Post PVP plus 3 mos and sleeping

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Allen Fleming - 17 Jun 2004 19:43 GMT

Gentlemen:

We all share the same problems. Any info learned by one could be
helpful to others. Here is what I would like to share.
I had a PVP on March 18, 2004. It was a success. I no longer retain
500 cc plus after taking a pee. It is now down to 100 cc or less.
However, I was disappointed because I still had to pee 3-5 times each
night. It seems that I awaken almost the instant new urine hits my
bladder. Needless to say....I didn't get much sleep. So I was very
discouraged. I was still walking around in a fog.
However, new discovery....by taking a detrol pill at bedtime....I get
up fewer times (2 last night). This gave me more sleep time. Perhaps
I'm on to something. I also take two tylenol pm pills. I got a good
night's sleep last night.

Al

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Jim W. - 17 Jun 2004 21:07 GMT

Al, how about daytime? Was there an improvement in urgency (i.e. bladder
capacity before urgency starts)? Thanks, Jim W.

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Allen Fleming - 20 Jun 2004 16:25 GMT

Jim:

The urgency that I feel in the daytime varies. There are still times
when out of the blue...I have to go and go now. Other times it isn't
so bad. I do feel that I can empty my bladder better. I can now
really push and push and get more each time. I couldn't do it before
the PVP. I am still waiting for a good night's sleep. The tylenol pm
seems to help the most.

Al

> Al, how about daytime? Was there an improvement in urgency (i.e. bladder
> capacity before urgency starts)? Thanks, Jim W.
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nambucca - 23 Jun 2004 09:56 GMT

> Al, how about daytime? Was there an improvement in urgency (i.e. bladder
> capacity before urgency starts)? Thanks, Jim W.
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> The post PVP problems are not caused by PVP itself they are a question of

how badly the bladder was damaged /affected in all the pre PVP months/ years

It takes time to reducate the bladder and for some people a determination
that they rule their body now instead of the prostate ruling it

for EG .......I too continued to wake several times a night and
automatically got up to pee ........after several weeks of this i simply
decided one night to stay in bed and not get up .........2 nights of this
and my body got the message that no longer did i need to wake during the
night to relieve what had previously been a pressure call

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Bill Hale - 24 Jun 2004 20:18 GMT

> > Al, how about daytime? Was there an improvement in urgency (i.e. bladder
> > capacity before urgency starts)? Thanks, Jim W.

I'm almost 2 months post PVP. Prior, I couldn't sleep well at all without
Flomax. Up several times-- bad for a person with somewhat hosed sleep
to begin with. The flomax was awful.

The PVP surely fixed that. Frequently I sleep all night long.
What's not working so well is daytime. After the first month, this
problem is actually getting worse. Every couple of hours, I have
to go! It's worst when I stand after sitting. And even though not
much is discharged, there's no ignoring it.

One hopes this gets better. Bladder re-training is going slowly.

Otherwise, I'm quite happy. Bill Hale Brownrigg, MD Pueblo Colo > 100 pvp

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