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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Prostate BPH / January 2004

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Arthur - 03 Jan 2004 16:11 GMT
About 6 weeks ago I learned from this newsgroup about the danger of
lower backpain from using Sinex Decongestant (for those of us with BPH).
For years I had been using the nose spray containing Phenylephrine
Hydrochloride (0.5%) and for years I had been having on-and-off-again
lower back pain, never dreaming of the relationship.

I got rid of the Sinex and the effects were immediate!.....no back pain.
Patiently I've waited till now to see if it were really true. As far as
I can see, the lower backpain problem has been "solved".

What I now use as a decongestant is an inexpensive Saline Nasal Spray.
Perhaps it is not as effective as Sinex...a price I will gladly pay.

I hope that the years of Sinex use was merely responsible for backpain
and did not cause any prostate damage.  Perhaps someone could confirm
this for me?!.

In any event I want to thank sci.med.prostate.bph for information worth
its weight in gold (as they used to say).

Arthur

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Arthur - 05 Jan 2004 02:55 GMT
...would appreciate any comment on my statement:

> I hope that the years of Sinex use was merely responsible for backpain
> and did not cause any prostate damage.  Perhaps someone could confirm
> this for me?!.
Warren Ward - 07 Jan 2004 07:57 GMT
Cannot comment on Phenylephrine, Arthur, but there is a direct
connection between the health of the nose mucus and the health of the
prostate. They both rely on active reabsorption ducts which can be in
a state of adverse habituation, responding to an apparent (not real)
sodium deficiency in the body. If they are, it is likely that you have
hypertension also.

See more at
http://www.innatehealth.com/prostate.htm
http://www.innatehealth.com/rhinitis.htm
http://www.innatehealth.com/hypertension.htm

Best wishes

Warren

> ...would appreciate any comment on my statement:
>
> > I hope that the years of Sinex use was merely responsible for backpain
> > and did not cause any prostate damage.  Perhaps someone could confirm
> > this for me?!.
Richard - 07 Jan 2004 12:07 GMT
> ...there is a direct
> connection between the health of the nose mucus and the health of the
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> Warren

Hmm - maybe. I'm always a bit suspicious of anything that will
supposedly cure so many diseases. Interesting, though; I do have mild
hypertension and I've had rhinitis about as long as I can remember
(trigger never established). So I'll keep an open mind on this one.

As a matter of interest, how many people monitoring this group have
hypertension and/or rhinitis? Let's see if we can detect any kind of
pattern.

Richard Slessor
Arthur - 08 Jan 2004 00:11 GMT
Richard, thanks for your reply and Warren Ward's reply. But I have to
smile because I never said I had rhinitis, and I do not have
hypertension (but I do have BPH).

I occasionally (sometime frequently) have a stuffy nose and that is why
I used Vicks Sinex nose spray over the years.  (If I do have rhinitis,
it must be a very mild case.)  My back pain disappeared when I stopped
using Sinex.  All I want to know is whether the use of Phenylephrine
might have caused permanent damage to the prostate.

Arthur
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Warren Ward - 08 Jan 2004 03:20 GMT
Richard,

Well one treatment may cure a single defect having a variety of
adverse consequences. The reabsorptive exocrine ducts that carry mucus
to the epithelial surfaces of the airways, are the same type of ducts
that carry secretions from the prostate to the urethra. We know this
from cystic fibrosis research. If ducts can be prevented from over
conserving sodium (in cystic fibrosis it is the opposite fault - not
conserving sodium) then the underlying inflammation that causes both
rhinitis and prostate enlargement may be prevented.

Glad you are keeping an open mind for connections between apparently
quite different diseases.

Best wishes,

Warren

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> Richard Slessor
admin - 09 Jan 2004 09:45 GMT
Greetings,

> I do have mild
> hypertension and I've had rhinitis about as long as I can remember
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> hypertension and/or rhinitis? Let's see if we can detect any kind of
> pattern.

I have perennial rhinitis and have done so for years, I also had many
problems with sinus blockage and infections, I had a turboplasty and
trimming of the turbinates in the 80's this helped the stuffiness
enormously, but I still have a stuffy nose most times especially when I am
out in traffic of in the area of any polluting fumes etc, like candles,
fires, I suffer with multiple chemical sensitivity (MCS) as well as others.
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Derek F - 09 Jan 2004 10:11 GMT
> Greetings,
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> out in traffic of in the area of any polluting fumes etc, like candles,
> fires, I suffer with multiple chemical sensitivity (MCS) as well as others.
Rhinitis is one of the side effects of Flomax.
Derek.
admin - 09 Jan 2004 18:52 GMT
Greetings,

> Rhinitis is one of the side effects of Flomax.

I have had perennial rhinitis for many years due to allergy/MCS, I have
never taken Flomax and only been taking BPH drugs (Hytrin) and more recently
Avodart, for about 5 years.
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Derek F - 10 Jan 2004 00:35 GMT
> Greetings,
>
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> never taken Flomax and only been taking BPH drugs (Hytrin) and more recently
> Avodart, for about 5 years.
It applies to some Hytrin users as well.
http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic/teraz_ad.htm
Derek.
Jack Gachesa - 09 Jan 2004 18:07 GMT
Richard, I have had both rhinitis and hypertension AND BPH for over 20 years.
I had PVP done over a year ago, and am free of all symptoms except some loss
of bladder capacity, but VERY VERY happy with results. Also have essentially
solved the rhinitis through use of MSM spray. Very taken aback by the statement
by Warren. Never heard of the link until now.   Jack G.

> > ...there is a direct
> > connection between the health of the nose mucus and the health of the
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> Richard Slessor
Uncle - 09 Jan 2004 18:39 GMT
Richard, I also have had rhinitis since I was a kid. Hypertension
since the 1960's. BPH symptoms started 19 years ago. Had my PVP about
3 weeks ago and peeing well. Haven't tried anything for the rhinitis
yet, although I am breathing better since getting off Cardura.

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Uncle

>As a matter of interest, how many people monitoring this group have
>hypertension and/or rhinitis? Let's see if we can detect any kind of
>pattern.
>
>Richard Slessor
 
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