I had a PSA about 9 in 1993 and my urologist suggested a TURP. I chose to get
a second opinion, and another urologist suggested Proscar for which my first
uro gave me an Rx. After taking Proscar for awhile, my PSA was about half,
4.__.
Things seemed to be constant for a number of years until I became impotent. (A
rather harsh adjustment for me and my wife.) Then, I experienced gynecomastia
(sp), enlargement of the breasts at which time I even had to have a mammogram
to rule out cancer. [One of my male co-workers died of breast cancer a number
of years ago.]
No cancer, but I stopped taking Proscar, and my PSA steadily increased. By
the middle of this year, it was 18.73. I have had three biopsies in the
ensueing years, and all have shown negative results for cancer. (I am 75 years
old, and in good health although I am type II diabetic.)
I have suffered all of the effects of BHP.....dribble both before and after
trying to urinate, getting up at night three and four times, etc.
I have also had ultrasound exams of the prostate, and as of August of this
year, I was told by my 1st uro that it had grown to 93.+ gm. Again, he
suggested that it was time for a TURP or a microwave procedure.
Lucky for me that I have been reading posts by many of you including Patrick
and Dave. I decided not to TURP. Instead, I contacted the nearest urologist
who performs PVP's. I also had my present urologist Fax my records including
copies of my most recent ultrasound and cystoscopy. I drove 62 miles with my
wife to have an office visit with the new uro and to have pre-op tests
performed at the hospital nearby.
On Sept 5, Dr. Wen Lin performed a PVP at Flagler Hospital in St. Augustine,
FL. (I was his 111 PVP patient.) I stayed overnight with a catheter. It was
not a painful experience, only some discomfort. The color of my urine was
monitored, and after I was able to get up and urinate by myself, Dr. Lin
released me the next day.
My wife drove us home. I was told to be cautious in my activities...not to
over extend myself physically. I behaved! I cannot impress upon the new
readers here what a great improvement I have had since the PVP procedure. At
first, I had some discomfort and slight burning at the end of urinating, but
that has almost disappeared. Only occassionally do I have that feeling. My
stream is much stronger and longer resulting in a near-empty bladder. (It
reminds me of my youth...if I were in Wisc. where I grew up, I could ' write
my name in the snow '.)
I now get up only once during the night, and even not at all sometimes. This
week, I had another follow-up visit with Dr. Lin who also got a blood sample
for the PSA test. It has come down to 13.4. I feel great, but am still
concerned about the PSA. I am to have another test in 6 months.
I have not read how much reduction others have had in their PSA values, pre-
and post PVP. Any comments? Nor have I read any comments about how much
reduction resulted in the prostate mass.
With regard to costs, I am carried under the Medicare plan and by my
supplemental plan. I have received preliminary notices of billings from the
hospital, doctor(s)/anesthesiologist. After payment by Medicare and my
insurance, I have not had to pay anything. Considering how slow the wheels
turn, I may have to pay some small amount. We'll see.
Thanks to you all who have (still do) posted for the information that has
helped me to refuse a TURP.
Chris J.
Frederic E Henzi - 21 Dec 2003 06:03 GMT
Chris,
My PSA went from 4.0 to 2.33 after PVP. A significant reduction seems to be
typical. Your number is high even after PVP and you I would follow your
uro's advice and monitor frequently. Fortunately, biopsies showed no cancer
so your high PSA is likely from BPH.
I'm also a T2 and I haven't read anything about a diabetes and PSA
connection. You could post a question on (alt.support.diabetes) news group.
Diabetes may become a factor for A1c above 7. The lower the A1c, the better
the overall health becomes.
For the time being I would enjoy the good turn for the better and let the
body heal with a positive outlook.
Good luck
Fred Henzi
> No cancer, but I stopped taking Proscar, and my PSA steadily increased. By
> the middle of this year, it was 18.73. I have had three biopsies in the
> ensueing years, and all have shown negative results for cancer. (I am 75 years
> old, and in good health although I am type II diabetic.)
> I now get up only once during the night, and even not at all sometimes. This
> week, I had another follow-up visit with Dr. Lin who also got a blood sample
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> and post PVP. Any comments? Nor have I read any comments about how much
> reduction resulted in the prostate mass.