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Re: Enlarge Prostate (BPH)

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Lennox O. McKoy - 29 Mar 2004 11:53 GMT
Hi There,

My name is Lenny, I have an enlarge prostate(BPH) and I need some help in
making a decision if I should have surgery for enlarge prostate (BPH) or to
continued with my meds. (I am presently taking Flomax and Avodart). I am
hoping that someone in this newsgroup can help point me in the right
direction because I am a bit confused as to what to do. My doctor is pushing
this surgery called (TUNA)
Transurethral needle ablation.

What are the pros or cons about this procedure?

How will it affect my erection after the surgery?

I thank you all inadvance for your help.

Lenny.
Chris Bennett - 29 Mar 2004 17:58 GMT
You may also want to consider TUMT which is a microwave treatment.

I had one done about 3 months ago with good results and no side
affects. The worst part is the catheder that you need in for about 1
week after the procedure. The procedure took about 2 hours with setup
and 1 hour of actual treatment.

Chris

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Burr - 29 Mar 2004 18:11 GMT
You might want to read this site first.
http://www.fda.gov/cdrh/safety/bph.html

Burr

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Chris Bennett - 29 Mar 2004 20:39 GMT
Yes, I read that before my procedure.

However, TURP and other surgical solutions have a measurable "Death"
rate from the procedure. It may be small but is higher than the
problem described.

No medical procedure is 100% safe. When I had my TUMT, the nurse was
always in the room monitoring the equipment. In addition, the surgeon
came in every 5 minutes to check my status and told me to let them
know immediately if there was any pain. I think that would have
prevented most of the 16 thermal injuries that occurred.

The only pain I felt during the procedure was when the bladder went
into spasm. The heat was uncomfortable but not painful.

I also had bladder spasms for about 3 days caused by the catheter -
usually when I emptied the bag. They got milder and less frequent as
time went on. The week on the catheter was worse than the procedure
itself - at least for me.

Just make sure you pick a good surgeon. That's the secret to good
results.

Chris


>You might want to read this site first.
>http://www.fda.gov/cdrh/safety/bph.html
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Tony - 30 Mar 2004 07:35 GMT
> Yes, I read that before my procedure.
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How do you determine if your surgeon is any good?
Chris Bennett - 31 Mar 2004 00:59 GMT
>> Yes, I read that before my procedure.
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>How do you determine if your surgeon is any good?

- References from friends
- References from your doctor
- Talk to more than one Urologyst/Surgeon if you can
- Ask people here
- Look up web sites about BHP, TURP, TUNA, TUMT, etc and educate
yourself about what questions to ask your surgeon. If you are not
happy with the answers you get, try someone else.

In my case, my doctor recommended the surgeon I used. He is well known
in the Toronto area (Canada) and answered all questions to my
satisfaction. He also has been doing TURP and TUMT for several years
and gave me the advantages and disadvantages of each option.

I selected TUMT because it seemed to have the least number of possible
side affects while giving decent relief of symptoms. I have had no
side affects from the procedure and my quality of life is back to
normal. (I now sleep through the night and empty about 450 to 525 cc
of urine  in the morning).

I have found that PVP is now available in the Toronto area but still
appears to be new. If I need another procedure in the future, then I
will re-evaluate all my options.

Chris
Hal K - 30 Jun 2005 04:44 GMT
It has been a while since your last TUMT post. Are you still satisfied.??

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tiolle12 - 30 Mar 2004 04:46 GMT
> You may also want to consider TUMT which is a microwave treatment.
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I had a pvp greenlight laser 2 weeks ago and am extremely happy with
the results.I only had the catheder in for 24 hours and my flow was
excellent right afterwards[it had been extremely hard for me to
urinate before]My urologist had reccomended Tuna but after researching
it I didn't want that.My urologist didn't do pvp and I had to travel
350 miles to Rochester Ny to have it done[well worth it].The worst
part of the whole procedure was the 24 hours wearing the catheder in
the hospital.I was able to go back to everything I do next day except
for strenuous excercise[I am ajogger and it has been 2 weeks and I
still haven't jogged].I am traveling back to the doctor this week for
a followup and hoping he will say it is ok to resume my exercise
routine.But my experience convinced me pvp was the right choice and
would encourage others to do it.
     Allaneig
David - 29 Mar 2004 18:20 GMT
Hi.
   Before you decide to go for an operation. Why not try to reduce your
prostate back to normal and have all functions otherwise return to normal as
well? ;-)
Check out http://www.esp-electro.com

The inventor suffered from the same condition and using his gizmo caused his
prostate to shrink back to normal and in fact heal to the point where it
functions properly and all other functions including urination and
ejaculation have returned to normal as well.

Do yourself a favor and check it out.

David             ESP Electro USA

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nambucca - 31 Mar 2004 20:33 GMT
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Do not under any account succumb to TUNA
The side effects of Flomax etc can be awesome ........they include Hiatus
Hernia months after you have stopped taking the drug

Go for PVP you wont regret it and you will realise just how bad things have
got without you realising
Dave C - 05 Jul 2005 23:58 GMT
Nambucca,  I have heard of several side effects from Flomax, including
"floppy iris syndrome" that can last a year after taking the drug. But I have
not heard of hiatus hernia being a side effect. Can you provide a medical
reference that descibes this?

Thanks,
Dave

>The side effects of Flomax etc can be awesome ........they include Hiatus
>Hernia months after you have stopped taking the drug
nambucca - 31 Mar 2004 20:35 GMT
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Have PVP its by far the best option
 
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