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PVP in Scotland

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Derry Argue - 03 Jan 2004 23:07 GMT
I think I read on this group that PVP is available at Dundee and
Edinburgh, UK. I'm afraid that is not so. There is confusion up
here between PVP and the other laser procedures.

The latter are available (and not recommended by the group) but
the nearest PVP will be Newcastle. I understand Newcastle is not
yet up and running. Got this information direct from sales at
Laserscope in the last couple of days.

Derry
Derek F - 04 Jan 2004 00:54 GMT
> I think I read on this group that PVP is available at Dundee and
> Edinburgh, UK. I'm afraid that is not so. There is confusion up
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>
> Derry
When I had the appointment with the urologist in Edinburgh he did not seem
to know what I was talking about when I first mentioned PVP Laserscope. He
then said that the only way to deal with BPH was by a TURP whether it was
the traditional way or by using a laser. We then seemed to be on the same
wavelength :-) and he said that It was being done in Dundee and that he
could refer me there if they would accept me. When I produced the Laserscope
CD he knew what it was and he said that he had viewed it (I left the disk
with him to pass on to any of his colleagues who needed convincing) Since
writing to him on December 7th to confirm that I wanted to be referred to
Dundee I have had no response.
The only other laser operation that I have heard of in the UK is the Gyrus
KPVP version.
http://www.everestmedical.com/#
Derek.
Derry Argue - 04 Jan 2004 04:53 GMT
>> I think I read on this group that PVP is available at
>> Dundee and Edinburgh, UK. I'm afraid that is not so. There
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> http://www.everestmedical.com/#
> Derek.

That sounds like par for the course though you are lucky to have
found a urologist north of the border who has even looked at the
Laserscope information and CD!

I have data sheets on KTP/532 laser (High-Power Potassium-
titanyl-phosphate) and Nd:YAG laser and, of course, PVP, from
Laserscope. But I must confess I find the whole scenario
re:laser surgery very confusing and tend to concern myself about
the technical differences on a "need to know" basis! Patrick is
your man for that stuff.

Do make sure you get the genuine PVP. My uro would have been
delighted to have referred me to either Dundee or Edinburgh but
at that time Muir was the only one doing PVP's in the UK so
there was no possibility of confusion.

Derry
TomP - 04 Jan 2004 22:50 GMT
If it was Trevor Thompson "with a p as in urology", I left him a copy of the
Laserscope CD about a year ago. I have since got a urologist in Dumfries to
refer me to Mr Nawrocki at Haywards Heath where I am scheduled to have the
procedure this Thursday, 08/01/04.

Tom

> > I think I read on this group that PVP is available at Dundee and
> > Edinburgh, UK. I'm afraid that is not so. There is confusion up
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> http://www.everestmedical.com/#
> Derek.
Derry Argue - 04 Jan 2004 23:06 GMT
> If it was Trevor Thompson "with a p as in urology", I left
> him a copy of the Laserscope CD about a year ago. I have
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>
> Tom

Good luck with the op, Tom. Expect to be reading of your success
here shortly.

Derry
Gary Alexander - 11 Jan 2004 22:21 GMT
> I think I read on this group that PVP is available at Dundee and
> Edinburgh, UK. I'm afraid that is not so. There is confusion up
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Derry
From what I can gather there are two places to have a PVP in the UK,
from Muir at Kings College and in from Tim Larner and colleagues at
Nuffield Hospital Haywards Heath. (The latter is cheaper if you go
privately.) I'm now scheduled to have the op on 24th Feb. and so am
reading the post-PVP messages on this group very carefully!

Regards,
Gary
Derry Argue - 12 Jan 2004 08:50 GMT
>> I think I read on this group that PVP is available at
>> Dundee and Edinburgh, UK. I'm afraid that is not so. There
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> Regards,
> Gary

Gary,

Laserscope tell me that the following hospitals in the UK have
purchased machines:

King's College Hospital
Haywards Heath
Derriford
Nuffield Haywards Heath
Wellington London
Lister London
Freeman Newcastle

That is the list as stated to me with the comment that "At the
year end there will be seven sites in the UK with access to the
system". The names above add up to seven but it seems to me
there may be some duplication. They "expect to add another 10
sites within 4/5 months" -- but that is a sales projection.

Derry
Derek F - 12 Jan 2004 10:09 GMT
> >> I think I read on this group that PVP is available at
> >> Dundee and Edinburgh, UK. I'm afraid that is not so. There
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>
> Derry

The Derriford is a NHS hospital in Plymouth.
The Lister and Wellington are private London hospitals. Gordon Muir is the
consultant at the Lister as well as Kings College.
Derek.
Derek F - 13 Jan 2004 01:06 GMT
> > I think I read on this group that PVP is available at Dundee and
> > Edinburgh, UK. I'm afraid that is not so. There is confusion up
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> Regards,
> Gary
What tests did they do at your initial appointment?
Derek.
Gary Alexander - 13 Jan 2004 14:19 GMT
"Derek F" <lordpilrig@NOX.btinternet.com> wrote in message news:
> What tests did they do at your initial appointment?
> Derek.
Mr. Larner did a flow rate test, then ultrasound to determine how
much residual urine was in my bladder, then an up-the-bum examination.
Then I went for a PSA test as he was worried that if my PSA was too
high and I had cancer too it wouldn't be sensible to do a PVP first
and a radical prostatectomy later! I'm sure I don't have cancer, but
will face that prospect later.

Since then I've had some more blood tests at my GP surgery which I
think are to make sure I won't react badly to the anaesthetic.

Gary
 
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