondering if at the time of "orgasm" the sperm even leaves the testes. I don't know what the health risks are from not being able to release & renew the sperm cells (and the prostate fluid). There have been studies showing that regular masturbation lowers the risk of prostate cancer. Do the sperm cells stagnate, causing future problems? I'm not sure if anyone knows the long term risks from the effects of the Greenlight Laser. Ron > From: "David DeBar" <porkdebarparts@comcast.net> > Newsgroups: sci.med.prostate.bph [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] >>> >>>> Has anyone had the Greenlight procedure for bhp? Comments, please. Ron Ya, I heard that six month number before. But, I wrote my doctor and told him that a few months after my PVP, for a while I had a small amount of ejaculation but then dropped back to just a few drops. Here is his answer to me: Dear Davis: You must have some degree of retrograde ejaculation, Maintaining the normal ejaculation depends on the function the muscule tissue around the bladder neck. nothing to do with the size of the prostate, If you had some antegrade ejaculation after PVP, you should expect to improve , from the original research from Dr Malak in Mayo Clinic, It takes 3 years to resume normal ejaculation .Did you take any medication causing retrograde ejaculation such blood pressure pill? The above answer is from Dr. Lin (a very respected doctor on this news group). Maybe my case is a little different because it comes and goes. Dave Dave, I stopped taking Avodart on Feb 9, so it's unlikely that the medication is the cause (before the op -under the influence of Avodart, ejaculations were fine). Since my second PVP in mid-Dec.'04, there has been zero ejaculate from the penis, and none found in the urine. There might have been an ejaculatory sphincter type mechanism destroyed during the PVP and or the sperm might be blocked at some point in the process or various other factors can be involved. My surgeon said he doesn't know. In your case, the fact that the mechanism worked after your surgery points to a better prognosis of your condition. Ron > From: "David DeBar" <porkdebarparts@comcast.net> > Newsgroups: sci.med.prostate.bph [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Dave Ron, If I remember right, some men have the semen tubes tied or cut with no ill effects. I have no idea if retrograde ejaculation has any detrimental effects, but I know that untreated BPH is an ever worsening misery and will lead to acute retention. Compared to this, latent future problems due to PVP are a minor concern. At this time, it is probably not even known if Green Laser PVP has any, better or worse long-term effects than traditional TURP. I had PVP over a year ago and my quality of life improved dramatically. I'm enjoying this change for the better and I'm not going to worry about an unknown future problem. Fred Henzi > Dave, > My surgeon said that if you get retro from the PVP surgery (I'm past the [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > the long term risks from the effects of the Greenlight Laser. > Ron Fred, You make a good point. Fear of the future is pointless. But I'm still having trouble accepting the rerograde condition - which I didn't expect; wanting to have the choice to reproduce etc. Ron > From: "Frederic E Henzi" <f-henzi@comcast.net> > Organization: Comcast Online [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] >> the long term risks from the effects of the Greenlight Laser. >> Ron |
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